Quote Game - Part 11 - Page 24

Midge · 04-06-2011, 06:24 PM

Quite possibly, though I doubt it.

My husband had been in the middle of reading The Silmarillion - to be more correct, he finished listening to it on audiobook.

This gem came to me in a text after he finished mowing one day, followed by instructions to "read it in my epic voice".

Galenavar · 04-09-2011, 12:11 AM

Y_u/_n_w/_h_t/_e/_a_/a/_a_e/_p_r_/,/
_n_/w_s/_d_u_g_d/_o/_h_/F_r_t_o_n/_h_/d_e/_o_/;/
_e_/t_i_/a_s_/i_/h_s/_o_m/
_h_t/_e/_a_/n_v_r/_e_u_n/_g_i_/t_/m_r_a_/l_n_s/./
W_e_e_s/_o_/a_d/_o_r/_e_p_e/_r_/n_t/_f/_h_/F_r_t_o_n/,/
b_t/_r_/m_r_a_/M_n/_s/_l_v_t_r/_a_e/_o_/./
_e_/i_/s_e_s/_h_t/_o_/d_s_r_/n_w/_o/_a_e/_h_/g_o_/o_/b_t_/k_n_r_d_/,/
_o/_a_l/_o/V_l_n_r/_h_n/_o_/w_l_/,/
_n_/t_/r_t_r_/w_e_/y_u/_l_a_e/_o/_o_r/_o_e_/./_h_t/_a_n_t/_e/./
N_r/_a_/t_e/_a_a_/t_k_/a_a_/t_e/_i_t_/o_/I_u_a_a_/./
_h_/E_d_/,/_o_/s_y/,/a_e/_n_u_i_h_d/,/
a_d/_v_n/_h_s_/w_o/_e_e_l_d/_o/_o_/d_e/./
Y_t/_h_t/_s/_o/_h_m/_e_t_e_/r_w_r_/n_r/_u_i_h_e_t/,/
b_t/_h_/_u_f_l_e_t/_f/_h_i_/b_i_g/./
T_e_/c_n_o_/e_c_p_/,/_n_/a_e/_o_n_/t_/t_i_/w_r_d/,/
n_v_r/_o/_e_v_/i_/s_/l_n_/a_/i_/l_s_s/,/f_r/_t_/l_f_/i_/t_e_r_/./
_n_/y_u/_r_/p_n_s_e_/f_r/_h_/r_b_l_i_n/_f/_e_/,/_o_/s_y/,/
i_/w_i_h/_o_/h_d/_/s_a_l/_a_t/,/a_d/_o/_t/_s/_h_t/_o_/d_e/./
B_t/_h_t/_a_/n_t/_t/_i_s_/a_p_i_t_d/_o_/a/_u_i_h_e_t/./
T_u_/y_u/_s_a_e/,/a_d/_e_v_/t_e/_o_l_/,/
_n_/a_e/_o_/b_u_d/_o/i_/,/_n/_o_e/_r/_n/_e_r_n_s_/./
_h_c_/o_/u_/t_e_e_o_e/_h_u_d/_n_y/_h_/o_h_r_/?/

Oh, and Midge... I'm a girl.

Midge · 04-09-2011, 05:50 PM

Okay, then.

Like I said, the only way to know is to ask.

You know that he had a/_a_e/_p_r_/,/and was /_d_u_g_d/to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he may never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and
your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Man as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desert now to make the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor
when you will,and to return when you /_l_a_e/_o/_o_r/_o_e_/./_h_t/_a_n_t/_e/./
Nor was the /_a_a_/take away the /_i_t_/of Iluvatar. _h_/E_d_/,/_o_/s_y/,/
are/_n_u_i_h_d/,/and even those who /_e_e_l_d/_o/_o_/d_e/./Yet that is to them
/_e_t_e_/reward nor/_u_i_h_e_t/,/b_t/_h_/_u_f_l_e_t/_f/_h_i_/bring. They cannot
escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so land an is loses, for /_t_/
life is /t_e_r_/./And you are /p_n_s_e_/for the /r_b_l_i_n/of/_e_/,/_o_/s_y/,/
i_/w_i_h/_o_/h_d/_/s_a_l/_a_t/,/a_d/_o/_t/_s/_h_t/_o_/d_e/./B_t/_h_t/_a_/n_t/
_t/_i_s_/a_p_i_t_d/_o_/a/_u_i_h_e_t/./T_u_/y_u/_s_a_e/,/a_d/_e_v_/t_e/_o_l_/,/
_n_/a_e/_o_/b_u_d/_o/i_/,/_n/_o_e/_r/_n/_e_r_n_s_/./_h_c_/o_/u_/t_e_e_o_e/
_h_u_d/_n_y/_h_/o_h_r_/?/

