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#3 is similar to mine, but it does not spell out the scientific method as mine does... which is exactly what evolution is based on... observation (of current evolution on a small scale), hypothesis (projecting this onto a larger scale) and prediction (of how organisms may change over time)
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there is no tested,conclusive, result of an evolution model, you have ideas and theorys, but so do ID'ers. we have observed mutations and interspecies changes, but nothing that points to people coming from gloop
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which ID is not
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[quote=brownie]" ... hypothesis (projecting this onto a larger scale) ... "
I've never seen that meaning of hypothesis What you're talking about is called extrapolation - making an educated guess BEYOND where any data points lie. And that's very dangerous.
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*thinks this would be just the kind of argument where the 90-second rule is a good thing*
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well, i'll have to reply when i have more time and info,
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so this experiment predicted chimps mutations from chimp to chimp, it is more evidence of microevolution and mutations, which i might add, we have been over; obviously we should look at theorys with open minds, i have looked at evolution with an open mind,but things don't add up BTW you guys need to read this article it was quite controversial and some uber-evolutionist got quite defensive and hostile to the author (makes you think they have something to hide no?) click here
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ok then dude i'll research it some
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Regarding rohirrim's ID article - it really does a lot of hand-waving, particularly towards the end. "Probably" shows up a lot - including in a very crucial point ("the probable brevity of the Cambrian explosion relative to mutation rates") about how long the Cambrian explosion had to happen. This latter bit is also interesting because of the claim that " This analysis will, for the most part, therefore, not depend upon assumptions of either a long or short fuse for the Cambrian explosion" - yet it seems to be depending on a short fuse explanation.
In general, I find it to be an interesting article, with some good points about the gaps in current evolutionary theory. Yet I do not find it to be a convincing rationale for why that theory cannot be used to explain the development of life - it has an awful lot of hedging for an article that intends to do that. And, naturally, though the article goes on about how "specified complexity" cannot be explained except by design, it ignores the clear "specified complexity" implied by a designer. A designer is MORE complex than its designees, and so their theory in fact posits more prior complexity than evolutionary theory. |
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Form follows function, so wouldn't that explain the DNA similarities? E.G., the similarity between chimp and human DNA is explained by our anatomical similarities. It doesn't mean we evolved from a common ancestor.
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Not true though. Fish and whales do not have similar DNA (well, they do in the "animal" sense, but they aren't close within animals) while they have very similar forms. Whales are more like us than fish, DNAwise, but their form and function are not.
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