Religious Knowledge Thread

[GrayMouser]

Also, the Church appoints a 'prosecuting attorney' to investigate the miracles and see if he can turn up any negative evidence- natural explanations, overhyping etc.

I don't know much about it, , this guy may be in the position of an overworked and outgunned public defender, but at least the Catholic Church makes the effort- good for them.

[Earniel]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
Mine is St. Rosalia.

I hope I'm not intruding here but I'm curious. I don't think I've heard of her before, why did she become a saint?

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Eärniel
I hope I'm not intruding here but I'm curious. I don't think I've heard of her before, why did she become a saint?

to tell you the truth, I only picked her because her Feast Day is the same day as my birthday September 4th. I was only 14 so I really didn't understand the significance it was supposed to have. Kind of a bad thing really. I've read about her briefly in a bunch of saints books but she is sometimes refered to as a legend....so possibly she might not have existed, in which case I would probably chose St. Rose of Lima because her feast day is September 3rd and it is also possible that those 2 became kind of the same person throughout the years, meaning that Rosalia was ofen refered to as Rose.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Thanks for your answers.

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
and no, once a person has chosen his or her Saint at Confirmation, they cannot change their Saint later in life. Usually the confirmed choses a saint to model his/her life after. Mine is St. Rosalia.

Rats! That means I'll have to wait until after Tolkien is canonized to convert.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Thanks for your answers.



Rats! That means I'll have to wait until after Tolkien is canonized to convert.

heheheh!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Well, he's already something of a patron saint. The more I learn about him, the more I am convinced that he's Canonization material.

[Earniel]

And what of the miracles? Were you cured after reading his book or something like that?

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Well, we'll just have to see what we can cook up.


Though drawing any Protestant to the Roman Church could be considered a miracle.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Well, we'll just have to see what we can cook up.


Though drawing any Protestant to the Roman Church could be considered a miracle.

perhaps

[Gwaimir Windgem]

We still need more miracles. Okay, Arien, Entlover, sun-star, and all other Catholics out there, start asking Tolkien to intercede with God for us!

[jerseydevil]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Well, he's already something of a patron saint. The more I learn about him, the more I am convinced that he's Canonization material.

Sorry to tell you this - but unless there are miracles that are atrributed to Tolkien - particularly at his gravesite (and no - conversions from protestant to Catholicism doesn't count) he will not be made a saint.

Steps to Sainthood

In the 10th century, Pope John XV developed an official canonisation procedure, which went through some revisions in the ensuing 1,000 years.

The process must begin five years after the candidate's death.

Local bishops investigate the life of the candidate and the findings are sent to the Vatican.

After approval by a panel of theologians and cardinals, the pope proclaims the candidate is "venerable," meaning a role model of Roman Catholic virtues.

The next step is beatification if it is determined by the church that the candidate is responsible for a miracle after his or her death.

Finally, for the designation of saint, the church must certify proof of a second posthumous miracle.

For a morte complete discription - look here...Canonization Process

For even more info - check out New Advent's Beatification and Canonization in their online Catholic Encyclopedia.

It's not just that the person was "good"

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Sorry to tell you this - but unless there are miracles that are atrributed to Tolkien - particularly at his gravesite (and no - conversions from protestant to Catholicism doesn't count) he will not be made a saint.

Yes, that's why we need miracles! I knew all along that miracles were required, I just wasn't sure what exactly.

It's not just that the person was "good"

Of course not; then there'd be way too many Saints!

[Silme*Christian]

Hello everyone, I am Silme. Please don't call me slime, I think it is very rude and disrespectful and I get enough of that at home and I don't need it here.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Hello, Silme! Did you want to join in the discussion, or did you have respectful questions about other religions to ask?

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I've a question for the Catholics/ex-Catholics of this board:

Why crucifixes, instead of crosses? It's not really something that I've thought abot before, but it suddenly occured to me that in my investigation of the Catholic faith, I have never seen where this is mentioned, and I was wondering if ye olde mooters could answer this question?

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I've a question for the Catholics/ex-Catholics of this board:

Why crucifixes, instead of crosses? It's not really something that I've thought abot before, but it suddenly occured to me that in my investigation of the Catholic faith, I have never seen where this is mentioned, and I was wondering if ye olde mooters could answer this question?

I read an aritlce in a Catholic newspaper that said that Cahtolics use the Crucifix because in general Catholicism is a very visual religion. We like to see the various people that we believe in. I know that Jesus said "blessed are those who have never seen but still believe". that still applies I think because none of has ever seen Jesus physically, unless He has revealed Himself to someone. But we think it important to look at the suffering that Christ endured for us....it shows how much he loved us. I think that the article said that protestants like to meditate/pray in front of a cross instead of a crucifx possibly because they don't like to carve images of God (keeping one of the Commandments I suppose) or they like to mentally choose their own picture of the suffering Jesus did for us. I'm not sure if the Protestant part is right.... so please I don't mean to offend anyone.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally posted by Arien the Maia
I think Uriel is mentioned in the Book of Enoch..I'm not positive though

Okay, I read some references to the Book of Enoch, and flipped through my newly acquired Catholic Bible (), but no Enoch book to be found... Wot's up with this, and where might I find it?

[Arien the Maia]

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Okay, I read some references to the Book of Enoch, and flipped through my newly acquired Catholic Bible (), but no Enoch book to be found... Wot's up with this, and where might I find it?

The book of Enoch is considered an Apocryphal book by the Church along with 3 and 4 Ezra, 3 and 4 Maccabees, Prayer f Manasses, and the Gospels of James and Thomas....there are more I think. the Catholics Churches Apocryphal books differ from Protestants who don't accept Tobit, Judith, Sirach, Baruch, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and parts of Ester and Daniel....all of these books are part of the Catholic Bible Canon.

[Arien the Maia]

When I was at Border's book store I saw a book in the Religion section that had all the books of the Bible plus all the Apocryphal books (Catholic and Protestant).....I forget what is what called but it was a big red book...hope that helps

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Thanks. I'll see if I can get my hands on it.

I also noticed the word "Deuterocanonicals" used a good deal, in regards to Bibles. What does this mean?