Paranormal - Page 3

samwise of the shire · 11-03-2001, 08:36 PM

I dont know if they work but Comic I suggest that in the future you look at the label.

You know whats funny Galadriel, ghosts dont scare me and neither do spirits, I dont know if it's foolish or brave or if it's the fact I beleive they cant hurt me, they dont scare me. Are you a Christian Galadriel?If so we're on the same boat.

Comic Book Guy · 11-04-2001, 11:56 AM

I did read the label, but it was too cryptic to understand.

Darkside Spirit · 11-06-2001, 06:27 AM

Aliens?

I really have no idea. It can be said that it's impossible for us to be the only life in the universe, but remember that on Earth the conditions are just right. If the purpose of the universe is to create life, then it might be fulfilled on Earth and nowhere else. Even if bacteria are in existence on other planets, I doubt that the conditions would be just right as they are on Earth for it to develop into animal life.

Ghosts?

No, I don't believe in spirits and people awoken from the dead, etc etc. I am atheistic, as some of you will know from the religion thread, so I don't believe in any form of afterlife or continued existence following death. What I do believe is that there must be something that causes ghostly visions because there have been too many to dismiss. There's a shop somewhere (allegedly) haunted by the beheaded Duke of Buckingham, and people have been seeing him for centuries. There, it might be something to do with the way the light falls on that building, or some strange effect the patterns of the building have on the human mind. Or it might be some enormous hoax, passed down from father to son.

As far as haunted houses go, I think that ties in with my comments about ghosts.

I don't believe in witchcraft, no. It's surprising the number of people who do, though. "We must ban Harry Potter because it gives people access to dangerous power sources" etc etc etc.

Darkhalcyon · 11-06-2001, 09:20 AM

harry potter got banned in a few places out in the midwest too, to my knowledge anyway. harry potter is not an acurate source of witch craft though. It's really very sad, i hate it when people shoot books down with out having read them.

As for Galadriel's remark on foolishness. Over commercialization and popularization of what toy companies call "magic" have kind of destroyed the true meaning of such. So you will get fools who haven't any idea of what they get into, and if it doesn't work exactly as planned which further destroys the idea of magic existing.

This is exactly the reason that we need more fantasy!!! YOu don't have to be down to earth ALL the time right? A little elvish lore never hurt anyone. Or wizards in training.

Oh well, i'm just rambling now ^^; thanks to anyone who actually read through all of that!

easterlinge · 11-08-2001, 01:11 AM

Has anyone here had a supernatural experience, ie ghost sightings, "lost time", precognition/foresight, etc.?

One day, my sister in London blacked out mysteriously in the lecture theatre. It happened that my Mom was being anaesthetized to remove a gallstone at the same time. My sister was on the other side of the world (she's in London, my Mom in SE Asia) and Mom didn't want to worry her, so my sister had no idea.

Anyways, the next day my sister called home demanding to know what had happened to our Mom, and so the whole minor surgery story came out. Psychic connection?

ryan · 11-08-2001, 03:39 AM

Aliens Exsist! Tater is proof!

Darkhalcyon · 11-10-2001, 06:18 PM

Psychic Connection!

it's possible. One of my best friend's was in college (i'm in Highschool now, this was a few years ago) and she started having major boughts with depression,and then so did i. We made attempts on our lives at the same time. And she lived in PA....NOt quite like your story, but well, ermm ^^;;

(i'm better now by the way)

And also, the third person in out group, her stuff was taken away from her by her parents (super duper religious fanatics. christians even) All her posters were taken down, her books, tapes, CDs, everthing. She's 21 and rents her room now, too. Needless tosay, me and the other friend knew it right away,and she lives in MD!!!!wierd,ne?

fireworks19 · 11-12-2001, 12:56 AM

I have that kind of connection with my boyfriend, who is one of my 2 best friends. I had that kind of connection with my other best friend, too. Just them though, no one else. I think that kind of think only works with people who are really close.

