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The last sane person · 04-26-2008, 07:30 PM

Heh, nope. G.ray W.olf is not a science. Global Warming is though.

Though we do have a thread somewhere around here dedicated to the later, we don't have one dedicated to the former. Which, I think, could be a lot more fun.

Grey_Wolf · 04-27-2008, 02:04 AM

Thanks, Sane, I was beginning to wonder if there was a thread somewhere devoted to the discussing of me and thrilling life.

Insidious Rex · 04-28-2008, 01:04 PM

Better start one Grey Wolf so you can defend yourself from people like inked who are convinced you dont exist.

Grey_Wolf · 04-28-2008, 03:16 PM

will do!

Ingwe · 04-28-2008, 05:46 PM

Global warming...a subject that's attracted more politics than it has research to find out 1. what level the threat is (I think that the threat is at least moderate and will increase over time, but given my lack of access to all the data, it's difficult to tell and anything I say will be based merely on theory and little basis in solid facts), 2. what we're dealing with and 3. how to kill it. The last two questions should usually be asked for any threat of this magnitude.

Likelihood of major extinction...not likely at least within the next 100 years...unless something else happens to change this (ozone layer attacked by gamma ray burst, turning the sea to the consistency of battery acid, or an asteroid, or a major all-out war; even small-scale tactical nuclear weapons, enmasse, may devastate the atmosphere and ground water resources).

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And I would withdraw governmental support right now from idiots in wetlands and floodplains. Maybe they won't be underwater in 20 years from global warming. But there are plenty of reasons not to have oceanfront property in hurricane areas, and if they want to ignore those reasons they should do so entirely at their own risk.

But talk about living to the extreme - residing at oceanfront property is the ultimate example of it. During a hurricane, or practically any other manifestation of the devices of nature, it doesn't matter how much you work out because it's not THAT the wind is blowing...it's WHAT the wind is blowing.

Nautipus · 04-28-2008, 07:28 PM

Hellooo, Ron White.

inked · 04-28-2008, 08:43 PM

I have never doubted the existence of G.rey W.olf.

Now G.lobal W.arming is a different matter altogether, though I will admit that both GW(the first op cit) and GW (the second intra) are materially derived from star dust - though not in the same manner of being or existence.

***Earniel*** · 04-30-2008, 08:31 AM

Hey Nautipus, I take it you've been following the autopsy on the mesonychotheutis?

Nautipus · 04-30-2008, 08:35 AM

I'm actually in communication with one of the scientists doing it.

Grey_Wolf · 04-30-2008, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inked

I have never doubted the existence of G.rey W.olf.

Now G.lobal W.arming is a different matter altogether, though I will admit that both GW(the first op cit) and GW (the second intra) are materially derived from star dust - though not in the same manner of being or existence.

Very cool, Inked!

**Mari** · 04-30-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Eärniel

Hey Nautipus, I take it you've been following the autopsy on the mesonychotheutis?

I saw this on the news yesterday and I immediately had to think of Nauti.

Do you think they'll find something unusual, Nauti?

inked · 04-30-2008, 09:25 AM

Good still photos of the GIANT SQUID at

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...easquid130.xml

Nautipus · 04-30-2008, 09:36 AM

Mari-Probably not. From what I can tell they are getting some interesting insights into deepwater large squid. But, IIRC, they havnt found one with food in its stomach, so no help there. But they are learning alot more about the eyes and the weaponry it uses to capture prey.

Inked- Still Collossal squid.

***Earniel*** · 04-30-2008, 11:52 AM

Nautipus, help us out for a moment. My dad and I have a discussion pertaining the colossal squid.

This disk-like...bit of the squid, it's on his head, right? My dad says the disk is more of a tail, since the actual head (eyes and beak) is closer to the tentacles, I'm saying, no it's still his head, all there is on a squid is head and tentactle. I figured you would know the right terminology.

