Classical Music - Page 27

Grey_Wolf · 05-17-2004, 01:28 PM

There is this classical piece which has been used in a sequence on Animal planet and now is used on a one-in-all toothpaste commericial (two people standing in an icecave throwing toothpaste on a canvas). It's very Vivaldiesk. If any knows what this piece is I would be grateful for info on it.

hectorberlioz · 05-17-2004, 02:37 PM

Vivaldi? probably from The Four Seasons

Grey_Wolf · 05-17-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Vivaldi? probably from The Four Seasons

It is his major piece so I wouldn't be surprised if this particular piece had been taken from them.

Mercutio · 05-23-2004, 08:23 PM

how did the thread get so far down on the page? so sad.

my oboe cd didn't come yet. The latest possible arrival date was 4 days ago. I emailed the guy but he didn't write back. Emailed very nicely too if I may say so. oh well. Its only $4, and I don't want to go through that long process to get it back.

hmm...the organ at our church is dead. We had some wet lightning which melted everything together. But that's an excuse to get a new one!!!!!!

except we need money. I doubt insurance will give us much.

And the composer of the week is....drum roll please... J.S. Bach!

What think you of him, the grandmaster of music?

jellyfishannah · 05-23-2004, 08:42 PM

I love Bach! I just discovered we have a piano book with lots of Bach peices in it.

hectorberlioz · 05-23-2004, 10:52 PM

Ach!
So mad! I ordered two Berlioz cds about a week ago, and they still havent been shipped! I contacted amazon about it, but they said that they were "still waiting for one of the cds to come in"....Come on people! you think I can live without Berlioz!

***Fat middle*** · 05-24-2004, 03:26 AM

Bach is simply the greatest!

I find his music flawless.

I usually listen a lot of his klavier music: the Goldberg Variations, the Six partitas, the six little partitas, the preludia, the Well Tempered Klavier...

All performed by Glenn Gould, who I think is an awesome Bach player.

All Bach music is awesome, but the best for me is his St. Mathew's Passion. Simply overwhelming

hectorberlioz · 05-24-2004, 02:07 PM

I love Bach! I dont have alot of his music though...
I have three of his orchestral suites, six brandenburg concertos, some organ works, and his greatest hits.

jellyfishannah · 05-24-2004, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Ach!
So mad! I ordered two Berlioz cds about a week ago, and they still havent been shipped! I contacted amazon about it, but they said that they were "still waiting for one of the cds to come in"....Come on people! you think I can live without Berlioz!

Hey, this belongs in the venting thread, Mr. President.

Mercutio · 05-24-2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
I love Bach! I dont have alot of his music though...
I have three of his orchestral suites, six brandenburg concertos, some organ works, and his greatest hits.

Greatest hits? Who chose them? What would they be composed of?

hectorberlioz · 05-27-2004, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mercutio
Greatest hits? Who chose them? What would they be composed of?

Music

Attencion!
Here is a list of Movies that use Berlioz music. There were alot of famous movies that I hadnt expected to be on there....

Berlioz et Cinema

BeardofPants · 05-27-2004, 10:09 PM

Oh Hector....! Which is the best format for Berlioz recordings? I don't just mean best symphonies, and such, but also best conductors. I'm sure you've mentioned it a gazillion times, so once more won't hurt.

edited out the blonde comment

hectorberlioz · 05-27-2004, 10:41 PM

format? well, go with cd format, if thats what you mean!

. best composers? lol, you mean, best conducors? lol...bit confused!

Hey what is this with Julia Roberts and Berlioz?

two movies (three if I overlooked

) with Berlioz and her!

Good Composers for Beginners

Berlioz

Mozart

Dvorak

Sibelius

Richard Strauss

Handel

Rachmaninov

Khachaturian

Tchaikovsky
( he was THE COMPOSER when I fell in love with classical. His music is what made me love classical the most

, with his ballets and the 1812 overture...now I'm a bit more critical of him

, and I feel guilty about that.)

