11-20-2003, 02:56 AM | #41 |
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Thanks for the correction, JD - you're better at history than I am!
I'll amend it to: that by the current laws of this country (including constitutions as laws), Mr. S. cannot be president. If the citizens of the US decide that they think that the situation that originally caused this definition of "who can be president" has changed, then the voters can take steps to bring this issue to a vote. I see this as the same reasoning - if the the citizens of the US decide that they think that the situation that originally caused this definition of "who can marry" has changed, then the voters can take steps to bring this issue to a vote. Note that the only change was "who can be president" to "who can marry". It's the same idea, IMO.
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How about you, IRex? Do I seem to understand what you believe?
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11-20-2003, 09:07 AM | #43 | |
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Just to clear up the terminology,
Polygamy= one person with multiple partners Polygyny= one male, multiple females Polyandry= one female, multiple males Polyandry is rare throughout the animal kingdom for a simple reason: eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. Polygyny has been practised in the majority of human cultures over time, either in the form of polygamous marriage or in socially sanctioned forms such as concubinage. There's actually a simple rule of thumb to tell if a species is polygamous rather than monogamous or promiscuous (all morally neutral terms in biology, of course) . Dimorphism refers to the bodily differences between the sexes (peacock's tail etc.) The key is body-size dimorphism. The larger the (average) male is than the (average) female, the more likely the animal to be polygynous- not because the male dominates the female, but because if one male has ten females, nine males don't, and that one had better be strong enough to keep the others away. Quote:
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11-20-2003, 09:58 AM | #44 |
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Thanks, Mizz Pants. Very interesting article.
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11-20-2003, 10:26 AM | #45 |
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Makes me wonder if "polyandry" could begin to appear in China. With the "one family - one child" policy going for so many years, they have an overabundance of males (sadly, there's a preference for boys... many girls are either: aborted when the gender is determined, placed in an orphanage or have "accidents" - very high rate of infanticide). A bride may become a rare thing!
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11-20-2003, 11:53 AM | #46 |
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very interesting Graymouser
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11-20-2003, 02:27 PM | #47 |
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why is it you cant seem to grasp the idea that you CANT simply discriminate against a group of people (be they black or jewish or gay or all three for that matter) just because you don’t want them to have the same rights as you no matter HOW many of your friends and fellow citizens want to discriminate against them too.
Why is it that you cannot seem to grasp the fact that marriage can only occur between a man and a woman. Since this is true, there is NO discrimination involved. There already is a problem with the number of women in India. They have been selectively aborting females for sometime. I have seen reports of men in India who because of their good financial situation would normally have no trouble finding a wife be cannot find one. |
11-20-2003, 02:36 PM | #48 |
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Oh, that's interesting, Mouser - "Polygyny= one male, multiple females" - never heard of that term.
We (hopefully) learn something new every day!
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and who says it should also include same-sex marriages? Apparently, you, JD As you are both equally important human beings, I think your opinions have the same weight. Hmmm, sounds like a good idea how to run a country
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or is it an "ok" about my "I'll discuss the rest of the post when you are satisfied that I clearly understand what you are saying."
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Would you like to get married or civil-unioned someday, JD, if the right person (note "person", not "woman" ) came along? Just curious
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