The state of contemporary christian music - Page 3

Curubethion · 03-24-2006, 03:44 PM

Well, if you're talking about RS James-style music, yeah there isn't much variation. But there's still good rock with creativity too. Switchfoot has a couple of really good ones...and I don't mean Stars, which has been overplayed to death on the radio.

Mercutio · 03-24-2006, 10:10 PM

How about Casting Crowns?

Curubethion · 03-24-2006, 10:44 PM

They've got lots of good songs, although...a couple of them fall under the category that Hector's describing...

hectorberlioz · 08-30-2006, 05:16 PM

Here's an article I think you guys might like to read...

http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/...ws/linton.html

Huorn · 09-05-2006, 05:16 PM

For the most part I have to agree with Hector. Even Carman, which my husband likes a lot, gets boring. Some of his rythm devices just sound plain ugly because they are so mediocre.

Steven Ray Boltz' voice is like fingernails on chalkboard. He doesn't even have proper voice control. I can tell by the harsh edge of his voice he is singing from his chest rather than his diapragm. Some of Christian Pop isn't mediocre, it is just plain bad.

hectorberlioz · 09-05-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Huorn

For the most part I have to agree with Hector. Even Carman, which my husband likes a lot, gets boring. Some of his rythm devices just sound plain ugly because they are so mediocre.

Steven Ray Boltz' voice is like fingernails on chalkboard. He doesn't even have proper voice control. I can tell by the harsh edge of his voice he is singing from his chest rather than his diapragm. Some of Christian Pop isn't mediocre, it is just plain bad.

To top it all: have you heard the "Cartoons praise the Lord" song?...I can't stand even the thought of that...thing.

cee2lee2 · 09-05-2006, 10:14 PM

I'm not really up on music in general anymore and especially not CCM. Bruce Cockburn is an artist I've liked a lot in the past, who is christian but probably doesn't fall into what y'all are describing as CCM. One of the reasons I haven't spent much time listening to CCM is because of the sameness of the music. It's hard to tell the songs apart.

Some of the young people at church told me about a local christian rock station which I've been listening to sporadically but they don't often mention who's singing, so I haven't got a clue who I'm listening to.

Planning to check out some of the artists several of you have mentioned.

Huorn · 09-05-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

To top it all: have you heard the "Cartoons praise the Lord" song?...I can't stand even the thought of that...thing.

Oh yes I have heard that one. It is just abominable! I have to suppress the urge to vomit. Another I heard a few years ago talked about a football field in Heaven. These songs trivialize God. It is only a development in an on going trend. We have domesticated God. We have forgotten that He is the God of Abrahan, Isaac and Jacob. He is the God that scorched the top of Mount Sinai and parted the Red Sea. He also the same God that created the stars in the heavens.

Perhaps the most beautiful worship music I have ever heard is Handel's Messiah. It captures for me the majesty of God. That masterpiece literally brings tears of joy to my eyes when I listen to it.

brownjenkins · 09-06-2006, 10:24 AM

How about christian heavy metal?

Last Child of Ungoliant · 09-06-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brownjenkins

How about christian heavy metal?

i not so long ago stumbled across a sort of "christian black metal", and those creating this were urging their fans to go out and attack the listeners of real black metal - doesn't sound very christian to me..?

(BTW one of the main themes of black metal is extremely un-christian for those that don't know)

hectorberlioz · 09-06-2006, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Huorn

Oh yes I have heard that one. It is just abominable! I have to suppress the urge to vomit. Another I heard a few years ago talked about a football field in Heaven. These songs trivialize God. It is only a development in an on going trend. We have domesticated God. We have forgotten that He is the God of Abrahan, Isaac and Jacob. He is the God that scorched the top of Mount Sinai and parted the Red Sea. He also the same God that created the stars in the heavens.

Perhaps the most beautiful worship music I have ever heard is Handel's Messiah. It captures for me the majesty of God. That masterpiece literally brings tears of joy to my eyes when I listen to it.

Which is why I say, keep the "christian" music (for the most part), I'll take the sacred music of classical...

BTW, my older brother use to listen to Carman too...too hyper.

BeardofPants · 09-06-2006, 10:35 PM

*smacks hector
I clicked your link where it says "win a million dollars now!" and it took me to your stoopid memoirs thread. You owe me a million dollars buster.

Oh, and in the words of someone wise that I once met once in a galaxy pretty damned close and not so far away ... "Being christian is no excuse for having bad taste in music".

Curubethion · 09-07-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Huorn

Oh yes I have heard that one. It is just abominable! I have to suppress the urge to vomit. Another I heard a few years ago talked about a football field in Heaven. These songs trivialize God. It is only a development in an on going trend. We have domesticated God. We have forgotten that He is the God of Abrahan, Isaac and Jacob. He is the God that scorched the top of Mount Sinai and parted the Red Sea. He also the same God that created the stars in the heavens.