Galenavar · 04-10-2011, 01:16 AM

Bold words are incorrect:

You know that he had a/_a_e/_p_r_/,/and was /_d_u_g_d/to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he may never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and
your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Man as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desert now to make the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor
when you will,and to return when you /_l_a_e/_o/_o_r/_o_e_/./_h_t/_a_n_t/_e/./
Nor was the /_a_a_/take away the /_i_t_/of Iluvatar. _h_/E_d_/,/_o_/s_y/,/
are/_n_u_i_h_d/,/and even those who /_e_e_l_d/_o/_o_/d_e/./Yet that is to them
/_e_t_e_/reward nor/_u_i_h_e_t/,/b_t/_h_/_u_f_l_e_t/_f/_h_i_/bring.
They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so land an is loses,
for /_t_/life is /t_e_r_/./And you are /p_n_s_e_/for the/r_b_l_i_n/of/_e_/,/_o_/s_y/,/
i_/w_i_h/_o_/h_d/_/s_a_l/_a_t/,/a_d/_o/_t/_s/_h_t/_o_/d_e/./B_t/_h_t/_a_/n_t/
_t/_i_s_/a_p_i_t_d/_o_/a/_u_i_h_e_t/./T_u_/y_u/_s_a_e/,/a_d/_e_v_/t_e/_o_l_/,/
_n_/a_e/_o_/b_u_d/_o/i_/,/_n/_o_e/_r/_n/_e_r_n_s_/./_h_c_/o_/u_/t_e_e_o_e/
_h_u_d/_n_y/_h_/o_h_r_/?/

***Valandil*** · 04-10-2011, 08:19 AM

"You know that he was a /_a_e/_p_r_/,
and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands.
Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn,
but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds,
to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when
you please to your homes. That cannot be.
Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar.
The Elves, you say, are unpunished,
and even those who rebelled do not die.
Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment,
but the fulfillment of their being.
They cannot escape, and are bound to this world,
never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs.
And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say,
in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die.
But that was not at first appointed for a punishment.
Thus you /_s_a_e/, and leave the world,
and are not bound to it, in /_o_e/ or in /_e_r_n_s_/.
Which of us therefore should envy the other?"

Galenavar · 04-10-2011, 02:28 PM

Only a couple incorrect:

"You know that he was a /_a_e/_p_r_/,
and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands.
Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn,
but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds,
to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when
you please to your homes. That cannot be.
Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar.
The Elves*, you say, are unpunished,
and even those who rebelled do not die.
Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment,
but the fulfillment of their being.
They cannot escape, and are bound to this world,
never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs.
And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say,
in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die.
But that was not at first appointed for a punishment.
Thus you /_s_a_e/, and leave the world,
and are not bound to it, in /_o_e/ or in /_e_r_n_s_/.
Which of us therefore should envy the other?"

*This one is my fault - I missed a letter. In the original, it should read E_d_r...
and you're missing the last letter at the end of 'other', Val.

***Valandil*** · 04-10-2011, 10:02 PM

"You know that he has a fate apart,
and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands.
Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn,
but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds,
to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when
you please to your homes. That cannot be.
Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar.
The Eldar, you say, are unpunished,
and even those who rebelled do not die.
Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment,
but the fulfillment of their being.
They cannot escape, and are bound to this world,
never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs.
And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say,
in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die.
But that was not at first appointed for a punishment.
Thus you /_s_a_e/, and leave the world,
and are not bound to it, in hope or in /_e_r_n_s_/.
Which of us therefore should envy the others?"

Was this spoken by anonymous Elven messengers? To the King of Numenor?

Count Comfect · 04-10-2011, 10:57 PM

escape and leave the world

Galenavar · 04-11-2011, 12:03 AM

Yes, this is from the messengers Manwe sends to the King. Count, your addition is correct as well!

That means there's only one word left... this went much faster than I thought it would...

Midge · 04-11-2011, 08:54 PM

"You know that he has a fate apart,
and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands.
Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn,
but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds,
to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when
you please to your homes. That cannot be.
Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar.
The Eldar, you say, are unpunished,
and even those who rebelled do not die.
Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment,
but the fulfillment of their being.
They cannot escape, and are bound to this world,
never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs.
And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say,
in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die.
But that was not at first appointed for a punishment.
Thus you escape, and leave the world,
and are not bound to it, in hope or in weariness.
Which of us therefore should envy the others?"

Taniquetil · 04-12-2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midge

"You know that he has a fate apart,
and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not;
Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands.
Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn,
but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you.
Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds,
to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when
you please to your homes. That cannot be.
Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar.
The Eldar, you say, are unpunished,
and even those who rebelled do not die.
Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment,
but the fulfillment of their being.
They cannot escape, and are bound to this world,
never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs.
And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say,
in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die.
But that was not at first appointed for a punishment.
Thus you escape, and leave the world,
and are not bound to it, in hope or in weariness.
Which of us therefore should envy the others?"