As for the ghost thing, I stopped believing in ghosts around the same time I stopped believing in God.

Aliens though, its illogical to assume we're the only living sentient beings in the entire universe. Illogical, and a bit self-centered(of the human race collectively, not any specific person here).

I do take great stock in dreams, though. I've had dreams that warned of bad stuff and foretold good stuff...Like when I found out my current boyfriend liked me. It went on IRL just like it did in the dream...which was really nice =)

galadriel · 11-12-2001, 08:01 PM

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It's really very sad, i hate it when people shoot books down with out having read them.

I completely agree. The magic in Harry Potter is inspired by a conglomerate of ideas drawn from the religions of pre-Christian Europe, alchemy, old fables, and various other sources that the world has convienently labled as "witchcraft". Although I'm not sure if Wiccan-like religions are good/bad/whatever, most of the people who practice them have are good, decent people. They do not worship Satan, burn bibles, or sacrifice babies. Moreover, Harry Potter is not a manual on practicing witchcraft, it is a great book with lots of Christian-friendly morals. People who try to censor it are not only wrong, but ridiculous in even trying. Sometimes I suspect that if JK Rowling simply removed the word "witchcraft" from her books, many people would be happy. Probably not, though; many people are stubborn when it comes to faith, and would object to the most casual mentioning of a black pointed hat or a flying broomstick.

Starr Polish · 02-18-2002, 10:20 PM

Laurelyn · 02-19-2002, 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by Starr Polish
bump

Huh???

Rána Eressëa · 02-20-2002, 11:55 PM

This is a nice, calm lil' thread dicussing religion

That's always a good thing.

I believe in alien life, and someone's already answered why for me. I'm not sure about ghosts - I don't think I ever will be either. Witches? Born out of imagination and fear - nothing more.

I wouldn't consider myself an atheist (but everyone else does) because I think atheist means you believe in nothing, and I believe in two very important things: love, and most importantly, myself. Whenever someone asks me what my religion is, I just reply, "My religion is love." -- it's the only thing that's really keeping us together. Every other religion just seems to separate us or tear us apart.

Starr Polish · 02-20-2002, 11:59 PM

I believe the politically correct term would be secular humanist, Rogue Elf? I try to look at myself as a Christian humanist

(humanism, to me, means trying to live your life to it's full potential)

Ghosts or spirits or whatever you want to call them, yeah, I believe in them. I believe they can be malevolent or benevolent...well, actually, since I believe in angels, those would be my 'good' ghosts, as well as demons being the 'bad' ones.

Other life, intelligent or not, in teh universe? Well, if there isn't

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it seems like a big waste of space

Arathorn · 02-21-2002, 01:17 AM

hi.

can I sneak in? I want to contribute (not impose) my views as an open-minded catholic and a conservative scientist. There are many things taught in my religion that I do not take literally but do so with a grain of salt.

On ideas/beliefs that may differ from mine, I don't readily believe, of course, but neither do I dismiss. I'm open to them.

On aliens (from outside Eart), I would like to say that I cannot give a definite yes or no; but I believe it is more difficult to prove their non-existence. Regarding the lot of wasted space argument (From Carl Sagan, perhaps?), I would like to add that there are just too many worlds to have non of them with a similar environment as ours. Again that's just me, an alien from another country.

I'm currently reading this book by Enoch (from the dead sea scrolls, me thinks) which has lots of references to the battles of angels and possibly the real reason why the great flood occured. There are many websites publishing this.

Nibs · 02-21-2002, 01:32 AM

Well, I just have to wonder what difference it makes to us if there is foreign life out there. Will they be hostile (independence day)? Or will they yearn to enlighten us for our betterment (close encounters of the third kind)?

Until substantial evidence is produced, we will only have our own conjectures and experiences to lean on, so it's a matter of opinion, just like nearly everything argued on this board.

