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BB, who are these Tolkienites you keep refering to? Are you sure you don't mean Jacksonites?
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A difference of interpretation would be saying that something dosen't look the way we invisioned it. But when you are told how something is or what a character is like then what is there to interpret?
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Well, first of all, to stick with the thread, I'm with jerseydevil, if that's cool with him. I'll take the flank of PJ's orcc army and try and stop any from comi up to support their Lord. Nothing too new, really, aint nothin' wrong with a lynch mob
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I got news for you, Melko Belcha: You don't hold the patent on "Tolkien Truth."
It really is wrong for me to call people like Melko "Purists" because it only empowers them to feel like they really are the Protectors of Tolkien. Nothing could be further from the truth. The sad fact is that most so-called purists are not very versed in the books to begin with. The other sad fact is that they are unwilling or unable to adapt to another person's perspective when it differs from their iron-clad 'truth.' The REAL truth be known, they wanted Jackson to capture their own unique personal visions for LOTR and that was never going to happen regardless of who wrote or directed the story. Part of growing up is recognizing that your perspective is simply a perspective and not The Truth. Geez, sometimes I'm so incredibly profound, I sound just like Gandalf. |
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whoops, there was supposed to be more to that. I dont know what the hell just happened. Anyway, the only really good things about the movies, as I see it, is that their popularity no doubt sent a whole lot of people to the book store to get the books, and learn what J.R.R. Tolkien really said, and thus ..gotta go, sorry
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In the book (I don't have it around for the quote) Aragorn talks about Minas Tirith being his city, his people. You could even say he was arrogant because he had not claimed the throne yet. In the films we have Aragorn wanting nothing to do with his people or his city. As Tolkien himself has said, changes to the characters would be a disrespect to the author, PJ showed no respect to the author. PJ might respect LotR, but he does not respect Tolkien.
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And still others would agree. It cuts both ways....
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I would like to civilly suggest that we keep debates to another thread. I think the only way the thread will stay open is if we can say what we're going to do to Jackson, and BB can say what Jackson is going to do to us, but we don't debate each other's points- we just laugh.
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One final thing BB - that quote from the movie came only while Boromir was dying. Before that Aragorn was a wimp running from his destiny. I'm sure there is the "Jackson screwed up aragorn" thread somewhere here where you can try to refute it.
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I will stand with bb, ip, and whover else. Jackson still has some supporters. Yes some of us are quite critical, and have excellent points. I wish some things were different as well, but look at the overall movies, yes they have flaws, and jackson added some of his own interpretations and scenes. Yet overall I find them appealing and entertaining. So I think Jackson did excellent job. And he sure didn't do it to make a quick buck. It was hardly a quick task. So come and try raiding Jackson, it will not be an easy task.
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