Nautipus · 04-30-2008, 11:59 AM

http://www.tonmo.com/images/content/...ig8NOSTEAL.jpg

Okay, I'm assuming the "disk" you're referring to is the top-most portion on this picture, if so, then those are fins used for locomotion and steering of the animal, and are extensions of the mantle which ends just above the actual head. The head is the small portion between the arms and mantle, and basically (externally) just carries the eyes. The siphon is also visible in this pic, jutting out beneath the mantle. Then there are the eight arms and two tentacles. The "disk" is really part of a covering that covers the visceral mass of the squid, and is much like our own torso, in function.

Hope that helps.

Coffeehouse · 04-30-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautipus

http://www.tonmo.com/images/content/...ig8NOSTEAL.jpg

Okay, I'm assuming the "disk" you're referring to is the top-most portion on this picture, if so, then those are fins used for locomotion and steering of the animal, and are extensions of the mantle which ends just above the actual head. The head is the small portion between the arms and mantle, and basically (externally) just carries the eyes. The siphon is also visible in this pic, jutting out beneath the mantle. Then there are the eight arms and two tentacles. The "disk" is really part of a covering that covers the visceral mass of the squid, and is much like our own torso, in function.

Hope that helps.

Ah damn you now I have to run along, find a moment where speaking of squids is appropriate and divulge all of this information!

It's a compulsion...

***Earniel*** · 04-30-2008, 12:32 PM

Darn, I always thought the mantle was the part between the arms, where the mouth is.

Nautipus · 04-30-2008, 01:25 PM

That's actually called the buccal mass, which holds the beack. The beak is actually very unique, because it has varying degrees of hardness, so that when the squid bites, it foesnt harm itself. Very interesting to look at.

Coffeehouse- You go do that. It's a great compulsion.

Insidious Rex · 04-30-2008, 01:31 PM

Now Im hungry for calamari...

inked · 04-30-2008, 04:36 PM

Colossal calamari or Giant calamari?

Perhaps Nautipus can clarify the difference?

04-26-2008, 07:30 PM	#461
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	Heh, nope. G.ray W.olf is not a science. Global Warming is though. Though we do have a thread somewhere around here dedicated to the later, we don't have one dedicated to the former. Which, I think, could be a lot more fun. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

04-28-2008, 01:04 PM	#463
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Better start one Grey Wolf so you can defend yourself from people like inked who are convinced you dont exist. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

04-28-2008, 07:28 PM	#466
Nautipus Kraken King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Under the sea Posts: 2,714	Hellooo, Ron White. __________________ Being the King of these Beings, This is my Child One of my top ten favorite movies. "You ever try to flick a fly? "No." "It's a waste of time." "Can you see it?" "No." "It's right there!" "Where? "There!" "What is it?" "A crab." "A crab? I dont see any crab." "How?! It's right there!!" "Where?" "There!!!!" "Oh." -Excerpts from A Tale of Two Morons One of the best Global Warming Messages out there

04-28-2008, 08:43 PM	#467
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	I have never doubted the existence of G.rey W.olf. Now G.lobal W.arming is a different matter altogether, though I will admit that both GW(the first op cit) and GW (the second intra) are materially derived from star dust - though not in the same manner of being or existence. __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

04-30-2008, 08:31 AM	#468
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Hey Nautipus, I take it you've been following the autopsy on the mesonychotheutis? __________________ We are not things.

04-27-2008, 02:04 AM	#462
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	Thanks, Sane, I was beginning to wonder if there was a thread somewhere devoted to the discussing of me and thrilling life.

04-28-2008, 03:16 PM	#464
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	will do!

