"Temporary" Venting Thread II - Page 27

***Earniel*** · 10-04-2006, 05:34 PM

Elections next week. Bleh. Why does it always feel -even with four parties- that there isn't one decent choice among them? *mutter mutter*

***Tessar*** · 10-04-2006, 07:08 PM

*drags carcass in*

So... tired.

Spent 5 hours last night getting my new wireless router set up, and made five tech support calls. Using a little data from each call, I finally figured it out myself.

Then I stayed up till three thirty a.m. trying to make sure it was secure.

Then I had to get up at 7 for classes, and to teach.

so... freaking... exhausted.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 10-04-2006, 07:12 PM

i got work in the morning but my trousers still aren't dry, and i wanna get my clothes ironed before i go bed - if they aint done by 1 i am gonna go bed anyway, and hope i have enough time to do it all in the morning

Nerdanel · 10-04-2006, 07:56 PM

I guess this is a pre-vent.. I'm a bit worried about close-minded reactions from my parents' and perhaps also some friends' sides when I tell them about moving and travelling over Christmas.. Though I will understand mum if she freaks out.

Another vent: money.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 10-04-2006, 07:58 PM

money's a good vent - on a related topic, more than a week till payday, grarr

Grey_Wolf · 10-05-2006, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Elections next week. Bleh. Why does it always feel -even with four parties- that there isn't one decent choice among them? *mutter mutter*

Elections is a fourletterword for me - as I posted a while ago here...

Im of the opinion that Sweden is the most Overpoliticized country in the whole world - for the last 12 years Oldspapers, radio and tv have been nagging about the forthcoming election - the mere word makes me cringe - and then we have the one-item-at-a time mentality of the Establishment which I find even more annoying - Ive stopped reading the papers, listening to the radio and watching tv (that is the Swedish state-run tv and radio) - and don't get me started on the corps of the Journalists who have all graduated from the Communist High School (really called the Journalist High School). Im sick and tired of it all - Next to Cuba, North Korea and China Sweden comes a close fourth in the list of politicomaniacal countries.

katya · 10-05-2006, 12:13 PM

I can't remember my password for my account on the cell phone company website. I remember kind of how it went but I can't remember the last word of it. And I can't get it either because they want me to answer my security question. "Favourite pastime?" I remember I put something weird but I can't remember what. It's silly.

Gwaimir Windgem · 10-05-2006, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Elections next week. Bleh. Why does it always feel -even with four parties- that there isn't one decent choice among them? *mutter mutter*

I knows the feelin'. *comforts Earniel*

Serenoli · 10-05-2006, 12:47 PM

Well, we have elections in six months... and I think I'll never hear the end of it.

stooopid politicians, even a hindi drama serial is less drama-queen than them.

hectorberlioz · 10-05-2006, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serenoli

Well, we have elections in six months... and I think I'll never hear the end of it.

stooopid politicians, even a hindi drama serial is less drama-queen than them.

You got that right!

*pats Serenoli on the back...* I don't know how long your elections last, but ours seem to be constant!

My gripe? Money; long time no see...or at least, very little

Rosie Gamgee · 10-05-2006, 01:14 PM

Vent: I might have to work Saturday. My boss screwed up a while back, and now we all have to pay for his mistake, while he gets mad because it isn't happening fast enough. Nice.

***Earniel*** · 10-05-2006, 04:28 PM

*WARNING: Political rant ensuing, you may have more interesting things to read elsewhere. I have a bias against politicians and it shows.*

It's bad enough that there isn't even one election programme I completely or even half agree with. It's really rather worse that attempts at picking a marginally less than bad politician is only a smaller problem of the whole election.

The big problem is gonna come when the votes get counted and OMG the Vlaams Belang party has won more voters again. Never mind they have been doing that the last few years, but you can reckon the self-named democratic parties are going to act all OGM!shocked and aghast because they really spent a lot of time bashing that party and their voters, and you'd think that ought to do the trick.

Really, it's not like it's news that the Flemish like going for the underdog. And pretending that the one million people voted for the Vlaams Belang are intolerant and extreme right is really very childish. How old are you anyway? What do you hope to achieve by insulting one million voters exactly? Just because they didn't vote for you? Waawaa, cry me a river. I know the idea that people are tired of your less-than-perfect-rule is shocking, yes I know, but there you have it. Protest-votes may not always be a great idea but that doesn't mean they don't exist, smart-ass.

