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I don't mind if people put the right answer or corrects a mistake I've made I just dont want them to make me feel like Im the dumbest person on earth while they do it.
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05-17-2003, 11:30 AM | #42 | |
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05-17-2003, 11:46 AM | #44 |
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Ah, SGH, letting the foxes govern the hen house. Interesting.
I've spent some time this morning reading the posts in this thread. Wow. I'm about to say something that is going to piss most, if not all of you, off. So, be it. First, what a bunch of hypocrites! In this thread, I see people trashing threads that are risque who themselves post spam after spam of sexual inuendo, and encourage it in others. I see people trashing spammers, who I have observed to be 'consistent spammers.' People who post snide remarks in their posts toward other members under the guise of being 'sweet', sticking their holier than thou noses into the air, and now condemn those that do the same. Second, about the 'cliquish' threads: I must be in the 'out crowd' because I would never allow myself to be in any 'in crowd'. And I don't see any of that going on. If you want to be a part of the discussion, then jump in. I rarely see any posts where someone is actually called a name, and sometimes I think, 'yeah, they deserved it'. But I know the rules and I've fought with myself to edit what I say (admitting that I'm not always successful). From what I'm reading here, some of you want to turn this MB into a dead semi-psuedo-intellectual discussion board where you can post a mild opinion here and there, but don't back it up with any real quotes from the books, which have been called 'obscure' here, b/c that would just scare people away. My message to you: stop being intimidated by that. Learn from it instead. I have. I owe my Tengwar to RĂ*an, I owe my Quenya to OrnelĂ*rĂ« MistĂ« and Falagar and others who post in the Tolkien Languages thread. I owe much more from these "'Loremaster' gas bags". For those of you who have posted here, I say let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone. And if, by some chance, you can see in your hearts that you have sinned then think back upon what you have posted here against others. Instead of condemning and judging, be a model of good behavior yourselves and perhaps others will follow your lead. I have sinned, and I know it. Therefore, the stone at my feet is kicked away. But I will not stand idly by and let you stone others. And now that I have pissed off all the hypocrites here... bite me. Last edited by Ruinel : 05-17-2003 at 11:50 AM. |
05-17-2003, 12:09 PM | #45 |
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*Mumbles something about the pot calling the kettle black.*
You know, contrary to belief, I don't think people here believe that the world revolves around you, and I hardly think they're gonna be concerned at being called hypocrites by a hypocrite. My two cents. |
05-17-2003, 12:20 PM | #46 | |
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SGH sometimes even spams once in a while or participates in an off topic discussion - but it's just knowing when enough is enough and putting an end to it and getting the thread back on topic.
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05-17-2003, 12:25 PM | #48 |
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Here's the thing Ruinel, this thread isn't about finger pointing, or accusing others of doing things that most all have done. Hypocrits or not, It is about changing our ways for the good of the board and the pleasure of its members. That's all it's about.
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05-17-2003, 12:25 PM | #49 |
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Actually, I was referring to your very own holier than thou attitude taken up in some of the other threads. And I really have no wish to re-read your posts any more than necessary, thank-you-very-much. I've already had to scroll through several pages of them.
Anyway, I had better get to sleep (4.30am) before I get even more cranky. |
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05-17-2003, 12:38 PM | #51 | |
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Maybe Sheeana's right, by writing the above post I too am a hypocrite. So, be it. But to all those who have posted your accusations here, I say: take a moment, if you will, to reflect on yourself and what you do yourself. Speak for yourself with your actions and not by whom you condemn. |
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05-17-2003, 12:45 PM | #52 |
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I think the board's staff should be more careful with their posts than the other members. Their behaviour in the threads is a signal to everyone else on what's accepted and what's not accepted. If a mod goes far OT in a thread, then people will think it's OK for everyone. Not that I've seen much of such *bad behaviour* from the staff here.
I also agree with Lizra's last post. When occasions of spamming isn't commented by the mods, again other members will think it's OK.
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05-17-2003, 12:55 PM | #53 |
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Very nice of you to not say names I suppose Ruinel I noticed that a lot of people said they too were guilty of these things they said they had problems with.
Besides if we get past the whole, oh well you do that too thing, we can get some good advice on how to clean up the General messages which was the point of this thread in the first place. I don't want a boring flit in flit out convo and I do want to learn all the things that I can but once bitten twice shy. I don't want the right answer or wording to be beaten into me. And its not so easy to jump in as you put it. Cause you have no idea what everyone is spamming about! And it annoys people to ask them to explain inside jokes. (once again im guilty of this with the whole Jonathan thing) And no one is stoning anyone. We (most of us) are stating what we find wrong with GM and how we would like to change it and we should be able to do it without being called a hypocrite
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So, my stand is: if the Mooters here do not approve of the behavior of others (spamming, sexual innuendo, off-topic conversations, snide remarks and name calling) then make that change in yourself first. Others will follow your example. Last edited by Ruinel : 05-17-2003 at 01:50 PM. |
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I readily admit making sexual innuendo, probably will again in the future......if the admins decide it is too much, I'll be banned. SGH hair was good enough to take the time to issue a warning, and thanks to that I know what the consequences will be....a lot of 'mooters don't like that kind of post, but then there are a lot who do *shrugs again* Quote:
My preffered method of communicating with 'mooters is via PM (if ya think I post a lot on the main boards, yer should see me PM correspondance) but the problem is that the PM system is pathetic I can live with the 120 second rule, no problem there, it usually takes me longer than that type a reply.......what really bugs me about PM is the pathetic limit to how long it can be, not to mention the stupid limit of 40 PMs ......I mean honestly, some PM conversations are now 4-5 posts long to single peopld .........is there any way we can get the PM length enlarged? |
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U agree with the PM limit size. Anyone that tries to PM me - knows that they constantly get "mailbox is full" messages. But my feeling is that PM is not a chat utility nor is it supposed to be. Ben has to pay for the disk space and the band width. I would much rather people talk to me through IM - which is more of one on one conversation or us e-mail which is basically the same thing as PM without any limits.
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Yah (about the sexual indou/PG13 thing)..... I just have to make my point. I (personally) need the PG13 thing to stay as good as it isbecause one time my mom walked in on me. One time I was reading one post that had a death-smilie in it (when people where joking around and saying what they could do to Jonathan, one person had a death smilie kinda thing). My mom walked in and saw it, and had a hairy. She said that if she saw anything unapproprite or of the sort again, that I would be banned from entmoot (for good). I know that the other people have a right to discuss what they will (so long as the mods/admins let them), but I was just stating that........ yah.
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