This has nothing to do with the guessing, but what a great quote!!!

Galenavar · 04-13-2011, 11:18 AM

Sums up the natures of immortality and death so beautifully, doesn't it?

'Weariness' was indeed the missing word. Midge, you're turn!

Midge · 04-15-2011, 01:36 PM

AWESOME... Yeah, I don't have my books with me.

Midge · 04-18-2011, 12:27 AM

"/'/_n_/l_s_e_/,/G_n_a_f/,/_y/_l_/f_i_n_/a_d/_e_p_r/!'/_e/_a_d/,/_o_i_g/_e_r/
_n_/s_e_k_n_/n_w/_n/_/s_f_e_/v_i_e/.'/_/s_i_/w_/,/f_r/_e/_t/_a_/_e/,/_f/_o_/
w_l_/j_i_/w_t_/m_/./A/_e_/P_w_r/_s/_i_i_g/./_g_i_s_/i_/t_e/_l_/a_l_e_/a_d/
_o_i_i_s/_i_l/_o_/a_a_l/_s/_t/_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/
_u_e_o_/./T_i_/t_e_/i_/o_e/_h_i_e/_e_o_e/_o_/,/b_f_r_/u_/./W_/m_y/_o_n/_i_h/
_h_t/_o_e_/./I_/w_u_d/_e/_i_e/,/_a_d_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o_e/_h_t/_a_/./I_s/_i_t_r_/
i_/a_/h_n_/;/a_d/_h_r_/w_l_/b_/r_c_/r_w_r_/f_r/_h_s_/t_a_/a_d_d/_t/./_s/_h_/
P_w_r/_r_w_/,/i_s/_r_v_d/_r_e_d_/w_l_/a_s_/g_o_/;/a_d/_h_/W_s_/,/s_c_/a_/y_u/
_n_/I/,/_a_/w_t_/p_t_e_c_/c_m_/a_/l_s_/t_/d_r_c_/i_s/_o_r_e_/,/t_/c_n_r_l/_t/./
_e/_a_/b_d_/o_r/_i_e/,/_e/_a_/k_e_/o_t/_h_u_h_s/_n/_u_/h_a_t_/,/d_p_o_i_g/
_a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/,/_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/:/
K_o_l_d_e/,/_u_e/,/_r_e_/;/a_l/_h_/t_i_g_/t_a_/w_/h_v_/s_/f_r/_t_i_e_/i_/v_i_/
t_/a_c_m_l_s_/,/h_n_e_e_/r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/b_/o_r/_e_k/_r/_d_e/_r_e_d_/./
_h_r_/n_e_/n_t/_e/,/_h_r_/w_u_d/_o_/b_/,/a_y/_e_l/_h_n_e/_n/_u_/d_s_g_s/,/
_n_y/_n/_u_/m_a_s/.'/"

Taniquetil · 04-18-2011, 01:32 PM

And lesser, Gandalf, my elf (sly?) friend and keeper! be we,? ?
and speaking now in a ? voice. I said we, for we it can be, if you
will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the elf ? and

Midge · 04-18-2011, 02:32 PM

Corrections -

"'And/l_s_e_/, Gandalf, my/_l_/friend and/_e_p_r/!'/_e/_a_d/,/_o_i_g/_e_r/
and speaking now in a/s_f_e_/voice. 'I said we, for we it/_a_/be, if you
will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the /_l_/a_l_e_/and/
_o_i_i_s/_i_l/_o_/a_a_l/_s/_t/_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/
_u_e_o_/./T_i_/t_e_/i_/o_e/_h_i_e/_e_o_e/_o_/,/b_f_r_/u_/./W_/m_y/_o_n/_i_h/
_h_t/_o_e_/./I_/w_u_d/_e/_i_e/,/_a_d_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o_e/_h_t/_a_/./I_s/_i_t_r_/
i_/a_/h_n_/;/a_d/_h_r_/w_l_/b_/r_c_/r_w_r_/f_r/_h_s_/t_a_/a_d_d/_t/./_s/_h_/
P_w_r/_r_w_/,/i_s/_r_v_d/_r_e_d_/w_l_/a_s_/g_o_/;/a_d/_h_/W_s_/,/s_c_/a_/y_u/
_n_/I/,/_a_/w_t_/p_t_e_c_/c_m_/a_/l_s_/t_/d_r_c_/i_s/_o_r_e_/,/t_/c_n_r_l/_t/./
_e/_a_/b_d_/o_r/_i_e/,/_e/_a_/k_e_/o_t/_h_u_h_s/_n/_u_/h_a_t_/,/d_p_o_i_g/
_a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/,/_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/:/
K_o_l_d_e/,/_u_e/,/_r_e_/;/a_l/_h_/t_i_g_/t_a_/w_/h_v_/s_/f_r/_t_i_e_/i_/v_i_/
t_/a_c_m_l_s_/,/h_n_e_e_/r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/b_/o_r/_e_k/_r/_d_e/_r_e_d_/./
_h_r_/n_e_/n_t/_e/,/_h_r_/w_u_d/_o_/b_/,/a_y/_e_l/_h_n_e/_n/_u_/d_s_g_s/,/
_n_y/_n/_u_/m_a_s/.'/"

