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03-27-2003, 03:28 PM | #482 |
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I'd bet money more would take buses out (if only they could) than going in!
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Also - here - many many Iraqis have come out in support for the way. Many have even denounced the peace protesters and have asked where were they while Hussien tortures and kills his own people. Quote:
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03-27-2003, 04:54 PM | #486 | |
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I certainly do think a better a future is ahead of them, in fact I know it. No longer will they have to fear that if they do or say something that might offend the power that be (Saddam) that they will be thrown into a meat grinder or have their daughter's raped or their sons killed where the government then makes them pay for the bullet that killed him. I don't think war is too hard for them to bear, because they've been living in a war for over 30 years now. They will finally taste freedom for the first time in 3 decades! Well for those tortured millions, no peace or tranquility can stop that. There is no way anyone can rightly say diplomacy will help stop torturing people...
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03-27-2003, 05:01 PM | #487 | |
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This was on BBC.com today...
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I will - by the way - make sure that my government keeps it's promise for the liberation part. As far as I'm concerned - if Iraq is not liberated, with freely elected democratic government, then we have not won the war.
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03-27-2003, 05:03 PM | #488 | |
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Here are 2 examples of Iraqi exiles: Iraqi National Congress: http://www.inc.org.uk/ Women for a Free Iraq (these are Iraqi Women): http://www.womenforiraq.org/
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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03-27-2003, 05:16 PM | #489 | |
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But I think this is another example of the filtering of news I've talked about before. Doubtless there are Iraqis in the US who oppose the war, and doubtless there are Iraqis here who support it. The media are putting forth what they want us to hear, and here in Norway they want us to read most anti-war stuff. Edit: I'll see if I can find an English version of the interviews.
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03-27-2003, 05:20 PM | #490 | |
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03-27-2003, 05:27 PM | #491 | |
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It's sort of ironic - the one's against the war don't really have to worry too much about Hussein. They're living in a free country which allows them to live as they please. None of them suggested a way of getting Hussein out - short of war. I guess they just feel that all Iraqis should just leave Iraq and that'll fix the problems they obviously ran from.
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03-27-2003, 05:59 PM | #493 |
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"Or maybe the people are afraid we'll leave and that if they don't stand up to us and Hussein is left in power - he'll take his hatred out on them again. "
Maybe, that must be top of people's minds in the south especially, after what happened in 1991. Still wondering why a column of T-55s emerged from Basra to mix it with Challenger 2s...either very brave, very scared of what was behind them or very much in need of an Arabic version of Jane's Fighting Vehicles. "A good friend of my father, a persor in an Air India flight, was on the evacuation flight, to get all the Indians livin in Kuwait back home. They passed over Basra at low altitude, and they cud see all the firing n all. the bombs bursting away, the shelling, the report opf the guns n stuff." They were flying from Kuwait to India and took in Basra at low altitude? Remind me to avoid Air India in times of crisis!
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Edit: it was Guardian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...922066,00.html
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47 countries are supporting the war effort in one way or another.
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