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Old 01-28-2004, 11:35 AM   #481
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What is the Westron word for 'gold'?
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Old 01-28-2004, 12:59 PM   #482
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What is the Westron word for 'gold'?
Wild guess: 'Edor'??
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Old 01-28-2004, 01:07 PM   #483
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Old 01-29-2004, 09:16 AM   #484
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Old 01-29-2004, 05:20 PM   #485
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no. Think of a prominent Numenorean king and you should get it.
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Old 01-29-2004, 05:25 PM   #486
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no. Think of a prominent Numenorean king and you should get it.
Well, wasn't Pharazon called "The Golden King", so is it "Phar"? or "Azon"?
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 01-30-2004, 02:37 AM   #487
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Pharaz actually, so close enough.
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Old 01-30-2004, 10:06 AM   #488
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Pharaz actually, so close enough.
I'd wondered if it was something from 'Ar-Pharazon' when you first asked... but didn't remember if he had that name from birth, or took it upon assuming kingship. Also, didn't know if 'The Golden' was just sort of a nickname or was actually reflected by his name. So I just went with what seemed like a root for 'Edoras' - the 'Golden Hall'

Good job Dunedain, nice question Cirdan!
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On what date was the Horn of the Mark first blown in the Shire?
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Was it November 2, 1419 (SR)?
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Old 01-30-2004, 01:11 PM   #492
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Was it November 2, 1419 (SR)?
Yup, I had to look it up, because you gave the Shire Reckoning, lol. November 2, 3019 (1419 S.R.)

Guess I should have specified
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Who were the first two Chieftains of the Northern Dunedain?
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Too easy I will leave this for someone else...
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:23 PM   #495
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Can I ask what's a chieftain?

Stop laughing! I just need an explanation, because I can't really translate it... (and therefore I can't understand it)
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:28 PM   #496
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Not laughing here... I'm sure playing these games in another language than you speak and read the stories is tough.

A 'chieftain' is another word for leader... but let's say not a 'king' - for the purposes of this question certainly.
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:29 PM   #497
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Ah. Like Aragorn?
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Old 01-30-2004, 06:43 PM   #498
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Yes, that was his title before he became king.
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ok, just wanted to know. I have no idea what the answer is. The first is the son of Arvedui. Aranarth his name? I'm not sure about the second.
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Rad, you ARE right about the first!
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