Tolkien's Languages - Page 25

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-14-2003, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Ni lendÃ« New Mexico-anna an norta yo mÃ¡lonya. I lia nÃ© quildÃ« an andavÃ« lÃº. NÃ¡n valin nÃ¡s cuina.

Quetin Quenya, i tyar nÃ¡ ta Quenya nÃ¡ i lambÃ« Calaquendion, man nÃ¡n. Sindarin nÃ¡ i lambÃ« Moriquendion.

Trans:I went unto New Mexico for vacation with my friend. The thread was quiet for a long time. I am happy it is alive.
I speak Quenya, the cause is that Quenya is the language of the Calaquendi, which I am. Sindarin is the language of the Moriquendi.

Tulie maarave

.Andave naa i adverb, anda naa i adjective.
Sii, maquetin:
Man naa i "Caragdur"?

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-14-2003, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
I'm not especially good in Sindarin, but I'll ive it a try.

Gar is a i-verb, which lenitates the vowel and has -in ending instead of -on.

Oh, yay! Thank you. (I would say it in Sindarin, except I can't find the word for thank.)

Falagar · 10-14-2003, 04:31 PM

In the movie they used hannon le ("I thank you"), though I don't think hanna- is attested anywhere (think they deduced it from Quenya hanta- 'Sindarinizing' it.

Radagast The Brown · 10-14-2003, 05:30 PM

Sorry for interrupting, but I need to know how to say 'hope' in Sindarin (or Quenia. It doesn't matter really)

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-14-2003, 05:56 PM

Hope is estel in both languages.

Radagast The Brown · 10-14-2003, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Hope is estel in both languages.

Ah! Right! How could I forget.

Thank you very much.

Ruinel · 10-14-2003, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Trans:I went unto New Mexico for vacation with my friend. The thread was quiet for a long time. I am happy it is alive.
I speak Quenya, the cause is that Quenya is the language of the Calaquendi, which I am. Sindarin is the language of the Moriquendi.

maara!

Quote:

Tulie maarave

.Andave naa i adverb, anda naa i adjective.

"Has become good (?). Andave('long') is the adverb, anda is the adjective."
Sanda, yuhtanyes an adjective, an 'time'.

Quote:

Now, I ask:
what is the 'Caragdur'? "

o.O ...a 'dark jagged rock'?
ai, i amban Ondolindon, masse Eol nÃ© firtane.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-14-2003, 08:45 PM

Tulie= coming, maarave= well. An attempt for 'welcome'. The 'back' is implied.

Sanda, ta i Caragdur naa.

Aiquen meera maquete nat, aa care.
If anyone wants to ask (a) thing, do.

Ruinel · 10-15-2003, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Tulie= coming, maarave= well. An attempt for 'welcome'. The 'back' is implied.

Nat vi mÃ«oi man anta mahtalÃ« an ilqua, strange ar interesting.

Quote:

Sanda, ta i Caragdur naa.

Aiquen meera maquete nat, aa care.
If anyone wants to ask (a) thing, do.

"True, it the Cargdur is."

Tecuvan.

Man nÃ¡ essÃ« "MÃ¡lo Atanion" ar man nÃ¡ "Aran Pelehta-Felya-on".

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-20-2003, 08:22 PM

Felagund naas?

Ruinel · 10-23-2003, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Felagund naas?

Sina nÃ¡ FindarÃ¡to, sanda.

querelya*.

*sorry, I couldn't think of a word to represent 'your turn'.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 10-23-2003, 07:33 PM

Man tuia "Ambo" Rudhesse?

Ruinel · 10-24-2003, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Man tuia "Ambo" Rudhesse?

What springs upward ... in a bald or barren place(?).

MalinornÃ« naas?

Cute, using a Sindarin word in a Quenya sentence.

matthew · 10-30-2003, 11:30 AM

Im a Quenya fan trying to learn Sindarin, but failing miserably. ( I hate all these ****** mutations. ) oh well.
Didn't the Ardalambion Quenya course say something about Ea being a reference to location as well as in "it is (there)"?
Excuse if I'm incorrect, I've got no-one to practice with. (sigh)

Ruinel · 11-02-2003, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by matthew
Im a Quenya fan trying to learn Sindarin, but failing miserably. ( I hate all these ****** mutations. ) oh well.
Didn't the Ardalambion Quenya course say something about Ea being a reference to location as well as in "it is (there)"?
Excuse if I'm incorrect, I've got no-one to practice with. (sigh)

Sorry,

I only am familiar with the language of the Elves in Aman, not of those that stayed behind on the great journey westward.

