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<edit beings> Woah, hey, I should have known you were trying to fool me, but that's what I get for not reading the article you linked. The article, if you meant this one here, is about injecting sulphuric acid into the atmosphere. The problem is not that they're trying to deal with climate change, the problem is that this is a really stupid idea. The answer to climate change is not more pollution. Sheesh. <edit ends> As for Creationism, there's nothing wrong at all about teaching this worldview in schools. Of course, it would be extremely out of place in a science class, but Humanities/Social Studies is a great place to discuss different world views.
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Yes, it's sad but true that the wave of ignorance is growing so high that teachers have to take valuable classroom time to counter it
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09-13-2008, 02:37 AM | #543 |
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Probably not in Britain, if you add up the anti-science numbers of both Muslim and Christian Fundamentalists.
And of course we must teach in geology classes the idea that the shoals and reefs connecting India to Sri Lanka were built by the Monkey Army under the command of Hanuman the Monkey God, to help Lord Rama rescue Sita. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1572638.ece I'm sure Sarah Palin and other advocates of "teach the controversy" would agree on that, yes?
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Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill Last edited by GrayMouser : 09-13-2008 at 02:39 AM. |
09-17-2008, 12:25 AM | #544 | |
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And speaking of senators who claim credit for creating new technology, John McCain claims he invented the Blackberry:
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And, BTW, Blackberry was invented by a Canadian company.
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09-17-2008, 11:20 AM | #545 |
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Yeah. Well, a lot of ignorant folk 'round here see Canada as 'our farm team.'
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Good for them!:
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http://www.catholicnews.com/data/sto...ns/0804713.htm The new pope seemed a bit shaky on this after JPII.
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09-28-2008, 09:44 AM | #547 |
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Oh, not so unusual or demanding......
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre Pretty original stuff!
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10-02-2008, 07:09 PM | #550 |
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Same for the religious fervor about "global warming" nee "climate change", BJ?
I keep saying it's the science and not the belief system about that, too. Nasty old ice core data and similar stuff! Nasssty old sun cycle data, Maunder minimum, fluctuating radiation levels, carbon sequestration data, et cetera!
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Sounds like you are the one "religiously" taking those claims as fact. A good scientist knows that it is all theory. Religious fervor is a fault of mankind, not a fault of science.
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10-03-2008, 03:26 PM | #552 |
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Is that determined or chosen, BJ?
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10-16-2008, 11:38 AM | #553 |
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How in the world did I miss this?
Oh, well, better late than never............ The ICE is BACK http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/glo.../19/73798.html and
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Too bad 90% of the world's glaciers are still shrinking, many at an alarming rate.
The ice may be back, but only in some places. To quote the same news website: http://www.newsmax.com/us/growing_gl...08/110961.html
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10-17-2008, 09:00 PM | #555 |
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Determined.
Choice is an illusion, though a persistant one.
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10-17-2008, 10:22 PM | #556 |
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Jonathan, I get the message that your link has expired. Want to re-post?
BJ, Ask the aborted fetus if choice is an illusion.
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Humans have never been very good judges of reality, so I would not ask them.
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Inked, probably you can't explain this to me, but I might get lucky.
Both the old and new testaments have signficant attention paid to sacrifice. Christ himself is supposed to be the perfect sacrifice, the gift that absolves Man of Sin. And he dies as the result of the death penalty, as it happens. I mean, it isn't enough, somehow for him to just cut his foot on a fishing float and die of a fever, although theoretically he could rise 3 days later, either way. He dies as an expression of Man's error, and in service to God's will. And I know Universalists are kinda thin on the ground here, so I won't attempt THAT question, today. But what makes people so sure, that if they could "ask an aborted fetus" something, that the fetus wouldn't say, "Naw, man, I'm cool with it. I volunteered for this incarnation, knowing I'd only be in utero 12 weeks, because the experience of deciding whether to keep me or not was an essential part of MaryAnn's salvation, and I wanted to help with that." It seems to me that sometimes people are very sure of answers when they know they'll never have a chance to test the hypothesis. (See, Earniel, it is a science post. )
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On another note Inked, I think you should be more sceptic of how Newsmax presents its facts. The articles on global warming seem very slanted. For instance, the article "Global Warming's Kaput; 2008 Coolest in 5 years" fails to mention that the 6 previous years are amongst the 7 hottest years on record. Also, 2008 will have a stronger El Niño (with its famous cooling effect) than the previous years. Still this year is likely to qualify for the top ten list of the hottest years. Pretty important information that's been left out, if the reader is supposed to assess whether the world is getting cooler or hotter. The article also quotes a guy who says the IPCC haven't included e.g. solar activity in their estimates. That statement can easily be rebuked by just a quick glance at the IPCC's assessment reports.
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SACA, I could answer you at length on the Theology thread, if you like. You cannot of course ask an aborted fetus anything because you have killed it for whatever reason you chose. (This is not thou/thee but the impersonal you plural, understood?) That is the point of the statement. You have irrevocably killed and cannot get a "what if". Now as to whether in the life to come such may be rendered whole and complete.......the theology thread, if you wish.
Jonathan, of course the article specified by me didn't give the other prior articles! I didn't give the subsequent ones, either. The data seem to flow alternatively between poles (pardon the pun).
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