Discussion Thread Number 4 Of Wraiths-Kings-Friends-Rings Campaign

[CrazySquirrel]

OHH, been away for awhile and there is quite a LOT of GREAT posts!
Serenoli, Sane, TD, Sun, Udu and Gor!
Just read it!
TD what a story! How many orcs did Khamul kill? A thousand? And all single-handedly?
Tolvadok flirts, Marty turned to wisdom! NOOO! Oreturion drinking!

Sapthan, what a guy! Dungeons! Ghosts! I liked your new ghost, Gordis. Eeeevil Elendil! And the dwarf story. And Sapthan's worship of Morgoth.
So, now we are sleeping?
Tuesday approaching?

Now Khamul and Udu! WHAT ABOUT LILLY??? Have you decided anything?

Originally Posted by The last sane person

woot, i cant wait till the classes actually get under way and we van actually get some interaction going on!

No interaction for you, unfaithful Marthalion.

I thought you were enticed by LILLY!!! . Want some love potion, Marty, dearie? I will ask Gordie to get me some.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

About 1000, but it wasn't a straight battle, most were hunted.

As far as Lily goes we haven't decided anything for certain yet, but we are currently seeing somethings that may be suitable.

[Rían]

I think we might be done with Monday. It looks like the ML and his group are done. If Marty and Oreturion are done talking, then I think that's all - let's close down the day. What a long day! One of my elfs is wandering in the streets (armed and wary, of course) but he can just head back to bed if everyone else is ready to close the day down.

[Serenoli]

TD, what a brilliant post! I am very bad at doing dialogue, and I always like how you always do them well. And Khamul's story was very very good!

Sane and Sun, its good to see Marty and Oreturion again after such a break. I liked how you the writing styles of the two of you are similar, so there seems to be no break when going from one post to the other.

Udu, Sapthan is certainly intriguing. And what a truly horrifying description of those rituals... the very thought of all that blood and doing something like that to oneself... I'm still shuddering.

Gordis, its good you've given us a guided tour. I did see the map of the library, but I never really understood it very well. Nice ghostly touch... and what does the Chancellor do in his lab? Hopefully no blood sacrifices...

And, BB, come back.

[The last sane person]

Well, I try to adapt to other people's writing style when I have to use their characters. Little smoother that way.

[The last sane person]

Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

Tolvadok flirts, Marty turned to wisdom! NOOO! Oreturion drinking!

No interaction for you, unfaithful Marthalion.

I thought you were enticed by LILLY!!! . Want some love potion, Marty, dearie? I will ask Gordie to get me some.

Nay, tis true love, and Marty KNOWS what kind of woman Lilly is, he's been with em before! Mwahaha! And besides, good luck getting it to him, he is going sober! He will gladly be friends with Penny or somebody, but he is a cleaning up his act somewhat.

[Gordis]

Interesting post, Rian,. Whom to you plan to meet in the Gardens? Sapthan? Or the Chancellor? Aiwendis, I am afraid, will not be around.

[Rían]

No definite plans ... just some possibilities ... basically just wanted to portray an experienced fighter with instincts that are nudging him, and a loving brother and friend that has been deeply affected by the events in the last 24 hours and can't sleep. It's mostly the latter that is keeping him from sleeping (and that's a characteristic of mine - on eventful days, when I try to go to bed, I can't sleep because my mind is going a million miles a minute), but because of that, the former (nudges from his warrior side that unconsciously notices anomolies) is starting to come onto the radar screen.

Hey, talking about anomolies, I've written 2 short posts in a row!

[The last sane person]

yes, you are a border line rpg spammer! its official. 96 game play posts to your name!

[Gordis]

And what? Is that bad?

[Udukhaturz]

Originally Posted by Gordis

It looks like the Ulairi manage to conceal their power effectively. They fooled the King and Oreturion, and Rian and K, and almost fooled Earniel. I hope Sapthan feels nothing intoward. What do you think, Udu?

Gordis,

Other than a vague sense of uneasiness, Sapthan feels nothing untowards about the Ulairi.

[Lotesse]

Originally Posted by Gordis

And what? Is that bad?

Well, it IS a bit much, and sometimes a bit overwhelming. I suggested several times in the past that we all stick to one story post per 24 hours, to keep the playing field even, and to make it flow better and whatnot, but Rian didn't seem to be hip on the idea, and no one else seemed to have an opinion one way or the other.

[Udukhaturz]

Originally Posted by Gordis

Also, I found it ironic that Sapthan tries to weave a Dark spell against Khamul. He has no idea that the other is way up the food chain of Darkness, so to say. The spell may rebound on himself...

Gordis, Sapthân, unknowing of the nature of Khamûl, tries to use dark powers against his rival... should be interesting developments.

Originally Posted by Gordis

One little nitpick: it seems to me at the end of your post you mistakenly typed "library" instead of "palace". Sapthan lives in the palace, right above the Chancellor. So he meditates now near Aiwendis's fountain, it seems. Will he meet her??

I have corrected this. Sapthân is at the fountain south of the library, not Awiendis' fountain.

Originally Posted by Gordis

There is this ghost, the headless soldier. Isn't Sapthan afraid of him? No servant ventures in the garden at night, all are afraid. But perhaps Sapthan isn't? Maybe, if he seeks Dark Knowledge.

Sapthân would probably like to summon the ghost, but I do not think he has that kind of power...yet.

Originally Posted by Gordis

Something like a mixture of the Mouth of Sauron and Grima Wormtongue with a little addition of Daeron of Doriath to balance it.

Yes, now that you mention it, they do have things in common, but he is not based on any of them.

