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As for your comments regarding "continue to look only at the attacks" You don't know me - so keep your damn speeches to yourself.
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10-11-2004, 05:28 PM | #422 | |
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But since you raise the French, Russian, Chinese etc deals with Saddam, let's consider them. They were well reported, but then I read such extreme leftist media such as the BBC so maybe I'm better informed. I remember seeing Putin signing a deal with Iraq on BBC news early in 2003. Some of these deals were part of the oil-for-food programme, whereby Iraq was allowed to sell oil to purchase food. Others were made in anticipation of sanctions being lifted. There's nothing wrong with that. There was indeed corruption involved in how they were executed (we now know, though we didn't at the time), but the deals themselves were legitimate. As we all know, they're not the only people to make deals with Saddam: This photo of Donald Rumsfeld taken shortly after Iraq had used chemical weapons against Iran and the Kurds, 20 years ago. What Bush et al didn't like about the deals was that Saddam had largely shut US oil companies out, and that the oil would be traded in euros, not dollars. That was Saddam's real crime. BTW, Serbs in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo attacked and killed thousands, supported by Milosevic. My God man, your memory is a bit suspect. Quote:
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Why not try something new and original - EQUAL accountability! Quote:
Why not just be safe and fair and try to keep BOTH sides EQUALLY accountable. If you see an innaccuracy on EITHER side, then report it. Quote:
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10-12-2004, 03:38 PM | #428 | |
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See my post directly above yours, and JD's post about 4 up where he quotes my question (and did the research and gave info)
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10-12-2004, 03:54 PM | #429 |
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Coalition of what?
Good luck with the URL. It's very, ummm, popular, today. Basically Norwegians complaining about Bush and Norway being in the coalition. FYI Norway is in Iraq? lol
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10-12-2004, 04:09 PM | #430 | |
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*Runs out and takes a series of evening classes entitled: 'How to read'.* *Returns.* Thanks. Is this of scandal proportions? As I say, I've seen nothing in UK news. We're far too concerned by whether or not our soccer captain has 'the brains' that people don't credit him with.
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Agan Gaffer - you point out stuff that happened during the cold war with the Soviet Union.
Also - the issue with Russia, China and France WAS NOT LEGAL. You must really have yoour head in the sand. Talk about having blinders on. Billions and billions of dollars were funnelled into Iraq, which did NOT go to support the Iraqi people. The oil was sold illegally. Quote:
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Scandal? Sadly, but NOT surprisingly, not at all. It was quickly buried. As JD said, he had to hunt for it. The faked CBS memo (against Bush), however, got lots of airtime, and not much time when it was proved a fake.
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Isn't that illegal, as well as just plain two-faced on Kerry's part (as I doubt he was expecting to receive Pope-approved Holy Communion at a Baptist church). Where are the cries of separation of church and state?
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And yes... contrast that with how we see, every election year, televised no less, Democratic candidates themselves speaking from the pulpits of African-American churches, from where they expect to receive Democratic voters. I bet THEY don't get any notification from the IRS. Baffling!
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My cousin just called me and said I would be happy to know he's decided he's voting for Bush. He watched the debates and decided that Kerry doesn't really have a plan and is just changing his story to try getting votes. I was sure he was going to end up voting for Kerry - because his brother is (I still have to work on him) Steve went in watching the debates leaning toward Kerry, decided he was going to watch the debates as being completely undecided and use that to make up his mind. He said he just doesn't think that Kerry will actually keep America safe.
He also told me that the marines asked if he would like to go into bootcamp early - or wait until January when he was scheduled to go. He decided to go early - so he's off after Thanksgiving.
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Perhaps "illegal" was the wrong word - from what I understand, non-profit entities cannot endorse candidates. That's what I meant. And Kerry was clearly being endorsed. He should know better (I'm sure he DOES). And he can't even say he was just going to a Baptist church for regular Sunday worship and *surprise!* Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson showed up - Kerry's Catholic! - he wouldn't go to a non-Catholic church for Mass
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