01-10-2002, 12:04 AM | #41 |
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Comic Book Guy,
I think there is a close up of just Pippin and Merry from Gandalf's point of view just after they say "Let's get another one!" and Gandalf grabs their ears and just before the scene where they are washing the dishes while Gandalf watches over them. 'Am talking of the point where Gandalf addresses them: "Ah, Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took... I might have known." |
01-10-2002, 12:11 AM | #42 |
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There is a close up of Merry and Pippin from Gandalf's perspective, it shows them covered in soot from the firework. They didn't bother to clean up before doing the dishes. Whichever one was drying didn't bother washing his hands before touching the clean dishes.
Although Gandalf did look smug seeing them to their task.
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01-10-2002, 12:26 AM | #43 |
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oh those are just scare crows?
I thought that hobbits killed any outsiders (except Gandalf) gutted them, and put them out on a pole to dry. I have a few other ideas about what they might be but...... well now that we have a 9 year old on the loose j/k I don't really have any nasty ideas (well more nasty anyhow). speaking of which...... HOW THE HECK CAN A NINE YEAR OLD SPELL BETTER THAN ME?!!?!?! like, I knaw hi wath bard, bert thet bard? unless his MOM spell checks it for him. (which leads us to a whole new level of "scary") |
01-11-2002, 04:19 PM | #44 |
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It is my firm conviction that the car seen in the background of the scarecrow scene is full of elves going to the Grey Havens.
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01-11-2002, 04:34 PM | #45 |
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Kyote Fields, I think your theory about the car being a form of elvish transport is correct. I believe it was a Cadillac Eldar-ado.
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01-12-2002, 01:37 PM | #46 |
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No, it was not Elves going to the Grey Havens in an Eldar-ado. It was the "Watch on the Shire" driving past in a Ford Ranger.
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01-12-2002, 01:45 PM | #47 |
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GROOOAAANNN!!!
I suppose your going to tell me that the Ranger was bought at a dealership alongside the River Bruinen, therefore it was one of the Fords of Bruinen... |
01-12-2002, 02:22 PM | #48 |
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I think I'll Ram right past this roadblock and Dodge the issue...
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01-12-2002, 02:32 PM | #49 |
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LOL This is KILLING me!! I think I'll go over to Beorn's neighborhood and ask him to throw me off CARrock. My poor brain can't take any more puns!!
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01-12-2002, 03:45 PM | #50 |
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This thread, just like "What would you do? heh heh heh . . .", has officially crossed over into "scary fan" territory. And I love it!
By the way: I watched for the car during my third, most recent viewing. Are we talking about the thing that's kicking up a cloud of dust/smoke in the background? Even when I was watching for it, it looked like nothing more modern than a cottage with smoke coming from its chimney. Any "headlights" appeared to be just light shining from a window. If this isn't what you're talking about, then I couldn't see it even when I looked for it. Additionally, if these are the worst gaffes in the (three hour) movie, then I have even more respect for Jackson and the production team. |
01-13-2002, 12:35 AM | #51 |
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Churl, you know, I saw the film for the sixth time today, and when I looked for the car's headlights, they weren't there! I it possible some theaters got a "corrected" version? I know I was looking in exactly the right place at the right time, but this viewing, the headlights just weren't there!
Actually, the headlights appeared just to the left of the smoke. The smoke was, supposedly, from a chimney. The car is shown by headlights peeping on the horizon, to the far right of the screen, again, just to the left of the smoke.
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01-13-2002, 01:22 AM | #52 |
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YO, BROPOUS!!
I loved your puns yesyerday. They were pretty bad, which is what puns are supposed to be.
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01-13-2002, 02:59 AM | #53 |
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Sure Ents live at these altitudes, ragamuffin, recall that Quickbeam's people, the people of Skinbark, lived on the mountain slopes above Isengard. Only thing is, our local variety of Ents look like aspens!
Glad you made it to our neck of the woods, this is truly a paradise.
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01-13-2002, 03:01 AM | #54 |
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I couldn't find the car. I just didn't see it. I saw the smoke, but now car.
Huh. Well, a thing ran in my paper about that website, and how someone that worked for PJ went to review adn see if the mistakes were true and couldn't find any of them. But... |
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i picked this one up from the website you mentioned:
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01-13-2002, 06:48 PM | #56 |
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They are actually supposed to be Bungo and Belladonna Baggins, parents of Bilbo with Peter Jackson and his Partners faces.
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01-13-2002, 06:54 PM | #57 |
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"Bungo" . . . what a name. It's almost as bad as "Groin the Dwarf."
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01-13-2002, 09:01 PM | #58 |
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Well, I know for a fact that I DID see the headlights in the scarecrow scene on the fifth viewing of the film, but in the sixth viewing, when I pointed it out for my girlfriend to watch for it too, it simply did not occur. No headlights. Had to be either a re-edit or a new copy of the film.
Well, FrodoFriend, at least it wasn't "Dung-O," LOL!
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01-14-2002, 12:10 AM | #59 |
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Not really anything to do with the film as such, but I have a FotR calender.
It's a small official one with 1 page per day, with a quote or pic on each page. Anyway, for Jan 5/6 (weekends are done together) there's a picture of Strider leading the Hobbits towards Weathertop. This shot isn't used in the film as far as I'm aware. BUT (drum roll please!) Weathertop has no ruins on top of it, it's just the hill. Tres bizarre - does anyone know if PJ actually built the ruins on top or they were just CG and the set was only on a stage somewhere? |
01-14-2002, 12:27 AM | #60 |
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Are you totally sure he's leading them to Amon Sul?
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