Heck, you lot are the best advertising Vlaams Belang can ask for. Don't come complaining later. And really, knock it off with implicating that everybody who even marginally defends the Vlaams Belang are intolerant bastards. It's very stupid of you to think that fighting intolerance by being very intolerant to others is the right thing to do. Bloody idiots.

MangoPi · 10-05-2006, 06:21 PM

You what I hate?

Really Long Shoe laces. Becuase you step on them and they come untied and then you tie them over and over and over and ....AUGH!!!!

And now back to your regularly scheduled more intelligent political dicussion!

Gwaimir Windgem · 10-05-2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

*WARNING: Political rant ensuing, you may have more interesting things to read elsewhere. I have a bias against politicians and it shows.*

*high-five*

trolls' bane · 10-05-2006, 10:50 PM

(Three-Day Late) Vent: I guess we all have those days we wish we had stayed in bed.

Monday was terrible. Among other things, I found my Pickett 80 Slide-rule broken. You know, the forty-some-odd-year-old antique my grandpa gave me? Snapped in half. No clue how it happened. I'm going to take the pieces and keep them on a stand sometime in the future. Like the shards of Narsil. Unfortunately, plastic can't just be put back together.

Spock · 10-06-2006, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

*WARNING: .

I was thinking "what is she doing up so eary" and then remembered the time zone difference

.

Gotta remember that.

I suppose it's easier to wield your magic wand of power at that time too as most of the colony members are still asleep.

Nerdanel · 10-09-2006, 07:14 PM

Jealousy. If you really love someone, how can you be jealous of this them? There are people in this world that I love more than myself: if good things happen to them, I'm happy for them. Even if these people wouldn't be in my life anymore, I'd be happy for them. I'd be happier that these things happen to them than I'd be if they'd happen to me, because I love them more than myself. Being jealous is nothing but selfishness: I do know we all are selfish, and need to be so in order to survive and get something done, but I wish there would be limits.. Jealousy never has any good consequences.

Hate. All the time I hear people saying that they 'hate' something. Do people realize what hate is? Do they know what an extreme, strong feeling hate is? I know it is a feeling that is real, and I know people feel it; but I believe the word is too swiftly used to describe disliking or something that just is uncomfortable. Personally, partially because of the exaggerated use of the word, I've stopped using it. Hate never has any good consequences.

Selfishness. Yes, I know. We need to be selfish to survive, we need to be selfish to have a good life. Giving up everything for other people is not wise. But not even biologically/scientifically can it be justified to be completely selfish. We are social animals, and as in all social organisms, some level of self-sacrifice can actually increase our fitness (how much of us/our genes is passed on to the following generations).
The only thing we own is ourselves. No one has the right to claim that they own another person; no one can stop another one from living their lives as they want. Jealousy is very close to selfishness: (paricularly) selfish persons are often jealous aswell.

Ignorance. It's one thing not to have heard about something: it's another thing to not be willing to find out more about it. There is no chance that one person can know everything, so we're all ignorant. But choosing to stay ignorant is something I cannot understand. To learn is to develop, to learn is to live, to learn is to make progress, move onward. To ignore facts or choose not to find out, is to stop living, it's to stay where you are, in a small box, far from reality. Just because some facts are hard to take, we shouldn't ignore them: that never has any good consequences. Knowledge also involves to ability to be critical: to not just accept something that is told, no matter who tells it, but questioning. It also involves knowing the point where being critical crosses reasonable lines. We need to accept some "truths" to be able to move forward: like René Descartes accepted that he actually exists after pondering for some time. Before he was sure of that, he couldn't draw any other conclusions.

Killing people because of their opinions. Not only people, and not just because of that reason. But this particular reason is exceptionally topical right now, after the killing of the Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya, who openly critizised Kremls actions in Chechnya. Link

***Rían*** · 10-09-2006, 10:44 PM

Nel - those are excellent vents!!

TB - sorry about the slide rule - I have memories of my dad using his, and it would be a fun family memento. I like the Narsil idea!

