"Temporary" Venting Thread V

[Tessar]

Originally Posted by The last sane person

Eh? Wassamatter?

Been spending tons of time on various websites checking out scientific/psychological/religious articles and saving them as PDFs, then making annotations of my own thoughts about their validity as well as trying to find supporting/dissenting arguments.

All I have so far is a crap-load of articles from every conceivable angle that all refute each-other pretty soundly. It's driving me over the freaking deep end.

It's also making me angry because of the reason that every article is able to refute every other article.... I have next to no real background in science or psychology, and I certainly don't pretend to be an expert in religion, but no one is doing their experiments properly. Even I can see that. Yet they're all publishing this $%(#) like it's some kind of revelatory gem of social scientific reasoning... Everyone is missing something, whether it's a proper test group, an appropriate field of questions/tests, follow up study, subject screening... or in many cases everyone relates their data back to -other- poorly done tests orrrr they use the "evidence" they find in their flawed experiment to "prove" something which is pretty much NOT capable of being proved by their "evidence."

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Yeah, I tend to take those kinds of studies with a grain, for precisely that reason; they all end up missing something. In the end, I tend to find it more helpful to let myself be guided by a general consensus of researchers, than to pin much hope on individual studies.

[Mari]

Yes, that. It's the same in Applied Linguistics. Give them researchers a mallet and they'll start bashing eachother's writings and methods of proving their theories, but their own research is rambling as well.
Plus, there is this group that never took a writing class so they generally just write whatever they think at the moment, without considering the people who have to read it. Seriously, have they never heard about "structuring"? >_<

[Jonathan]

*sigh*
I guess she and I weren't meant to be after all
On the positive side, I can rest easy knowing I gave it my best.

[Tessar]

Sorry Jonathan.

Did you mention that you were an administrator on Entmoot? I hear females find men with that kind of power irresistible.

[Mari]

I'm sorry to hear that.

Tess, I don't think Jon should mention it. I mean: would you like someone to date you just so they can say 'My boyfriend? Yeah, he's and administrator of a forum! Don't you just adore those people? *swoon*' and stay with you for only that reason? I think its better to be loved for who you are as a person than for the position you fulfil on a forum, impressive as that position may be.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Moothug.

[Jonathan]

Heh, thanks all

And oh yes Tessar, I did say I was an administrator and everyone was like "oooooh "
Then word spread that "hold on an sec, he's... he's just a lowly moderator! " and everybody went "booooo "

But you know for a while there when posing as an admin, I was the most sought-after bachelor in Northern Europe

[Varnafindë]

Sorry to hear that, Jon.

But if they don't appreciate a moderator, they don't deserve one

[Jonathan]

It's nice to hear that from another lowly mod
Nah, j/k. Thanks.

The appreciation part wasn't much of a problem really. It was more like two pieces of a puzzle that just wouldn't fit, despite some brilliant efforts from my part.

[Rían]

wait -

what are you talking about?

I can't find a post from Jon that makes sense with what is being said now. I'm in a bit of a hurry, but I've scanned twice - where is it?

[Earniel]

Sorry to hear it, Jonathan.

RÃ*an, look at post 444.

[Rían]

(yes, but that's the post that needs explanation!)

(But I guess we can fill in the blanks ... *adds a Moothug* )

[Tessar]

Guh, been frustrated with a lot of things for a while now. Particularly singing. I've been wanting to just give up for about three weeks now, although I haven't let myself "say" it till today. I keep trying to spin it off in a positive light, but that hasn't worked so I'm just going to be honest, and maybe that will help me get over it.

I refuse to give up. I will not give up until I have had some measure of real success, even if it takes me 50 years.

I think this is simultaneously the closest and furthest I've ever been from giving up. I am so determined to forge ahead and succeed, but at the same time I know that if I ease off at all, I will completely give up and possibly never look back. This isn't a "take a break and come back rested," moment, this is a "use it or lose it," moment. And I have no desire to keep going, but I have to.

I realized today that that's the only thing separating me from some of my super talented friends who have recently decided to drop out of performing and stop singing... or at least stop trying to sing professionally. They have their natural super talent with their enormous voices, huge vocal ranges, great musicality... etc.... but that doesn't mean a thing if you give up halfway to the goal line. If you give up in the middle of the race you can't even come in last, you just don't come in at all. So even though I don't have a tenth of their natural talent, or half the "instrument," I am going to succeed because I want that career one million times more than they do.

I just hate working so hard and wanting to quit. I know it has to pay off eventually. I really need something to change, because I want to give up so badly.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally Posted by Tessar

Guh, been frustrated with a lot of things for a while now. Particularly singing. I've been wanting to just give up for about three weeks now, although I haven't let myself "say" it till today. I keep trying to spin it off in a positive light, but that hasn't worked so I'm just going to be honest, and maybe that will help me get over it.

I generally find, in the struggles of life, that naming a particular struggle takes away a huge amount of its power. Just being able to look at it squarely in the face, and say, "I know what this is, and this is X" destroys a vast amount of the insidious and permeating influence these things can have, so congratulations for naming your enemy!

And, I know what you mean more generally. One of the things my undergraduate degree taught me was the skill of pressing on, even when I don't have any motivation to do so. The ability to see what needs to be done, and to just do it, even if you don't want to in any way, shape, or form, is an important part of success, I think, because the road will always reach that point.

So, this isn't original at all, but here goes anyway: keep plugging on. You know that it will pay off in the long run.

[Varnafindë]

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

So, this isn't original at all, but here goes anyway: keep plugging on. You know that it will pay off in the long run.

I second that.

[brownjenkins]

I'm disappointed that I can't respond to this thread...

http://entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=13253&page=21

In the old days it would have been tame by moot standards!

Thanks for the good thoughts GM and IR! The future is what we make it!

[GrayMouser]

Originally Posted by brownjenkins

I'm disappointed that I can't respond to this thread...

http://entmoot.com/showthread.php?t=13253&page=21

In the old days it would have been tame by moot standards!

Thanks for the good thoughts GM and IR! The future is what we make it!

Oh, c'mon- you can talk about how lovely the weather is in the Teacup Cafe, you can remark on how happy that makes you feel in the Happy Thread, and if it clouds over, you can vent about it here- what more do you want?

[brownjenkins]

Originally Posted by GrayMouser

what more do you want?

A little more democracy and a little less Tian'anmen Square.

It just saddens me sometimes how much more powerful fear is than any other human emotion.

But I'll get over it!

[Gwaimir Windgem]

My vent: I remember hearing, and liking, a chanson singer in her 20s or 30s, but now for the LIFE OF ME I can't remember who it was.