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in fact, archaeopteryx is more often classified as dinosaur, earniel
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Thought so.
Whoo, darn, I can't even remember how to type archaeopteryx, my younger self would be so embarassed of me. Must. get. sleep. G'night.
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I can tell from my own experience that in the microscopic world, our tiny friends bacteria are quite eager to take “leaps” when they evolve rather than evolve slowly. Quote:
New species don’t necessarily come from existing genetic info at all. We have viruses that incorporate their DNA in us all the time and a considerable amount of our DNA are in fact archaic virus DNA. I would also like to present our friends bacteria again . They prove that it’s not only existing genetic info that’s involved when they evolve into new species. Basically, if new genetic material is available, the bacteria can put it to use. In fact, I did a lab today on this very thing! . We poured some jellyfish genes on some bacteria and got a new bacteria strain that (if you irradiate them with UV light) can glow in the dark! Quote:
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From what I know, it don’t recall ever hearing birds would be the descendants of flying lizards either. Birds evolved from theropods that had a skeletal structure similar to those of today’s birds. Flying lizards had skeletons that differs quite a lot from those of birds. On an interesting note birds and flying lizards evolved their wings independent of each other. Two other kind of animals have evolved wings independently; bats and insects And yes, like many other kids I had a true passion for dinosaurs when I was little, I knew everything about them!
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What? I don't see anything wrong with your av, or title.
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I read an interesting article the other day about how scientists have managed to use modified viruses that can transform themselves into computer transistors. With this technology, it would be possible to create faster computers.
To get viruses with the right properties, scientists have exposed the viruses to natural selection, thus letting evolution be the guide. The scientists used a DNA synthesis machine to randomly put together a billion gene pieces, to which the viruses were exposed. The reason was so that evolution would get some genetic material to work with. The goal was to create a virus that could form bonds with zinc sulfide crystals. What the scientists did was to pour the viruses and the gene pieces on a plate made of zinc sulfide and then see if any of the viruses had "soaked up" a gene that made it possible for them to form bonds to the plate. The viruses that couldn’t bind to the plate were killed off. The scientists were actually to find the needle in the haystack and isolate one virus that had absorbed a piece of DNA that gave it the properties the scientists were hoping to find. So through directed evolution and by using some random DNA, the scientists could develop the virus they wanted Perhaps in the future, it will be a good thing to have viruses in your computer Interesting site on directed-evolution technology - http://www.cambrios.com/
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So what you're saying is that intelligent beings manipulated a situation so as to create a specific life they desired through evolution?
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Yup, directed evolution. Pretty cool eh?
Now they directed it by controling the viruses' environment. Outside the lab the environment - with climate changes and such - is much more random and not controlled by a higher intelligence.
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One must understand that this is science and this is how science works. Just because physicians may modify their models, chemists don't know all the steps in the synthesis of a substence or biologists don't know why a cell reacts to a substance like it does - it doesn't mean that the models, synthesis or response don't exist/take place.
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Indeed. And thats a point thats often ignored by those who disagree with evolution or science in general. Science, unlike certain religions, doesnt have a problem making it clear that it doesnt have all the answers. The very concept of science is about the constant and never ending search for accurate knowledge.
Heres an interesting list of 13 things that "Do not make sense" scientifically that New Scientist put together. Quote:
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I found this funny, my NationStates Gov't At the other day:
Evolution: Truth Or Witchcraft? Government Acts The Issue Religious and scientific leaders have clashed recently over the teaching of evolution in public schools. The Debate "Ach, good to see you haff made it here in one piece," says evil doctor Beth Dodinas as you wake up strapped to a chair in a secret lab. "As you can see from my brilliant experiments, science has now solved zer problems of zer vorld und ve need nothink else! I propose zat ve do AVAY vith zer teachink of silly thinks like religion und concentrate on zer FACTS! For a start, ve must teach our children where ve came from. Ve shouldn't be teaching anythink that hasn't been scientifically proven - er - accounted for, I mean. Igor, release our guest - I haff a monkey to show him..." "That's a LIE, son, we come from the great meteor of truth!" yells firebrand preacher Pastor Richards, kicking down your door. "We cannot allow there transgressions against the HOLY truth to continue! All the heathens should be thankful we don't burn them at the stake for their devilry! This nation's true and just government must ban the filth and corruption being spread bah these WICKED men!" "What I'm wondering is why we need to take sides on this," says student Jack Wall. "After all, it's only a theory. An unproven theory. It's not like it has any bearing on real life - let's just allow the biologists to teach evolution but emphasise that it's only a theory, but also make them teach other theories such as creationism. Heck, we can tell them that crackpot theory that we're all descended from canteloupes too! Then everyone goes away happy." "Stop bickering already!" says Faith Jefferson, Minister of Education. "I say that you can have your cake and eat it, too. Education should be split if it stops this debate. The parents can send their children to secular schools or religious schools, based on what they want their kids to hear. It's expensive, certainly, but the education budget has been needing boosted for ages anyway." |
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I'm not familiar with the Viking's methane (maybe something to do with the Viking landers on Mars?), I'll look it up on Google as well as some of the other things you mentioned. Btw the Wow signal is clearly a highly scientific proof that there is intelligent life out there (). [edit]Hey Spidey, whenever I get that NationStates issue, I choose #3. I like when "everyone goes home happy" and maybe they get a bit more educated too
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