FrogGirl - Politics?!?!! *runs away screaming*

and now my small little vent - I'm speaking to a group of 100 ladies tomorrow, and it's always very scary for me to speak ...

and I don't even have my talk typed up yet! (But I pretty much know what I want to speak on.)

Gwaimir Windgem · 10-09-2006, 11:20 PM

Wow, Ri! What's this little get-together about?

hectorberlioz · 10-10-2006, 08:59 PM

Anyone remember my vent about the gal at church who wouldn't talk to me and/or give my stuff back?

Well it still isn't solved!

Reason I won't ask her: going to asking for my stuff back from seeing her every sunday, and ignoring her every sunday is quite a jump. She'll think that's all I care about.

10-04-2006, 05:34 PM	#521
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Elections next week. Bleh. Why does it always feel -even with four parties- that there isn't one decent choice among them? mutter mutter __________________ We are not things.

10-04-2006, 07:56 PM	#524
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	I guess this is a pre-vent.. I'm a bit worried about close-minded reactions from my parents' and perhaps also some friends' sides when I tell them about moving and travelling over Christmas.. Though I will understand mum if she freaks out. Another vent: money. __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

10-05-2006, 12:47 PM	#529
Serenoli Head of the Department for the Invention and Propagation of Sugar, Spice and Everything Nice! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ithilien Posts: 852	Well, we have elections in six months... and I think I'll never hear the end of it. stooopid politicians, even a hindi drama serial is less drama-queen than them. __________________ "I meant," said Ipslore bitterly, "what is there in this world that truly makes living worthwhile?" Death thought about it. "Cats," he said eventually. "Cats are nice." -Terry Pratchett, Sourcery Join the Harry Potter discussion, click here

10-05-2006, 01:14 PM	#531
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	Vent: I might have to work Saturday. My boss screwed up a while back, and now we all have to pay for his mistake, while he gets mad because it isn't happening fast enough. Nice. __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

10-05-2006, 04:28 PM	#532
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	WARNING: Political rant ensuing, you may have more interesting things to read elsewhere. I have a bias against politicians and it shows. It's bad enough that there isn't even one election programme I completely or even half agree with. It's really rather worse that attempts at picking a marginally less than bad politician is only a smaller problem of the whole election. The big problem is gonna come when the votes get counted and OMG the Vlaams Belang party has won more voters again. Never mind they have been doing that the last few years, but you can reckon the self-named democratic parties are going to act all OGM!shocked and aghast because they really spent a lot of time bashing that party and their voters, and you'd think that ought to do the trick. Really, it's not like it's news that the Flemish like going for the underdog. And pretending that the one million people voted for the Vlaams Belang are intolerant and extreme right is really very childish. How old are you anyway? What do you hope to achieve by insulting one million voters exactly? Just because they didn't vote for you? Waawaa, cry me a river. I know the idea that people are tired of your less-than-perfect-rule is shocking, yes I know, but there you have it. Protest-votes may not always be a great idea but that doesn't mean they don't exist, smart-ass. Heck, you lot are the best advertising Vlaams Belang can ask for. Don't come complaining later. And really, knock it off with implicating that everybody who even marginally defends the Vlaams Belang are intolerant bastards. It's very stupid of you to think that fighting intolerance by being very intolerant to others is the right thing to do. Bloody idiots. __________________ We are not things.

10-04-2006, 07:08 PM	#522
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	drags carcass in So... tired. Spent 5 hours last night getting my new wireless router set up, and made five tech support calls. Using a little data from each call, I finally figured it out myself. Then I stayed up till three thirty a.m. trying to make sure it was secure. Then I had to get up at 7 for classes, and to teach. so... freaking... exhausted.

10-04-2006, 07:12 PM	#523
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i got work in the morning but my trousers still aren't dry, and i wanna get my clothes ironed before i go bed - if they aint done by 1 i am gonna go bed anyway, and hope i have enough time to do it all in the morning

10-04-2006, 07:58 PM	#525
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	money's a good vent - on a related topic, more than a week till payday, grarr

10-05-2006, 12:13 PM	#527
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	I can't remember my password for my account on the cell phone company website. I remember kind of how it went but I can't remember the last word of it. And I can't get it either because they want me to answer my security question. "Favourite pastime?" I remember I put something weird but I can't remember what. It's silly.