***Valandil*** · 04-19-2011, 12:35 AM

"'And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helpter!' he said,
coming near and speaking now in a softer voice.
'I said we, for we it can be, if you
will join with me. A new Power is rising.
Against it the old allies and /_o_i_i_s/_i_l/_o_/a_a_l/_s/_t/_l_/.
/T_e_e/_s/_o/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/_u_e_o_/.
/T_i_/t_e_/i_/o_e/_h_i_e/_e_o_e/_o_/,/b_f_r_/u_/.
/W_/m_y/_o_n/_i_h/_h_t/_o_e_/./I_/w_u_d/_e/_i_e/,/_a_d_l_/.
/T_e_e/_s/_o_e/_h_t/_a_/./I_s/_i_t_r_/i_/a_/h_n_/;
/a_d/_h_r_/w_l_/b_/r_c_/r_w_r_/f_r/_h_s_/t_a_/a_d_d/_t/.
/_s/_h_/P_w_r/_r_w_/,/i_s/_r_v_d/_r_e_d_/w_l_/a_s_/g_o_/;
/a_d/_h_/W_s_/,/s_c_/a_/y_u/_n_/I/,
/_a_/w_t_/p_t_e_c_/c_m_/a_/l_s_/t_/d_r_c_/i_s/_o_r_e_/,
/t_/c_n_r_l/_t/./_e/_a_/b_d_/o_r/_i_e/,
/_e/_a_/k_e_/o_t/_h_u_h_s/_n/_u_/h_a_t_/,
/d_p_o_i_g/_a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/,
/_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/:
/K_o_l_d_e/,/_u_e/,/_r_e_/;
/a_l/_h_/t_i_g_/t_a_/w_/h_v_/s_/f_r/_t_i_e_/i_/v_i_/t_/a_c_m_l_s_/,
/h_n_e_e_/r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/b_/o_r/_e_k/_r/_d_e/_r_e_d_/.
/_h_r_/n_e_/n_t/_e/,/_h_r_/w_u_d/_o_/b_/,
/a_y/_e_l/_h_n_e/_n/_u_/d_s_g_s/,/_n_y/_n/_u_/m_a_s/.'/"

Argh... no time right now.

Speaker: Gandalf (recounting the words of someone else, I should say)

Count Comfect · 04-19-2011, 03:12 PM

I think "helpter" is just "helper"

"will not avail us at all"

***Earniel*** · 04-19-2011, 03:37 PM

"'And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helper!' he said,
coming near and speaking now in a softer voice.
'I said we, for we it can be, if you
will join with me. A new Power is rising.
Against it the old allies and /_o_i_i_s/will not avail us at all.
There is no/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/_u_e_o_/.
This then is one/_h_i_e/before you, before us.
We may soon/_i_h/_h_t/_o_e_/./It would be/_i_e/,Gandalf.
[...]

Beren3000 · 04-19-2011, 06:39 PM

"'And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helpter!' he said,
coming near and speaking now in a softer voice.
'I said we, for we it can be, if you
will join with me. A new Power is rising.
Against it the old allies and dominions will not avail us at all.
There is no more /_e_t/ in /_l_e_/o_/ doing /_u_e_o_/.
This then is one choice before you, before us.
We may soon wish that /_o_e_/./It would be wise,Gandalf.
There is more that way. Its victory is at hand;
and there will be rich reward for those that aided it.
As the Power grows, its (proved?) friends will also grow;
and the Wise, such as you and I,
may with patience come at last to direct its course,
to control it. We may bide our time,
we may keep (our?) thoughts in our hearts,
/d_p_o_i_g/_a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/,
/_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/:
Knowledge, sure, /_r_e_/;
all the things that we have so far striven in vain to accomplish,
hindered /r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/be our /_e_k/ or /_d_e/_r_e_d_/.
There need not be, there would not be,
any real change in our designs, only in our means"

04-06-2011, 06:24 PM	#461
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Quite possibly, though I doubt it. My husband had been in the middle of reading The Silmarillion - to be more correct, he finished listening to it on audiobook. This gem came to me in a text after he finished mowing one day, followed by instructions to "read it in my epic voice". __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more! Last edited by Midge : 04-06-2011 at 06:25 PM.

