Trivia - Page 27

Lizra · 11-05-2002, 10:34 PM

Wow! You are "The Speedy Lady of Ithilien"! An arrow wound.......Your go!

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-06-2002, 10:32 AM

I don't know about "swift," as I constantly get error messages when I try to log on, having left out an "i" in Ithilien

, but "speedy" is OK. So . . . Z-O-O-O-O-O-O-M: In Bilbo's front hall at Bag End is the door bell itself closer to the clock or to the umbrella stand?

Ms. Undomial · 11-06-2002, 12:36 PM

Umbrella stand?

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-06-2002, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Umbrella stand?

Hmmm -- I just spotted a weak spot in my question: it can be answered by default, if it's not the umbrella stand (and it's not -- it's closer to the clock). Well, Bilbo got away with asking an unorthodox question in the Riddle Game; maybe I can get away with rephrasing my question?

Rephrased question, if acceptable to everybody, with a clue: Where exactly is the doorbell itself located in Bilbo's front hall, if one is standing in the hall facing the front door? (Hint: It's not "close to the clock" or "far from the umbrella stand.")

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-06-2002, 04:16 PM

...doesn't anyone else have an illustrated Hobbit?

Radagast The Brown · 11-08-2002, 03:35 PM

I don't know. sorry.

barrelrider110 · 11-08-2002, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Lady of Ithilien
Hmmm -- I just spotted a weak spot in my question: it can be answered by default, if it's not the umbrella stand (and it's not -- it's closer to the clock). Well, Bilbo got away with asking an unorthodox question in the Riddle Game; maybe I can get away with rephrasing my question?

Rephrased question, if acceptable to everybody, with a clue: Where exactly is the doorbell itself located in Bilbo's front hall, if one is standing in the hall facing the front door? (Hint: It's not "close to the clock" or "far from the umbrella stand.")

I don't have an illustrated Hobbit, however I looked up JRR Tolkien's sketch of Bag End, and I do see a clock, an umbrella stand, and a doorbell.

If one is standing in the hall and facing the front door, the doorbell is hanging from the cieling on the right hand side.

Is that the answer you were looking for?

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-08-2002, 05:20 PM

And a thousand apologies to all for assuming that every edition of The Hobbit is illustrated.

Your turn, barrelrider110.

Lizra · 11-09-2002, 09:13 PM

Callingbarrel Rider 110! Ask a question please!

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-12-2002, 10:24 AM

Hmmm--perhaps he's been nabbed by River Elves and roped into an unwanted journey downstream.

May it not be a long one!

In the meanwhile pending his return, I suppose it defaults back to me again. No illustrations this time, I promise. This sounds like a wise question but isn't:

How many dwarves does it take to cross an enchanted stream?

Agburanar · 11-12-2002, 11:47 AM

That reminds me of a joke...

How many dwarves does it take to change a lightbulb?

It depends how high the ceiling is!!!!

Ok, that's not very good.

It takes one to spot the boat and eleven to cross tje river carrying the twelfth. (If it's the river in Mirkwood, if it's a normal river it depends how deep the river is!!!)

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-12-2002, 03:59 PM

Oh no, that's not it at all.

Radagast The Brown · 11-12-2002, 04:05 PM

ammm.... 8 dwarves?

Ms. Undomial · 11-12-2002, 04:11 PM

was it 13?

zavron · 11-12-2002, 04:12 PM

how about a 104.

Radagast The Brown · 11-12-2002, 04:14 PM

zavron, that's not so funny.

barrelrider110 · 11-12-2002, 04:18 PM

I'm back from my journey downstream.

This is another good question that required some research, i.e., I had to look it up.

Fili threw the rope;
Kili and Oin and Gloin helped him to haul it back in;
Balin stopped the boat from floating away in the current.

Therefore if my count is correct, the answer is five.

The Lady of Ithilien · 11-12-2002, 08:44 PM

Welcome back, barrelrider 110! Did you bring any goodies back?

This is a tough one to call. I counted six named in the book:

1 -- Fili to throw the hooks;
3 -- Kili, Oin and Gloin to haul the boat back (and collapse comically when it came loose);
1 -- unnamed by Fili, in the first lot that went over, to haul on the rope and bring them across;
1 -- unnamed by Fili but"one of the others" in the first lot to hook the second rope onto the boat so it could be hauled back.

Of course, that wasn't the end of it logically. Correct me if I'm missing any steps in the process, but it would take another dwarf to haul the boat back, and either the same dwarf or another from the second group to then haul them across, which brings the count up to seven or eight.

But then the process would have to be repeated for Dwalin and Bombur, adding another dwarf (we can probably safely assume Bombur didn't do any hauling), so we have eight or nine.

I didn't count Balin's fending off the boat, as it wasn't an integral part of the process.

Well, it's debatable, but will stick with six as the number clearly mentioned in the book. However, barrelrider110 is due a turn, so I'll bow out. Your go, sir!

barrelrider110 · 11-13-2002, 09:18 AM

Thank you, M'Lady

Who first suggested to Thorin to share the treasure under the mountain with the lake men and elves?

