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08-14-2004, 03:38 PM | #41 | |||
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Maybe they used a slightly more dignified tool like forge tongs...
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08-16-2004, 10:51 AM | #42 | |
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08-16-2004, 11:39 AM | #43 |
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Yes, good point. Later on, he seems to know that fire will be a useful defence against them.
We're told that the Nine have not been seen over the River for many years, though. It strikes me that there are two possibilities: perhaps in his youth, particularly in Gondor, he came across them, or else on one of his long journeys which we later learn extend as far as Rhun and Harad. Or maybe this is just some gratuitous hype from the Prof. |
08-16-2004, 03:47 PM | #44 |
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Maybe it was during the hunt for Gollum?
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08-16-2004, 05:01 PM | #45 | |
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Probably on Aragorn's way back home the " Men in Black" stopped him and asked for a "driver 's license. Last edited by Olmer : 08-17-2004 at 10:01 PM. |
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08-18-2004, 03:27 PM | #47 |
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I'm playing 'catch-up' again and just finished Ch 9 at lunch today.
I just LOVE the lengthened version of 'Hey Diddle Diddle'! For you Norwegians, Belgians, Spaniards, Egyptians, etc out there, there's a nursery rhyme we teach our children which approximates the next-to-last verse. JRRT greatly expanded it to what we get in Chapter 9. Here's the common version: Hey Diddle-diddle, The Cat and the Fiddle, The Cow jumped over the Moon! The Little Dog laughed, To see such a sport, And the Dish ran away with the Spoon! It just occured to me at lunch that a lot of you from non-English speaking countries were probably unfamiliar with it and would likely miss the cultural reference.
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Thanks Val, I didn't know it. Now I understand better:
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08-24-2004, 07:48 AM | #51 |
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I don't think Aragorn was among them. I seem to remember the text mentioned that the leader of the Rangers (IOW Aragorn) wasn't among them so that they could not withstand the Nazgul. But I'm working from fuzzy memory here so I could be dead wrong.
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But this was a task beoynd the power of the Dunedain; and maybe it would still have proved so, even if their captain, Aragorn, had been with them. But he was away to the north...UT. As I said, the meeting, probably, happened after his deliverance of Gollum to the realms of Thranduil, because, as it said, the borders of the Forest had been constantly watched by Nazguls. Last edited by Olmer : 08-24-2004 at 08:29 AM. |
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08-24-2004, 09:42 AM | #53 |
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Hmmm, Then perhaps he encountered them along the Geenway where (From UT-The Hunt for the Ring) the Nazgul set up a check point to intercept traverlers on the road near which Angmar set up his 'camp' temporarily. Also after the ford battle, some of the Nazgul pursued the rangers and Aragaorn may have come into that from the other direction some time after the battle.
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*is confused* Those Nazgul, they sure are hard to keep track of! I think they arrived from multiple directions when they gathered at Bree.
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09-23-2004, 08:23 AM | #56 | |
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this bit does, however, show jrrt's humour again, we see it many times in hobbit, lotr, but not so much in sil, i never thought of bree as being a dark foreboding place, more that it was dark in PJ's adaptation simply because of the time of day... don't know what you lot think about this tho...? |
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01-28-2005, 11:48 PM | #57 |
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could it make Frodo phisically fall from the table...?
I don't think so; the ring just took advantage of that particular situation. BUT had Frodo not fallen, the ring would have taken advantage of another situation on that same night because the ring was set on slipping on Frodo's finger on that night. Frodo and the hobbitts are still quite careless at this point and the ring has an easy job to have it its way |
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On the subject of Aragon meeting the black riders, it says in one of the HoME books (either 6 or 7) that it was something left over from when he was a hobbit and had his feet burnt or something.
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