04-09-2011, 12:11 AM	#462
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Y_u/_n_w/_h_t/_e/_a_/a/_a_e/_p_r_/,/ _n_/w_s/_d_u_g_d/_o/_h_/F_r_t_o_n/_h_/d_e/_o_/;/ _e_/t_i_/a_s_/i_/h_s/_o_m/ _h_t/_e/_a_/n_v_r/_e_u_n/_g_i_/t_/m_r_a_/l_n_s/./ W_e_e_s/_o_/a_d/_o_r/_e_p_e/_r_/n_t/_f/_h_/F_r_t_o_n/,/ b_t/_r_/m_r_a_/M_n/_s/_l_v_t_r/_a_e/_o_/./ _e_/i_/s_e_s/_h_t/_o_/d_s_r_/n_w/_o/_a_e/_h_/g_o_/o_/b_t_/k_n_r_d_/,/ _o/_a_l/_o/V_l_n_r/_h_n/_o_/w_l_/,/ _n_/t_/r_t_r_/w_e_/y_u/_l_a_e/_o/_o_r/_o_e_/./_h_t/_a_n_t/_e/./ N_r/_a_/t_e/_a_a_/t_k_/a_a_/t_e/_i_t_/o_/I_u_a_a_/./ _h_/E_d_/,/_o_/s_y/,/a_e/_n_u_i_h_d/,/ a_d/_v_n/_h_s_/w_o/_e_e_l_d/_o/_o_/d_e/./ Y_t/_h_t/_s/_o/_h_m/_e_t_e_/r_w_r_/n_r/_u_i_h_e_t/,/ b_t/_h_/_u_f_l_e_t/_f/_h_i_/b_i_g/./ T_e_/c_n_o_/e_c_p_/,/_n_/a_e/_o_n_/t_/t_i_/w_r_d/,/ n_v_r/_o/_e_v_/i_/s_/l_n_/a_/i_/l_s_s/,/f_r/_t_/l_f_/i_/t_e_r_/./ _n_/y_u/_r_/p_n_s_e_/f_r/_h_/r_b_l_i_n/_f/_e_/,/_o_/s_y/,/ i_/w_i_h/_o_/h_d/_/s_a_l/_a_t/,/a_d/_o/_t/_s/_h_t/_o_/d_e/./ B_t/_h_t/_a_/n_t/_t/_i_s_/a_p_i_t_d/_o_/a/_u_i_h_e_t/./ T_u_/y_u/_s_a_e/,/a_d/_e_v_/t_e/_o_l_/,/ _n_/a_e/_o_/b_u_d/_o/i_/,/_n/_o_e/_r/_n/_e_r_n_s_/./ _h_c_/o_/u_/t_e_e_o_e/_h_u_d/_n_y/_h_/o_h_r_/?/ Oh, and Midge... I'm a girl. __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

04-09-2011, 05:50 PM	#463
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Okay, then. Like I said, the only way to know is to ask. You know that he had a/_a_e/_p_r_/,/and was /_d_u_g_d/to the Firstborn who die not; Yet this also is his doom that he may never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Man as Iluvatar made you. Yet it seems that you desert now to make the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor when you will,and to return when you /_l_a_e/_o/_o_r/_o_e_/./_h_t/_a_n_t/_e/./ Nor was the /_a_a_/take away the /_i_t_/of Iluvatar. _h_/E_d_/,/_o_/s_y/,/ are/_n_u_i_h_d/,/and even those who /_e_e_l_d/_o/_o_/d_e/./Yet that is to them /_e_t_e_/reward nor/_u_i_h_e_t/,/b_t/_h_/_u_f_l_e_t/_f/_h_i_/bring. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so land an is loses, for /_t_/ life is /t_e_r_/./And you are /p_n_s_e_/for the /r_b_l_i_n/of/_e_/,/_o_/s_y/,/ i_/w_i_h/_o_/h_d/_/s_a_l/_a_t/,/a_d/_o/_t/_s/_h_t/_o_/d_e/./B_t/_h_t/_a_/n_t/ _t/_i_s_/a_p_i_t_d/_o_/a/_u_i_h_e_t/./T_u_/y_u/_s_a_e/,/a_d/_e_v_/t_e/_o_l_/,/ _n_/a_e/_o_/b_u_d/_o/i_/,/_n/_o_e/_r/_n/_e_r_n_s_/./_h_c_/o_/u_/t_e_e_o_e/ _h_u_d/_n_y/_h_/o_h_r_/?/ __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more! Last edited by Midge : 04-09-2011 at 10:46 PM.

04-10-2011, 01:16 AM	#464
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Bold words are incorrect: You know that he had a/_a_e/_p_r_/,/and was /_d_u_g_d/to the Firstborn who die not; Yet this also is his doom that he may never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Man as Iluvatar made you. Yet it seems that you desert now to make the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor when you will,and to return when you /_l_a_e/_o/_o_r/_o_e_/./_h_t/_a_n_t/_e/./ Nor was the /_a_a_/take away the /_i_t_/of Iluvatar. _h_/E_d_/,/_o_/s_y/,/ are/_n_u_i_h_d/,/and even those who /_e_e_l_d/_o/_o_/d_e/./Yet that is to them /_e_t_e_/reward nor/_u_i_h_e_t/,/b_t/_h_/_u_f_l_e_t/_f/_h_i_/bring. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so land an is loses, for /_t_/life is /t_e_r_/./And you are /p_n_s_e_/for the/r_b_l_i_n/of/_e_/,/_o_/s_y/,/ i_/w_i_h/_o_/h_d/_/s_a_l/_a_t/,/a_d/_o/_t/_s/_h_t/_o_/d_e/./B_t/_h_t/_a_/n_t/ _t/_i_s_/a_p_i_t_d/_o_/a/_u_i_h_e_t/./T_u_/y_u/_s_a_e/,/a_d/_e_v_/t_e/_o_l_/,/ _n_/a_e/_o_/b_u_d/_o/i_/,/_n/_o_e/_r/_n/_e_r_n_s_/./_h_c_/o_/u_/t_e_e_o_e/ _h_u_d/_n_y/_h_/o_h_r_/?/ __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

04-10-2011, 08:19 AM	#465
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"You know that he was a /_a_e/_p_r_/, and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not; Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you. Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when you please to your homes. That cannot be. Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar. The Elves, you say, are unpunished, and even those who rebelled do not die. Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment, but the fulfillment of their being. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs. And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say, in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die. But that was not at first appointed for a punishment. Thus you /_s_a_e/, and leave the world, and are not bound to it, in /_o_e/ or in /_e_r_n_s_/. Which of us therefore should envy the other?" __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

04-10-2011, 02:28 PM	#466
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Only a couple incorrect: "You know that he was a /_a_e/_p_r_/, and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not; Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you. Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when you please to your homes. That cannot be. Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar. The Elves, you say, are unpunished, and even those who rebelled do not die. Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment, but the fulfillment of their being. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs. And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say, in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die. But that was not at first appointed for a punishment. Thus you /_s_a_e/, and leave the world, and are not bound to it, in /_o_e/ or in /_e_r_n_s_/. Which of us therefore should envy the other?" This one is my fault - I missed a letter. In the original, it should read E_d_r... and you're missing the last letter at the end of 'other', Val. __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

04-10-2011, 10:02 PM	#467
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"You know that he has a fate apart, and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not; Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you. Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when you please to your homes. That cannot be. Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar. The Eldar, you say, are unpunished, and even those who rebelled do not die. Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment, but the fulfillment of their being. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs. And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say, in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die. But that was not at first appointed for a punishment. Thus you /_s_a_e/, and leave the world, and are not bound to it, in hope or in /_e_r_n_s_/. Which of us therefore should envy the others?" Was this spoken by anonymous Elven messengers? To the King of Numenor? __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

04-10-2011, 10:57 PM	#468
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	escape and leave the world __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

04-11-2011, 12:03 AM	#469
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Yes, this is from the messengers Manwe sends to the King. Count, your addition is correct as well! That means there's only one word left... this went much faster than I thought it would... __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

04-11-2011, 08:54 PM	#470
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	"You know that he has a fate apart, and was adjudged to the Firstborn who die not; Yet this also is his doom that he can never return again to mortal lands. Whereas you and your people are not of the Firstborn, but are mortal Men as Iluvatar made you. Yet it seems that you desire now to have the good of both kindreds, to sail to Valinor when you will, and to return when you please to your homes. That cannot be. Nor can the Valar take away the gifts of Iluvatar. The Eldar, you say, are unpunished, and even those who rebelled do not die. Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment, but the fulfillment of their being. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it so long as it lasts, for its life is theirs. And you are punished for the rebellion of Men, you say, in which you had a small part, and so it is that you die. But that was not at first appointed for a punishment. Thus you escape, and leave the world, and are not bound to it, in hope or in weariness. Which of us therefore should envy the others?" __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

04-13-2011, 11:18 AM	#472
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Sums up the natures of immortality and death so beautifully, doesn't it? 'Weariness' was indeed the missing word. Midge, you're turn! __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

04-15-2011, 01:36 PM	#473
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	AWESOME... Yeah, I don't have my books with me. __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

04-18-2011, 12:27 AM	#474
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	"/'/_n_/l_s_e_/,/G_n_a_f/,/_y/_l_/f_i_n_/a_d/_e_p_r/!'/_e/_a_d/,/_o_i_g/_e_r/ _n_/s_e_k_n_/n_w/_n/_/s_f_e_/v_i_e/.'/_/s_i_/w_/,/f_r/_e/_t/_a_/_e/,/_f/_o_/ w_l_/j_i_/w_t_/m_/./A/_e_/P_w_r/_s/_i_i_g/./_g_i_s_/i_/t_e/_l_/a_l_e_/a_d/ _o_i_i_s/_i_l/_o_/a_a_l/_s/_t/_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/ _u_e_o_/./T_i_/t_e_/i_/o_e/_h_i_e/_e_o_e/_o_/,/b_f_r_/u_/./W_/m_y/_o_n/_i_h/ _h_t/_o_e_/./I_/w_u_d/_e/_i_e/,/_a_d_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o_e/_h_t/_a_/./I_s/_i_t_r_/ i_/a_/h_n_/;/a_d/_h_r_/w_l_/b_/r_c_/r_w_r_/f_r/_h_s_/t_a_/a_d_d/_t/./_s/_h_/ P_w_r/_r_w_/,/i_s/_r_v_d/_r_e_d_/w_l_/a_s_/g_o_/;/a_d/_h_/W_s_/,/s_c_/a_/y_u/ _n_/I/,/_a_/w_t_/p_t_e_c_/c_m_/a_/l_s_/t_/d_r_c_/i_s/_o_r_e_/,/t_/c_n_r_l/_t/./ _e/_a_/b_d_/o_r/_i_e/,/_e/_a_/k_e_/o_t/_h_u_h_s/_n/_u_/h_a_t_/,/d_p_o_i_g/ _a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/,/_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/:/ K_o_l_d_e/,/_u_e/,/_r_e_/;/a_l/_h_/t_i_g_/t_a_/w_/h_v_/s_/f_r/_t_i_e_/i_/v_i_/ t_/a_c_m_l_s_/,/h_n_e_e_/r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/b_/o_r/_e_k/_r/_d_e/_r_e_d_/./ _h_r_/n_e_/n_t/_e/,/_h_r_/w_u_d/_o_/b_/,/a_y/_e_l/_h_n_e/_n/_u_/d_s_g_s/,/ _n_y/_n/_u_/m_a_s/.'/" __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

04-18-2011, 01:32 PM	#475
Taniquetil Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 49	And lesser, Gandalf, my elf (sly?) friend and keeper! be we,? ? and speaking now in a ? voice. I said we, for we it can be, if you will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the elf ? and __________________ A Elbereth Gilthoniel! Hail Luthien Tinuviel! Hail Beren Erchamion and the fair Dior! Who died before his time, curse the oath of Feanor! Hail his daughter Elwing and Earendil! Forbearers of the Peredhil! Alone among the children free to choose the Edain or the Eldalie! A Elbereth Gilthoniel! Hail Manwe on Taniquetil!

04-18-2011, 02:32 PM	#476
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Corrections - "'And/l_s_e_/, Gandalf, my/_l_/friend and/_e_p_r/!'/_e/_a_d/,/_o_i_g/_e_r/ and speaking now in a/s_f_e_/voice. 'I said we, for we it/_a_/be, if you will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the /_l_/a_l_e_/and/ _o_i_i_s/_i_l/_o_/a_a_l/_s/_t/_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/ _u_e_o_/./T_i_/t_e_/i_/o_e/_h_i_e/_e_o_e/_o_/,/b_f_r_/u_/./W_/m_y/_o_n/_i_h/ _h_t/_o_e_/./I_/w_u_d/_e/_i_e/,/_a_d_l_/./T_e_e/_s/_o_e/_h_t/_a_/./I_s/_i_t_r_/ i_/a_/h_n_/;/a_d/_h_r_/w_l_/b_/r_c_/r_w_r_/f_r/_h_s_/t_a_/a_d_d/_t/./_s/_h_/ P_w_r/_r_w_/,/i_s/_r_v_d/_r_e_d_/w_l_/a_s_/g_o_/;/a_d/_h_/W_s_/,/s_c_/a_/y_u/ _n_/I/,/_a_/w_t_/p_t_e_c_/c_m_/a_/l_s_/t_/d_r_c_/i_s/_o_r_e_/,/t_/c_n_r_l/_t/./ _e/_a_/b_d_/o_r/_i_e/,/_e/_a_/k_e_/o_t/_h_u_h_s/_n/_u_/h_a_t_/,/d_p_o_i_g/ _a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/,/_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/:/ K_o_l_d_e/,/_u_e/,/_r_e_/;/a_l/_h_/t_i_g_/t_a_/w_/h_v_/s_/f_r/_t_i_e_/i_/v_i_/ t_/a_c_m_l_s_/,/h_n_e_e_/r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/b_/o_r/_e_k/_r/_d_e/_r_e_d_/./ _h_r_/n_e_/n_t/_e/,/_h_r_/w_u_d/_o_/b_/,/a_y/_e_l/_h_n_e/_n/_u_/d_s_g_s/,/ _n_y/_n/_u_/m_a_s/.'/" __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more!