Quetil sinomÃ«, ar lertalmÃ« quetÃ« yo le. Polin quetÃ« Quenya lambÃ«.

Falagar · 11-03-2003, 06:48 AM

I'm not good at it, but I might be able to help with some basic stuff..
The problem is remembering everything after reading the lessons.

Ruinel · 11-03-2003, 11:26 AM

SÃ¡muval matthew. MÃ¡ra!

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 11-03-2003, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by matthew
Im a Quenya fan trying to learn Sindarin, but failing miserably. ( I hate all these ****** mutations. ) oh well.
Didn't the Ardalambion Quenya course say something about Ea being a reference to location as well as in "it is (there)"?
Excuse if I'm incorrect, I've got no-one to practice with. (sigh)

I also can't quite get Sindarin down. I enjoy the mutations, but they are hard to remember, and the Mix Mutation is very frustrating. Why don't we start speaking in Sindarin as well?
Also, Falagar, do you have a wordlist or dictionary you use for Sindarin? I've never been able to locate any good ones.

As for the trivia, "Ambo Rudh" is Amon Rudh. "What sprouts on Amon Rudh?" I am ashamed that I forgot that verbs go at the end of the sentence in questions.

The plant was Aeglos.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 11-03-2003, 06:48 PM

Oh yes, about Ea:
According to Quettaparma Quenyanna:

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Ã«a ("eÃ¤") "is" (CO), in a more absolute sense ("exists", VT39:7) than the copula nÃ¡. EÃ¤ "it is" (VT39:6) or "let it be", used as a noun for "All Creation", the universe (WJ:402; Letters:284, footnote), but this term for the universe "was not held to include [souls?] and spirits" (VT39:20). One version of Tolkien's Quenya Lord's Prayer includes the words i Ã«a han Ã«a, taken to mean "who is beyond EÃ¤" (VT43:14). The past tense of Ã«a is engÃ« (VT43:38).

You were right, ea can be interpreted as "it is".

I never knew it had a past tense.

Aden · 11-03-2003, 10:42 PM

E! QUENYA EA ALCARINQUA. (is it right??)

10-14-2003, 04:31 PM	#483
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	In the movie they used hannon le ("I thank you"), though I don't think hanna- is attested anywhere (think they deduced it from Quenya hanta- 'Sindarinizing' it. __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

10-14-2003, 05:30 PM	#484
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Sorry for interrupting, but I need to know how to say 'hope' in Sindarin (or Quenia. It doesn't matter really) __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-14-2003, 05:56 PM	#485
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Hope is estel in both languages. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-14-2003, 08:45 PM	#488
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Tulie= coming, maarave= well. An attempt for 'welcome'. The 'back' is implied. Sanda, ta i Caragdur naa. Aiquen meera maquete nat, aa care. If anyone wants to ask (a) thing, do. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-20-2003, 08:22 PM	#490
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Felagund naas? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-23-2003, 07:33 PM	#492
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Man tuia "Ambo" Rudhesse? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

10-30-2003, 11:30 AM	#494
matthew Enting Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 75	Im a Quenya fan trying to learn Sindarin, but failing miserably. ( I hate all these ****** mutations. ) oh well. Didn't the Ardalambion Quenya course say something about Ea being a reference to location as well as in "it is (there)"? Excuse if I'm incorrect, I've got no-one to practice with. (sigh) __________________ Nai anar caluva tierelyanna Flame me. Go ahead. Matthew in 2028. One by one we're bringing them back. Vote Nader. Stop the hamster eaters!!!! End global warming! Turn on the AC!!! Gadzooks! Run!

11-03-2003, 06:48 AM	#496
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	I'm not good at it, but I might be able to help with some basic stuff.. The problem is remembering everything after reading the lessons. __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

11-03-2003, 11:26 AM	#497
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	SÃ¡muval matthew. MÃ¡ra!

11-03-2003, 10:42 PM	#500
Aden Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 123	E! QUENYA EA ALCARINQUA. (is it right??)

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