Lizra · 11-13-2002, 01:48 PM

Dain? No, the thrush....Just guessing

11-05-2002, 10:34 PM	#521
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11-06-2002, 12:36 PM	#523
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	Umbrella stand? __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune

11-06-2002, 04:16 PM	#525
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	Er... ...doesn't anyone else have an illustrated Hobbit? Last edited by The Lady of Ithilien : 11-08-2002 at 10:10 AM.

11-08-2002, 03:35 PM	#526
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I don't know. sorry. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-08-2002, 05:20 PM	#528
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	YES!! And a thousand apologies to all for assuming that every edition of The Hobbit is illustrated. Your turn, barrelrider110.

11-06-2002, 10:32 AM	#522
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	I don't know about "swift," as I constantly get error messages when I try to log on, having left out an "i" in Ithilien , but "speedy" is OK. So . . . *Z-O-O-O-O-O-O-M:* In Bilbo's front hall at Bag End is the door bell itself closer to the clock or to the umbrella stand?

11-09-2002, 09:13 PM	#529
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Callingbarrel Rider 110! Ask a question please! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

11-12-2002, 10:24 AM	#530
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	Hmmm--perhaps he's been nabbed by River Elves and roped into an unwanted journey downstream. May it not be a long one! In the meanwhile pending his return, I suppose it defaults back to me again. No illustrations this time, I promise. This sounds like a wise question but isn't: How many dwarves does it take to cross an enchanted stream?

11-12-2002, 11:47 AM	#531
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	That reminds me of a joke... How many dwarves does it take to change a lightbulb? It depends how high the ceiling is!!!! Ok, that's not very good. It takes one to spot the boat and eleven to cross tje river carrying the twelfth. (If it's the river in Mirkwood, if it's a normal river it depends how deep the river is!!!) __________________ I would wish, were it to any avail, that the LORD OF THE RINGS FILMS had never been wrought. ROLLING STOCK, WE'RE ROLLING STOCK!!

11-12-2002, 03:59 PM	#532
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	Oh no, that's not it at all.

11-12-2002, 04:05 PM	#533
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	ammm.... 8 dwarves? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-12-2002, 04:11 PM	#534
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	was it 13? __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune

11-12-2002, 04:12 PM	#535
zavron Chieftain of The Order of The Blue Flame Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: I am a Figment of your Imagination!!! OOOHHHH!!! Posts: 1,729	how about a 104. __________________ Visit http://nilore.suddenlaunch2.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''ASH NAZG DUBARTULUK, ASH NAZG GIMBATUL, ASH NAZG THRAKATULUK AGH BURZUM--ISHI KRIMPATUL...ash nazg, ash nazg......'' ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gil- galad was an elven king. Of him the harpers sadly sing: the last whose realm was fair and free between the mountains and the sea. His sword was long, his lance was keen, his shinig helm afar was seen; the countless stars of heaven's field were mirrored in his silver shield. But long ago he rode away, and where he dwelleth none can say; for into darkness fell his star in mordor where the shadows are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

11-12-2002, 04:14 PM	#536
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	zavron, that's not so funny. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

11-12-2002, 04:18 PM	#537
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	I'm back from my journey downstream. This is another good question that required some research, i.e., I had to look it up. Fili threw the rope; Kili and Oin and Gloin helped him to haul it back in; Balin stopped the boat from floating away in the current. Therefore if my count is correct, the answer is five. __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling

11-12-2002, 08:44 PM	#538
The Lady of Ithilien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right here in between yesterday and tomorrow. Posts: 357	Welcome back, barrelrider 110! Did you bring any goodies back? This is a tough one to call. I counted six named in the book: 1 -- Fili to throw the hooks; 3 -- Kili, Oin and Gloin to haul the boat back (and collapse comically when it came loose); 1 -- unnamed by Fili, in the first lot that went over, to haul on the rope and bring them across; 1 -- unnamed by Fili but"one of the others" in the first lot to hook the second rope onto the boat so it could be hauled back. Of course, that wasn't the end of it logically. Correct me if I'm missing any steps in the process, but it would take another dwarf to haul the boat back, and either the same dwarf or another from the second group to then haul them across, which brings the count up to seven or eight. But then the process would have to be repeated for Dwalin and Bombur, adding another dwarf (we can probably safely assume Bombur didn't do any hauling), so we have eight or nine. I didn't count Balin's fending off the boat, as it wasn't an integral part of the process. Well, it's debatable, but will stick with six as the number clearly mentioned in the book. However, barrelrider110 is due a turn, so I'll bow out. Your go, sir!

11-13-2002, 09:18 AM	#539
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	Thank you, M'Lady Who first suggested to Thorin to share the treasure under the mountain with the lake men and elves? __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling

11-13-2002, 01:48 PM	#540
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Dain? No, the thrush....Just guessing __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

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