BeardofPants · 05-27-2004, 11:43 PM

Hector, sorry, brain fell out, and I lost it yesterday. I still can't find it though I suspect that it's down someone's pants. Anyway, I mean who is the best Hector Berlioz comductor in your opinion. I've already got a whole bunch of cool stuff but no berlioz.

hectorberlioz · 05-28-2004, 11:17 PM

My brain fell out too last night, or I would have figured out what you were talking about

Ok, The Great Berliozian conductors are

Sir Colin Davis. He conducted and recorded all the main Berlioz works last year with the London Symphony Orchestra.
I reccomend This Recording of the Berlioz Requiem, conducted by Davis. I've listened to a few berlioz requiems, and the Davis one is still the best

.
Enter Charles Munch. His rendition of the Symphonie Fantastique is still considered the best, though the renditions by Riccardo Muti and Colin Davis are honorable competitors.

Enter John Eliot Gardiner, who (I think) is perhaps the greatest Berliozian of them all. With his Orchestra (they use period instruments!

) ans his very talented Monteverdi choir, he brings out the best performances.
Reccomended recordings:
Harold in Italy (2nd symphonie)

L'Enfance du Christ

Yet another Fantastique

Messe Solennelle

Romeo and Julliet (symphonie)

Ok, if you ever see Berlioz/Dutoit, let me assure you, Mr Dutoit is a very fine conductor. But never never never get This version of The Requiem. It not only borders heresy, it is heresy!

But This version of Fantastique is not to bad

, and quite a good deal, since along with it comes Lelio (A stage play/opera/symphony type thingie

), and Tristia; all very wonderful works

(what by Berlioz isnt?).

Ok, thats a great list there for begginners. If you ever want to get into the Berlioz operas, well, they're all there

. Davis conducts most versions.

hectorberlioz · 05-29-2004, 02:16 PM

I cant believe what a gem I've found.

Its almost entirely me!

Here
alot of what he says is biased. But then again, what wouldnt be when it come to musical tastes?
I would like to point out one subject he missed.
Rock doesnt inspire much imagination, its all formulatic and plastic.
but even the most formulatic stuff in classical still inspires imagination.

Mercutio · 05-29-2004, 08:01 PM

I just listened to some Bela Bartok (Hungarian/Romanian/Transylvanian music).

Absolutely love love love love love it!!!!!!!!!

BeardofPants · 05-29-2004, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mercutio
I just listened to some Bela Bartok (Hungarian/Romanian/Transylvanian music).

Absolutely love love love love love it!!!!!!!!!

I love Bartok's stuff. Fantastic stuff.

Quote:

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
Rock doesnt inspire much imagination, its all formulatic and plastic. ...

Would respectfully disagree. I assume the above statement is meant as your opinion ONLY?

hectorberlioz · 05-29-2004, 10:45 PM

of course

BeardofPants · 05-30-2004, 03:51 AM

After conferring with the BF on the merits of 'old' school conductors (munch et al), and the revolutionary conductor Gardiner (historical instruments), we'll probably go with the Munch recording. Actually, the BF wants to rashly spend more of his hard earned cash, so we'll probably get Gardiner as well.

05-17-2004, 02:37 PM	#522
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05-23-2004, 08:23 PM	#524
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	how did the thread get so far down on the page? so sad. my oboe cd didn't come yet. The latest possible arrival date was 4 days ago. I emailed the guy but he didn't write back. Emailed very nicely too if I may say so. oh well. Its only $4, and I don't want to go through that long process to get it back. hmm...the organ at our church is dead. We had some wet lightning which melted everything together. But that's an excuse to get a new one!!!!!! except we need money. I doubt insurance will give us much. And the composer of the week is....drum roll please... J.S. Bach! What think you of him, the grandmaster of music? __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries.

05-23-2004, 08:42 PM	#525
jellyfishannah Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Library, may it live forever!!! Posts: 269	I love Bach! I just discovered we have a piano book with lots of Bach peices in it. __________________ "Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much." ~Oscar Wilde "Don't tell lies you can't keep." ~My little sister...

05-23-2004, 10:52 PM	#526
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Ach! So mad! I ordered two Berlioz cds about a week ago, and they still havent been shipped! I contacted amazon about it, but they said that they were "still waiting for one of the cds to come in"....Come on people! you think I can live without Berlioz! __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

05-24-2004, 03:26 AM	#527
*Fat middle* Mootis per forum Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Spain Posts: 61,439	Bach is simply the greatest! I find his music flawless. I usually listen a lot of his klavier music: the Goldberg Variations, the Six partitas, the six little partitas, the preludia, the Well Tempered Klavier... All performed by Glenn Gould, who I think is an awesome Bach player. All Bach music is awesome, but the best for me is his St. Mathew's Passion. Simply overwhelming __________________ Do not be hasty. That is my motto. Now we'll have a drink and go to the Entmoot.