[looooooong sigh]

Arathorn · 02-21-2002, 01:56 AM

Yeah you're right. But I also find other opinions interesting and wouldn't mind knowing them whether or not the existence of alien life proves true.

BTW, there are other reasons I like going to message boards such as this:
1. It develops conversation skills
2. It develops diplomacy skills
3. It develops reasoning skills for many
4. It develops a sense of humor
5. It exposes one to different types and levels of culture
6. It is fun
7. Probably something I might think up later on.

11-03-2001, 08:36 PM	#41
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	I dont know if they work but Comic I suggest that in the future you look at the label. You know whats funny Galadriel, ghosts dont scare me and neither do spirits, I dont know if it's foolish or brave or if it's the fact I beleive they cant hurt me, they dont scare me. Are you a Christian Galadriel?If so we're on the same boat. __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

11-06-2001, 09:20 AM	#44
Darkhalcyon Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: a boring little town not too far from manhattan Posts: 140	harry potter got banned in a few places out in the midwest too, to my knowledge anyway. harry potter is not an acurate source of witch craft though. It's really very sad, i hate it when people shoot books down with out having read them. As for Galadriel's remark on foolishness. Over commercialization and popularization of what toy companies call "magic" have kind of destroyed the true meaning of such. So you will get fools who haven't any idea of what they get into, and if it doesn't work exactly as planned which further destroys the idea of magic existing. This is exactly the reason that we need more fantasy!!! YOu don't have to be down to earth ALL the time right? A little elvish lore never hurt anyone. Or wizards in training. Oh well, i'm just rambling now ^^; thanks to anyone who actually read through all of that! __________________ Absolute power corrupts. Knowledge is power. Study hard, be evil.

11-08-2001, 03:39 AM	#46
ryan t2t relic Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 531	Aliens Exsist! Tater is proof! __________________ "And the Lord spoke, "Send me your money, Empty thine wallets into my pockets my pockets, the pockets of Ryan, Ryan, he who will deliver the money unto me. Then you will truley be happy." And the people followed, and all was well." --Ryan 62:33

11-10-2001, 06:18 PM	#47
Darkhalcyon Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: a boring little town not too far from manhattan Posts: 140	Psychic Connection! it's possible. One of my best friend's was in college (i'm in Highschool now, this was a few years ago) and she started having major boughts with depression,and then so did i. We made attempts on our lives at the same time. And she lived in PA....NOt quite like your story, but well, ermm ^^;; (i'm better now by the way) And also, the third person in out group, her stuff was taken away from her by her parents (super duper religious fanatics. christians even) All her posters were taken down, her books, tapes, CDs, everthing. She's 21 and rents her room now, too. Needless tosay, me and the other friend knew it right away,and she lives in MD!!!!wierd,ne? __________________ Absolute power corrupts. Knowledge is power. Study hard, be evil.

11-12-2001, 12:56 AM	#48
fireworks19 Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 156	I have that kind of connection with my boyfriend, who is one of my 2 best friends. I had that kind of connection with my other best friend, too. Just them though, no one else. I think that kind of think only works with people who are *really* close. As for the ghost thing, I stopped believing in ghosts around the same time I stopped believing in God. Aliens though, its illogical to assume we're the only living sentient beings in the entire universe. Illogical, and a bit self-centered(of the human race collectively, not any specific person here). I do take great stock in dreams, though. I've had dreams that warned of bad stuff and foretold good stuff...Like when I found out my current boyfriend liked me. It went on IRL just like it did in the dream...which was really nice =) __________________ Just Watch the Fireworks Just Meet Fireworks =) Last edited by fireworks19 : 11-12-2001 at 01:13 AM.

11-04-2001, 11:56 AM	#42
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	I did read the label, but it was too cryptic to understand.