You're talking about Big House, right? Yes, in a way, we've "domesticated God"...however, you've also got to remember that the God you're talking about didn't just do all those awesome and majestic things. He also walked among us, lived like us, heck, he even laughed and joked. I don't think he'd find anything wrong with someone talking about Heaven being a "big, big yard where we can play football." It's actually something like a common man's poem about Heaven and happiness.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-07-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BeardofPants

Oh, and in the words of someone wise that I once met once in a galaxy pretty damned close and not so far away ... "Being christian is no excuse for having bad taste in music".

Aaaaay-men, preach it, sista!

hectorberlioz · 09-07-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BeardofPants

*smacks hector
I clicked your link where it says "win a million dollars now!" and it took me to your stoopid memoirs thread. You owe me a million dollars buster.

Oh, and in the words of someone wise that I once met once in a galaxy pretty damned close and not so far away ... "Being christian is no excuse for having bad taste in music".

I think you're the first person to ever ever ever click that link

...I've been thinking about changing it. Apperantly A Million Dollars isn't enough for some people...

On your second Paragraph: Absolutely Agree.

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-07-2006, 02:56 PM

I always assumed it was either a joke or a scam; turns out the latter was right.

hectorberlioz · 09-07-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

I always assumed it was either a joke or a scam; turns out the latter was right.

Scams are jokes, m'boy, it's just about who has a different sense of humour...you don't want one kind of humour do you? Don't you want diversity?

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-07-2006, 07:49 PM

No, scams are expensive jokes.

Curubethion · 09-07-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

I think you're the first person to ever ever ever click that link

...I've been thinking about changing it. Apperantly A Million Dollars isn't enough for some people...

Actually, I also clicked it...

Finrod Felagund · 09-20-2006, 11:59 PM

You know...I agree...while Christian Music hit a high in the '90s, recent stuff has been severely lacking.

I'm a dc Talk, Newsboys fan myself. I also enjoy some of the older stuff; Larry Norman, Keith Green.

Some more recent Christian Bands that I've enjoyed are Switchfoot and Relient K.

And talking about having bad taste in music...anyone heard Larry Norman's "Why Should The Devil Have All The Good Music"?, back in the day when many Christians still considered rock and roll "EVIL!"

03-24-2006, 03:44 PM	#41
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Well, if you're talking about RS James-style music, yeah there isn't much variation. But there's still good rock with creativity too. Switchfoot has a couple of really good ones...and I don't mean Stars, which has been overplayed to death on the radio. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

03-24-2006, 10:10 PM	#42
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03-24-2006, 10:44 PM	#43
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	They've got lots of good songs, although...a couple of them fall under the category that Hector's describing... __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

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09-05-2006, 05:16 PM	#45
Huorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Fangorn's Treeherd Posts: 393	For the most part I have to agree with Hector. Even Carman, which my husband likes a lot, gets boring. Some of his rythm devices just sound plain ugly because they are so mediocre. Steven Ray Boltz' voice is like fingernails on chalkboard. He doesn't even have proper voice control. I can tell by the harsh edge of his voice he is singing from his chest rather than his diapragm. Some of Christian Pop isn't mediocre, it is just plain bad. __________________ Silver Valley Oak As for me and my house we will serve the LORD Just call me Oakie

09-05-2006, 10:14 PM	#47
cee2lee2 Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 2nd star to the left..... Posts: 566	I'm not really up on music in general anymore and especially not CCM. Bruce Cockburn is an artist I've liked a lot in the past, who is christian but probably doesn't fall into what y'all are describing as CCM. One of the reasons I haven't spent much time listening to CCM is because of the sameness of the music. It's hard to tell the songs apart. Some of the young people at church told me about a local christian rock station which I've been listening to sporadically but they don't often mention who's singing, so I haven't got a clue who I'm listening to. Planning to check out some of the artists several of you have mentioned.

09-06-2006, 10:24 AM	#49
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	How about christian heavy metal? __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

09-06-2006, 10:35 PM	#52
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	*smacks hector I clicked your link where it says "win a million dollars now!" and it took me to your stoopid memoirs thread. You owe me a million dollars buster. Oh, and in the words of someone wise that I once met once in a galaxy pretty damned close and not so far away ... "Being christian is no excuse for having bad taste in music". __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

09-07-2006, 02:56 PM	#56
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I always assumed it was either a joke or a scam; turns out the latter was right. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-07-2006, 07:49 PM	#58
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	No, scams are expensive jokes. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

09-20-2006, 11:59 PM	#60
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	You know...I agree...while Christian Music hit a high in the '90s, recent stuff has been severely lacking. I'm a dc Talk, Newsboys fan myself. I also enjoy some of the older stuff; Larry Norman, Keith Green. Some more recent Christian Bands that I've enjoyed are Switchfoot and Relient K. And talking about having bad taste in music...anyone heard Larry Norman's "Why Should The Devil Have All The Good Music"?, back in the day when many Christians still considered rock and roll "EVIL!" __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!" Last edited by Finrod Felagund : 09-21-2006 at 12:01 AM.

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