05-17-2004, 01:28 PM	#521
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	There is this classical piece which has been used in a sequence on Animal planet and now is used on a one-in-all toothpaste commericial (two people standing in an icecave throwing toothpaste on a canvas). It's very Vivaldiesk. If any knows what this piece is I would be grateful for info on it.

05-24-2004, 02:07 PM	#528
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	I love Bach! I dont have alot of his music though... I have three of his orchestral suites, six brandenburg concertos, some organ works, and his greatest hits. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

05-27-2004, 10:09 PM	#532
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Oh Hector....! Which is the best format for Berlioz recordings? I don't just mean best symphonies, and such, but also best conductors. I'm sure you've mentioned it a gazillion times, so once more won't hurt. edited out the blonde comment __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords Last edited by BeardofPants : 05-27-2004 at 11:41 PM.

05-27-2004, 10:41 PM	#533
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	format? well, go with cd format, if thats what you mean!. best composers? lol, you mean, best conducors? lol...bit confused! Hey what is this with Julia Roberts and Berlioz? two movies (three if I overlooked) with Berlioz and her! Good Composers for Beginners Berlioz Mozart Dvorak Sibelius Richard Strauss Handel Rachmaninov Khachaturian Tchaikovsky ( he was THE COMPOSER when I fell in love with classical. His music is what made me love classical the most, with his ballets and the 1812 overture...now I'm a bit more critical of him, and I feel guilty about that.) __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide Last edited by hectorberlioz : 05-27-2004 at 11:11 PM.

05-27-2004, 11:43 PM	#534
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Hector, sorry, brain fell out, and I lost it yesterday. I still can't find it though I suspect that it's down someone's pants. Anyway, I mean who is the best Hector Berlioz comductor in your opinion. I've already got a whole bunch of cool stuff but no berlioz. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

05-28-2004, 11:17 PM	#535
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	My brain fell out too last night, or I would have figured out what you were talking about Ok, The Great Berliozian conductors are Sir Colin Davis. He conducted and recorded all the main Berlioz works last year with the London Symphony Orchestra. I reccomend This Recording of the Berlioz Requiem, conducted by Davis. I've listened to a few berlioz requiems, and the Davis one is still the best. Enter Charles Munch. His rendition of the Symphonie Fantastique is still considered the best, though the renditions by Riccardo Muti and Colin Davis are honorable competitors. Enter John Eliot Gardiner, who (I think) is perhaps the greatest Berliozian of them all. With his Orchestra (they use period instruments!) ans his very talented Monteverdi choir, he brings out the best performances. Reccomended recordings: Harold in Italy (2nd symphonie) L'Enfance du Christ Yet another Fantastique Messe Solennelle Romeo and Julliet (symphonie) Ok, if you ever see Berlioz/Dutoit, let me assure you, Mr Dutoit is a very fine conductor. But never never never get This version of The Requiem. It not only borders heresy, it is heresy! But This version of Fantastique is not to bad, and quite a good deal, since along with it comes Lelio (A stage play/opera/symphony type thingie ), and Tristia; all very wonderful works (what by Berlioz isnt?). Ok, thats a great list there for begginners. If you ever want to get into the Berlioz operas, well, they're all there. Davis conducts most versions. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide Last edited by hectorberlioz : 05-28-2004 at 11:53 PM.

05-29-2004, 02:16 PM	#536
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	I cant believe what a gem I've found. Its almost entirely me! Here alot of what he says is biased. But then again, what wouldnt be when it come to musical tastes? I would like to point out one subject he missed. Rock doesnt inspire much imagination, its all formulatic and plastic. but even the most formulatic stuff in classical still inspires imagination. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide Last edited by hectorberlioz : 05-29-2004 at 03:11 PM.

05-29-2004, 08:01 PM	#537
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	I just listened to some Bela Bartok (Hungarian/Romanian/Transylvanian music). Absolutely love love love love love it!!!!!!!!! __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries.

05-29-2004, 10:45 PM	#539
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	of course __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

05-30-2004, 03:51 AM	#540
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	After conferring with the BF on the merits of 'old' school conductors (munch et al), and the revolutionary conductor Gardiner (historical instruments), we'll probably go with the Munch recording. Actually, the BF wants to rashly spend more of his hard earned cash, so we'll probably get Gardiner as well. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

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