Originally Posted by Gordis

You are quite right, he is intimidated by the Chancellor for sure, though he can't guess the extent of his power, as the Chancellor is careful not to use any strong spells or do anything "unnatural". As for the two others, he has not really spoken to them, just assessed their appearance. I think he underestimated Khamul because he thought him a barbarian Easterling, lower in birth and learning than himself. Even if Galadannun is half-Numenorean, it is not good enough for Sapthan, as I see it. He is mistaken, of course, and very probably will pay for it...

Yes, Sapthân is intimidated by the chancellor, but Sapthân is very self-serving. If he can use the chancellor or anyone else to get that position of head librarian, he will. Just a nasty character.

[Gordis]

Ah, Udu, you are there!

There is an Elf spying in the University gardens. Sapthan is sitting right there near the fountain. Do you think Sapthan will approach Alagos and send him away, or he will let him spy? I don't think Sapthan likes elves anymore than any of the the Ulairi...

[Udukhaturz]

Originally Posted by Gordis

Ah, Udu, you are there!

There is an Elf spying in the University gardens. Sapthan is sitting right there near the fountain. Do you think Sapthan will approach Alagos and send him away, or he will let him spy? I don't think Sapthan likes elves anymore than any of the the Ulairi...

Gordis, Sapthân is at the fountain that fronts the library on the Bar Aran. He can go to the other fountain, though. I need clarification on this.

The link on the Formal Info Thread that goes to the class schedule no longer works. I really need that to do planning for the library tour on Tuesday. Can someone help?

[Lotesse]

Those are very cool posts, Gordis & Udu. So, our Morgul Lord can actually give a body to a ghost to use? That's such a cool concept; I'd never have thought of that. I like how ML used the dwarves of Moria, and then dispatched them so skillfully on their journey back, that was very professional. Also, I really enjoyed the description & tour of that dungeon, and the oh-so-creepy Sapthan doing his weird pagan dark-ritual stuff.

[Rían]

Originally Posted by Gordis

Ah, Udu, you are there!

There is an Elf spying in the University gardens. Sapthan is sitting right there near the fountain. Do you think Sapthan will approach Alagos and send him away, or he will let him spy? I don't think Sapthan likes elves anymore than any of the the Ulairi...

I didn't specify gardens, tho - I just said a tree. I thought there were several trees sprinkled around the grounds - is that right, or not? He's just very quietly angst-ing around; it's up to you guys if you want to meet him or not.

[Gordis]

Originally Posted by Udukhaturz

Gordis, Sapthân is at the fountain that fronts the library on the Bar Aran. He can go to the other fountain, though. I need clarification on this.

Choose any you like, Udu. I think the Library fountain is better. Sapthan is looking at the Library almost as his own property, while the other fountain is almost Aiwendis's personal one.

As for the Elf, he could be anywhere in the gardens. Rian is never very specific.

Originally Posted by Udukhaturz

The link on the Formal Info Thread that goes to the class schedule no longer works. I really need that to do planning for the library tour on Tuesday. Can someone help?

Sure, here it is:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-Dis/USAT6.jpg
I also have to post the Library plan into the INFO. I shall try to do it today.

[Udukhaturz]

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

I didn't specify gardens, tho - I just said a tree. I thought there were several trees sprinkled around the grounds - is that right, or not? He's just very quietly angst-ing around; it's up to you guys if you want to meet him or not.

Rian, there are several fountains on the university grounds. It seems like a number of people are trying to find them.

Originally Posted by Lotesse

Those are very cool posts, Gordis & Udu. So, our Morgul Lord can actually give a body to a ghost to use? That's such a cool concept; I'd never have thought of that. I like how ML used the dwarves of Moria, and then dispatched them so skillfully on their journey back, that was very professional. Also, I really enjoyed the description & tour of that dungeon, and the oh-so-creepy Sapthan doing his weird pagan dark-ritual stuff.

Lotesse, thanks! The implication of necromancy is strong in Tolkien's works, though not completely obvious. There is a detailed account in "Laws and Customs of the Eldar" that states that people can get possessed by the "hungry homeless fëar" that wander from time to time. This can be either co-occupancy (dual possession) of one body, or a complete takeover by the homeless one of a living person's hröa, sending the host's fëa fleeing bodiless. In that case, the fëa either wanders or goes to Mandos, and then to Eru if it is a human.

Corpses can be possessed by wandering spirits. This is the interpretation of what happened to the Hobbits in the Barrow Downs - evil spirits inhabiting the bodies of Dunedain.

Sapthân worries about things like that happening to him, but it does not keep him from trying to consult disembodied fëar.

[Gordis]

Originally Posted by Lotesse

Those are very cool posts, Gordis & Udu. So, our Morgul Lord can actually give a body to a ghost to use? That's such a cool concept; I'd never have thought of that. I like how ML used the dwarves of Moria, and then dispatched them so skillfully on their journey back, that was very professional. Also, I really enjoyed the description & tour of that dungeon, and the oh-so-creepy Sapthan doing his weird pagan dark-ritual stuff.

I agree with what Udu said, it is quite canonic. The only UNCLEAR thing as I see it, is whether what he said could be applicable to HUMAN fëar, or only to elven ones. Yes, an elven fëa can find a new body, all by itself. Perhaps a weaker human ghost can find a body with some external help? Then the Morgul Lord is just the right person to ask.

And yes, the dwarves... It is a long road to Moria, by Swanfleet (very dangerous place, and those Elves hate Dwarves), along the Glanduin and the Sirannon...

By the way,now that I think about it, it is VERY CLEVER that Serenoli made a Dwarf appear in Tharbad. The main road from Moria to the Blue Mountains passes through Tharbad. There should be a lot of travelling dwarves around! And this one, perhaps, he is a relative of those who rebuilt the Library, but never returned?