10-05-2006, 06:21 PM	#533
MangoPi Enting Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Head in hands. Posts: 51	You what I hate? Really Long Shoe laces. Becuase you step on them and they come untied and then you tie them over and over and over and ....AUGH!!!! And now back to your regularly scheduled more intelligent political dicussion! __________________ You're only given a little spark of madness. You mustn't lose it. --Robin Williams Narlyë nat vanya!

10-05-2006, 10:50 PM	#535
trolls' bane Entmoot Secretary of the Treasury Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Campsite-by-Giraffe Posts: 5,408	(Three-Day Late) Vent: I guess we all have those days we wish we had stayed in bed. Monday was terrible. Among other things, I found my Pickett 80 Slide-rule broken. You know, the forty-some-odd-year-old antique my grandpa gave me? Snapped in half. No clue how it happened. I'm going to take the pieces and keep them on a stand sometime in the future. Like the shards of Narsil. Unfortunately, plastic can't just be put back together. __________________ KI6PFA Amateur Radio Operator

10-09-2006, 07:14 PM	#537
Nerdanel Spammer of the Happy Thread Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 3,512	Jealousy. If you really love someone, how can you be jealous of this them? There are people in this world that I love more than myself: if good things happen to them, I'm happy for them. Even if these people wouldn't be in my life anymore, I'd be happy for them. I'd be happier that these things happen to them than I'd be if they'd happen to me, because I love them more than myself. Being jealous is nothing but selfishness: I do know we all are selfish, and need to be so in order to survive and get something done, but I wish there would be limits.. Jealousy never has any good consequences. Hate. All the time I hear people saying that they 'hate' something. Do people realize what hate is? Do they know what an extreme, strong feeling hate is? I know it is a feeling that is real, and I know people feel it; but I believe the word is too swiftly used to describe disliking or something that just is uncomfortable. Personally, partially because of the exaggerated use of the word, I've stopped using it. Hate never has any good consequences. Selfishness. Yes, I know. We need to be selfish to survive, we need to be selfish to have a good life. Giving up everything for other people is not wise. But not even biologically/scientifically can it be justified to be completely selfish. We are social animals, and as in all social organisms, some level of self-sacrifice can actually increase our fitness (how much of us/our genes is passed on to the following generations). The only thing we own is ourselves. No one has the right to claim that they own another person; no one can stop another one from living their lives as they want. Jealousy is very close to selfishness: (paricularly) selfish persons are often jealous aswell. Ignorance. It's one thing not to have heard about something: it's another thing to not be willing to find out more about it. There is no chance that one person can know everything, so we're all ignorant. But choosing to stay ignorant is something I cannot understand. To learn is to develop, to learn is to live, to learn is to make progress, move onward. To ignore facts or choose not to find out, is to stop living, it's to stay where you are, in a small box, far from reality. Just because some facts are hard to take, we shouldn't ignore them: that never has any good consequences. Knowledge also involves to ability to be critical: to not just accept something that is told, no matter who tells it, but questioning. It also involves knowing the point where being critical crosses reasonable lines. We need to accept some "truths" to be able to move forward: like René Descartes accepted that he actually exists after pondering for some time. Before he was sure of that, he couldn't draw any other conclusions. Killing people because of their opinions. Not only people, and not just because of that reason. But this particular reason is exceptionally topical right now, after the killing of the Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya, who openly critizised Kremls actions in Chechnya. Link __________________ "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. " - C. Sagan My (photography) website My Flickr page

10-09-2006, 10:44 PM	#538
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Nel - those are excellent vents!! TB - sorry about the slide rule - I have memories of my dad using his, and it would be a fun family memento. I like the Narsil idea! FrogGirl - Politics?!?!! runs away screaming and now my small little vent - I'm speaking to a group of 100 ladies tomorrow, and it's always very scary for me to speak ... and I don't even have my talk typed up yet! (But I pretty much know what I want to speak on.) __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

10-09-2006, 11:20 PM	#539
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Wow, Ri! What's this little get-together about? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

10-10-2006, 08:59 PM	#540
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Anyone remember my vent about the gal at church who wouldn't talk to me and/or give my stuff back? Well it still isn't solved! Reason I won't ask her: going to asking for my stuff back from seeing her every sunday, and ignoring her every sunday is quite a jump. She'll think that's all I care about. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide