Tolkien's Languages - Page 23

Wayfarer · 09-09-2003, 08:43 PM

*/nodnod.

But we presume that elves are smart enough and have a decent enough command of language not to use silly terms that don't really apply.

Ruinel · 09-10-2003, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Thank you!True, but geometry comes from Latin land (geo, sounds like geography) and to measure (metry sounds like measure). Or according to Dictionary.com.
Shape, cut is venwÃ«. Venwelestie, nice sounding.

*claps* bravo for doing the research, OrnelÃ*rÃ«.

You spent more time on that one word than I would have.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 09-15-2003, 06:34 PM

maybe to make sure this thread doesnt just up and die, we could write trivia or something in elvish? maybe? ok ok, silly idea. But we all say, let's talk about something, and then we don't!

Ruinel · 09-16-2003, 12:57 AM

Man nÃ¡ i epessÃ« an Frodo? ApalÃº vanwanÃ« minÃ« lepsÃ«. Gollum tyarnes.

Ruinel · 09-19-2003, 11:08 AM

Shana posted this in a new thread...

Quote:

For anyone who thinks they know their Quenya well; I could find no decent translation for this, though I am only an amateur. Please help if you can.
"Thou art Goddess"
or even...
"You are goddess"
would be fine.
Thanks,
Shan
....

you could say.. you is holy/angelic spirit or thou be holy/angelic spirit..
elyÃ«: thou; even thou. (formal.)
le: you. (informal)
nÃ¡: is; be. (since I'm assuming that the subject 'thou' is singular, then so should the verb. Nar is for plural subjects.)
aini: (fem.) holy one; angelic spirit; goddess.
Vala: angelic power. (The actual angels of Eru are the Valar (pl).)

"ElyÃ« nÃ¡ aini" would be my personal choice. But we can wait to see what OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ« suggests.

You are welcome here in this thread anytime. Feel free to ask questions, the Quendi love to help the Atani.

Falagar · 09-19-2003, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Shana posted this in a new thread...

you could say.. you is holy/angelic spirit or thou be holy/angelic spirit..
elyÃ«: thou; even thou. (formal.)
le: you. (informal)
nÃ¡: is; be. (since I'm assuming that the subject 'thou' is singular, then so should the verb. Nar is for plural subjects.)
aini: (fem.) holy one; angelic spirit; goddess.
Vala: angelic power. (The actual angels of Eru are the Valar (pl).)

"ElyÃ« nÃ¡ aini" would be my personal choice. But we can wait to see what OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ« suggests.

You are welcome here in this thread anytime. Feel free to ask questions, the Quendi love to help the Atani.

I we have an attested example of nalyÃ«, meaning "You are". Of course, elyÃ« would probably be just as good, and better attested...

Ruinel · 09-19-2003, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
I we have an attested example of nalyÃ«, meaning "You are". Of course, elyÃ« would probably be just as good, and better attested...

Ah.. yes, I forgot nalyÃ«. Sort of like nan for "I am".

Falagar · 09-19-2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Ah.. yes, I forgot nalyÃ«. Sort of like nan for "I am".

Anwa

, though I can't remember if nan is attested anywhere.

Ruinel · 09-19-2003, 01:12 PM

I posted a 'trivia' question in Quenya. Do you want to take a crack at it?

Quote:

Man nÃ¡ i epessÃ« an Frodo? ApalÃº vanwanÃ« minÃ« lepsÃ«. Gollum tyarnes.

Falagar · 09-19-2003, 01:14 PM

Yah, but then I have to look up some words...

Falagar · 09-19-2003, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Man nÃ¡ i epessÃ« an Frodo? ApalÃº vanwanÃ« minÃ« lepsÃ«. Gollum tyarnes.

What is Frodo's second name? After [he] lost one finger. Gollum caused it.

Answer: Frodo Nertelepsi (Frodo Ninefinger), tÃ©na?

Ruinel · 09-19-2003, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
What is Frodo's second name? After [he] lost one finger. Gollum caused it.

Answer: Frodo Nertelepsi (Frodo Ninefinger), tÃ©na?

Anwa!

post one yourself now.

Falagar · 09-19-2003, 01:40 PM

Hmmm...Man nÃ¡ i Quenya essÃ« an 'Elbereth'?

Ruinel · 09-19-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
Hmmm...Man nÃ¡ i Quenya essÃ« an 'Elbereth'?

"What is the Quenya name for 'Elbereth'?"

easy...

Varda

You can post another or wait for me to, or Ornelire might if she comes on. I'm getting my laundry done right now.

***Earniel*** · 09-21-2003, 06:45 AM

*pops up in thread again*

It's me again with my seemingly endless habbit of asking questions about Elvish.

I was wondering, what's the Elvish word for 'frog'? Yes, typically a question from me

You can give it in whatever Elvish dialect you know.

Ruinel · 09-22-2003, 01:52 PM

cabor is 'frog'. I know this because I used to call my brother tithen cabor all the time.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 09-22-2003, 04:26 PM

Anyone mind if I ask next?

Man nar UlumÃºri?

Falagar · 09-22-2003, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Man nar UlumÃºri?

I hyalmar Ulmoiva

An easy one:
Man carnÃ« i tengwar?

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 09-22-2003, 07:38 PM

cian · 09-22-2003, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
cabor is 'frog'. I know this because I used to call my brother tithen cabor all the time.

I would say maybe cabor dithen if you follow Helge's current advice (and I've seen a couple examples on Elfling too) ... though the following 'advice' begins with a seemingly unexpected form

'Another example is the name Nan Tathren, "Vale of Willows" or literally "Vale Willowy"; we might have expected *Nan Dathren instead. We probably have to assume that the discrepancies are simply due to the fact that there were many variants or dialects of Sindarin; the rules for where soft mutation occurs differed somewhat from dialect to dialect. (I would advise people writing in Sindarin to let adjectives lenit in this position, though, since this seems to be the main rule.)' ~that Helge guy

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09-09-2003, 08:43 PM	#441
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	*/nodnod. But we presume that elves are smart enough and have a decent enough command of language not to use silly terms that don't really apply. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

09-15-2003, 06:34 PM	#443
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	maybe to make sure this thread doesnt just up and die, we could write trivia or something in elvish? maybe? ok ok, silly idea. But we all say, let's talk about something, and then we don't! __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

09-19-2003, 01:14 PM	#450
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Yah, but then I have to look up some words... __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle. Last edited by Falagar : 09-19-2003 at 01:15 PM.

09-19-2003, 01:40 PM	#453
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Hmmm...Man nÃ¡ i Quenya essÃ« an 'Elbereth'? __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

09-21-2003, 06:45 AM	#455
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	pops up in thread again It's me again with my seemingly endless habbit of asking questions about Elvish. I was wondering, what's the Elvish word for 'frog'? Yes, typically a question from me You can give it in whatever Elvish dialect you know. __________________ We are not things.

09-16-2003, 12:57 AM	#444
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Man nÃ¡ i epessÃ« an Frodo? ApalÃº vanwanÃ« minÃ« lepsÃ«. Gollum tyarnes.

09-22-2003, 01:52 PM	#456
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	*cabor* is 'frog'. I know this because I used to call my brother tithen cabor all the time.

09-22-2003, 04:26 PM	#457
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Anyone mind if I ask next? Man nar UlumÃºri? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

09-22-2003, 07:38 PM	#459
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Feanor. EDIT: Manin (? to whom, manen=why) nÃ© i anesse Faelivrin antane? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" Last edited by OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« : 09-22-2003 at 07:47 PM.

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