04-30-2008, 08:35 AM	#469
Nautipus Kraken King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Under the sea Posts: 2,714	I'm actually in communication with one of the scientists doing it. __________________ Being the King of these Beings, This is my Child One of my top ten favorite movies. "You ever try to flick a fly? "No." "It's a waste of time." "Can you see it?" "No." "It's right there!" "Where? "There!" "What is it?" "A crab." "A crab? I dont see any crab." "How?! It's right there!!" "Where?" "There!!!!" "Oh." -Excerpts from A Tale of Two Morons One of the best Global Warming Messages out there

04-30-2008, 09:25 AM	#472
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Good still photos of the GIANT SQUID at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...easquid130.xml __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

04-30-2008, 09:36 AM	#473
Nautipus Kraken King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Under the sea Posts: 2,714	Mari-Probably not. From what I can tell they are getting some interesting insights into deepwater large squid. But, IIRC, they havnt found one with food in its stomach, so no help there. But they are learning alot more about the eyes and the weaponry it uses to capture prey. Inked- Still Collossal squid. __________________ Being the King of these Beings, This is my Child One of my top ten favorite movies. "You ever try to flick a fly? "No." "It's a waste of time." "Can you see it?" "No." "It's right there!" "Where? "There!" "What is it?" "A crab." "A crab? I dont see any crab." "How?! It's right there!!" "Where?" "There!!!!" "Oh." -Excerpts from A Tale of Two Morons One of the best Global Warming Messages out there Last edited by Nautipus : 04-30-2008 at 03:41 PM.

04-30-2008, 11:52 AM	#474
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Nautipus, help us out for a moment. My dad and I have a discussion pertaining the colossal squid. This disk-like...bit of the squid, it's on his head, right? My dad says the disk is more of a tail, since the actual head (eyes and beak) is closer to the tentacles, I'm saying, no it's still his head, all there is on a squid is head and tentactle. I figured you would know the right terminology. __________________ We are not things.

04-30-2008, 11:59 AM	#475
Nautipus Kraken King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Under the sea Posts: 2,714	http://www.tonmo.com/images/content/...ig8NOSTEAL.jpg Okay, I'm assuming the "disk" you're referring to is the top-most portion on this picture, if so, then those are fins used for locomotion and steering of the animal, and are extensions of the mantle which ends just above the actual head. The head is the small portion between the arms and mantle, and basically (externally) just carries the eyes. The siphon is also visible in this pic, jutting out beneath the mantle. Then there are the eight arms and two tentacles. The "disk" is really part of a covering that covers the visceral mass of the squid, and is much like our own torso, in function. Hope that helps. __________________ Being the King of these Beings, This is my Child One of my top ten favorite movies. "You ever try to flick a fly? "No." "It's a waste of time." "Can you see it?" "No." "It's right there!" "Where? "There!" "What is it?" "A crab." "A crab? I dont see any crab." "How?! It's right there!!" "Where?" "There!!!!" "Oh." -Excerpts from A Tale of Two Morons One of the best Global Warming Messages out there

04-30-2008, 12:32 PM	#477
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Darn, I always thought the mantle was the part between the arms, where the mouth is. __________________ We are not things.

04-30-2008, 01:25 PM	#478
Nautipus Kraken King Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Under the sea Posts: 2,714	That's actually called the buccal mass, which holds the beack. The beak is actually very unique, because it has varying degrees of hardness, so that when the squid bites, it foesnt harm itself. Very interesting to look at. Coffeehouse- You go do that. It's a great compulsion. __________________ Being the King of these Beings, This is my Child One of my top ten favorite movies. "You ever try to flick a fly? "No." "It's a waste of time." "Can you see it?" "No." "It's right there!" "Where? "There!" "What is it?" "A crab." "A crab? I dont see any crab." "How?! It's right there!!" "Where?" "There!!!!" "Oh." -Excerpts from A Tale of Two Morons One of the best Global Warming Messages out there

04-30-2008, 01:31 PM	#479
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	Now Im hungry for calamari... __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

04-30-2008, 04:36 PM	#480
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Colossal calamari or Giant calamari? Perhaps Nautipus can clarify the difference? __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941 Last edited by inked : 04-30-2008 at 04:38 PM. Reason: speelin

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