11-06-2001, 06:27 AM	#43
Darkside Spirit Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 47	Aliens? I really have no idea. It can be said that it's impossible for us to be the only life in the universe, but remember that on Earth the conditions are just right. If the purpose of the universe is to create life, then it might be fulfilled on Earth and nowhere else. Even if bacteria are in existence on other planets, I doubt that the conditions would be just right as they are on Earth for it to develop into animal life. Ghosts? No, I don't believe in spirits and people awoken from the dead, etc etc. I am atheistic, as some of you will know from the religion thread, so I don't believe in any form of afterlife or continued existence following death. What I do believe is that there must be something that causes ghostly visions because there have been too many to dismiss. There's a shop somewhere (allegedly) haunted by the beheaded Duke of Buckingham, and people have been seeing him for centuries. There, it might be something to do with the way the light falls on that building, or some strange effect the patterns of the building have on the human mind. Or it might be some enormous hoax, passed down from father to son. As far as haunted houses go, I think that ties in with my comments about ghosts. I don't believe in witchcraft, no. It's surprising the number of people who do, though. "We must ban Harry Potter because it gives people access to dangerous power sources" etc etc etc.

11-08-2001, 01:11 AM	#45
easterlinge Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Farthest Khand, the darkest East... Posts: 442	Has anyone here had a supernatural experience, ie ghost sightings, "lost time", precognition/foresight, etc.? One day, my sister in London blacked out mysteriously in the lecture theatre. It happened that my Mom was being anaesthetized to remove a gallstone at the same time. My sister was on the other side of the world (she's in London, my Mom in SE Asia) and Mom didn't want to worry her, so my sister had no idea. Anyways, the next day my sister called home demanding to know what had happened to our Mom, and so the whole minor surgery story came out. Psychic connection?

02-18-2002, 10:20 PM	#50
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	bump __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

02-20-2002, 11:55 PM	#52
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	This is a nice, calm lil' thread dicussing religion That's always a good thing. I believe in alien life, and someone's already answered why for me. I'm not sure about ghosts - I don't think I ever will be either. Witches? Born out of imagination and fear - nothing more. I wouldn't consider myself an atheist (but everyone else does) because I think atheist means you believe in nothing, and I believe in two very important things: love, and most importantly, myself. Whenever someone asks me what my religion is, I just reply, "My religion is love." -- it's the only thing that's really keeping us together. Every other religion just seems to separate us or tear us apart.

02-21-2002, 01:17 AM	#54
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	hi. can I sneak in? I want to contribute (not impose) my views as an open-minded catholic and a conservative scientist. There are many things taught in my religion that I do not take literally but do so with a grain of salt. On ideas/beliefs that may differ from mine, I don't readily believe, of course, but neither do I dismiss. I'm open to them. On aliens (from outside Eart), I would like to say that I cannot give a definite yes or no; but I believe it is more difficult to prove their non-existence. Regarding the lot of wasted space argument (From Carl Sagan, perhaps?), I would like to add that there are just too many worlds to have non of them with a similar environment as ours. Again that's just me, an alien from another country. I'm currently reading this book by Enoch (from the dead sea scrolls, me thinks) which has lots of references to the battles of angels and possibly the real reason why the great flood occured. There are many websites publishing this. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

02-21-2002, 01:32 AM	#55
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Well, I just have to wonder what difference it makes to us if there is foreign life out there. Will they be hostile (independence day)? Or will they yearn to enlighten us for our betterment (close encounters of the third kind)? Until substantial evidence is produced, we will only have our own conjectures and experiences to lean on, so it's a matter of opinion, just like nearly everything argued on this board. [looooooong sigh] __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-21-2002, 01:56 AM	#56
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	Yeah you're right. But I also find other opinions interesting and wouldn't mind knowing them whether or not the existence of alien life proves true. BTW, there are other reasons I like going to message boards such as this: 1. It develops conversation skills 2. It develops diplomacy skills 3. It develops reasoning skills for many 4. It develops a sense of humor 5. It exposes one to different types and levels of culture 6. It is fun 7. Probably something I might think up later on. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

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