04-19-2011, 12:35 AM	#477
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	"'And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helpter!' he said, coming near and speaking now in a softer voice. 'I said we, for we it can be, if you will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the old allies and /_o_i_i_s/_i_l/_o_/a_a_l/_s/_t/_l_/. /T_e_e/_s/_o/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/_u_e_o_/. /T_i_/t_e_/i_/o_e/_h_i_e/_e_o_e/_o_/,/b_f_r_/u_/. /W_/m_y/_o_n/_i_h/_h_t/_o_e_/./I_/w_u_d/_e/_i_e/,/_a_d_l_/. /T_e_e/_s/_o_e/_h_t/_a_/./I_s/_i_t_r_/i_/a_/h_n_/; /a_d/_h_r_/w_l_/b_/r_c_/r_w_r_/f_r/_h_s_/t_a_/a_d_d/_t/. /_s/_h_/P_w_r/_r_w_/,/i_s/_r_v_d/_r_e_d_/w_l_/a_s_/g_o_/; /a_d/_h_/W_s_/,/s_c_/a_/y_u/_n_/I/, /_a_/w_t_/p_t_e_c_/c_m_/a_/l_s_/t_/d_r_c_/i_s/_o_r_e_/, /t_/c_n_r_l/_t/./_e/_a_/b_d_/o_r/_i_e/, /_e/_a_/k_e_/o_t/_h_u_h_s/_n/_u_/h_a_t_/, /d_p_o_i_g/_a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/, /_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/: /K_o_l_d_e/,/_u_e/,/_r_e_/; /a_l/_h_/t_i_g_/t_a_/w_/h_v_/s_/f_r/_t_i_e_/i_/v_i_/t_/a_c_m_l_s_/, /h_n_e_e_/r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/b_/o_r/_e_k/_r/_d_e/_r_e_d_/. /_h_r_/n_e_/n_t/_e/,/_h_r_/w_u_d/_o_/b_/, /a_y/_e_l/_h_n_e/_n/_u_/d_s_g_s/,/_n_y/_n/_u_/m_a_s/.'/" Argh... no time right now. Speaker: Gandalf (recounting the words of someone else, I should say) __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

04-19-2011, 03:12 PM	#478
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	I think "helpter" is just "helper" "will not avail us at all" __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

04-19-2011, 03:37 PM	#479
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	"'And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helper!' he said, coming near and speaking now in a softer voice. 'I said we, for we it can be, if you will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the old allies and /_o_i_i_s/will not avail us at all. There is no/_o_e/_e_t/_n/_l_e_/o_/d_i_g/_u_e_o_/. This then is one/_h_i_e/before you, before us. We may soon/_i_h/_h_t/_o_e_/./It would be/_i_e/,Gandalf. [...] __________________ We are not things.

04-19-2011, 06:39 PM	#480
Beren3000 Fëanorophobic Join Date: May 2004 Location: Between the pages of a book Posts: 1,417	"'And listen, Gandalf, my old friend and helpter!' he said, coming near and speaking now in a softer voice. 'I said we, for we it can be, if you will join with me. A new Power is rising. Against it the old allies and dominions will not avail us at all. There is no more /_e_t/ in /_l_e_/o_/ doing /_u_e_o_/. This then is one choice before you, before us. We may soon wish that /_o_e_/./It would be wise,Gandalf. There is more that way. Its victory is at hand; and there will be rich reward for those that aided it. As the Power grows, its (proved?) friends will also grow; and the Wise, such as you and I, may with patience come at last to direct its course, to control it. We may bide our time, we may keep (our?) thoughts in our hearts, /d_p_o_i_g/_a_b_/e_i_s/_o_e/_y/_h_/w_y/, /_u_/a_p_o_i_g/_h_/h_g_/a_d/_l_i_a_e/_u_p_s_/: Knowledge, sure, /_r_e_/; all the things that we have so far striven in vain to accomplish, hindered /r_t_e_/t_a_/h_l_e_/be our /_e_k/ or /_d_e/_r_e_d_/. There need not be, there would not be, any real change in our designs, only in our means" Last edited by Beren3000 : 04-19-2011 at 06:44 PM.