The Official Languages Thread - Page 21

Linaewen · 11-15-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
*sheepish grin*

I see you've looked into Dutch. Good job, I haven't seen a single error. Welkom terug!

Ja, 'looked into' would be right. I haven't made any attempt to pronounce those triphthongs yet, though.

Wie goed doet, goed ontmoet.

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I don't really think Dutch is that beautiful but I wouldn't trade my Flemish language for any in the world! It has its moments so to speak, and certain great phrases that are impossible to translate in any othe language.

Oh, that's impressive! Would you be able to translate for us a few examples of those phrases?

Lai, I've just noticed you put 'Sverige' as one of your interests in your profile.

Du stal min man, and now my obsession too. *Glares*

***Earniel*** · 11-15-2003, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
Oh, that's impressive! Would you be able to translate for us a few examples of those phrases?

Ooh, let me think...

Most of it is dialect I think.

"Ik ga even de geit verzetten."
"I'm going to move the goat."
We hear this sentence once in a language game on TV. Apparantly 'moving the goat' in Dutch is an old way of saying 'going to the toilet'.

We thought this so hilarious that we used that certain sentence at home ever since. But it loses a bit of charm in the translation. And the 'even' doesn't quite have a english counterpart as far as I now, it means as much as 'for a second, for a while' but not quite IMO.

I'll see if I can come up with more intranslatable Flemish.

Lalaith · 11-16-2003, 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
[B]No, you're Austrian

[/]

Oopsie.

Did I really say German? How embarrassing.

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Originally posted by Jonathan
[B]

What is the German word for /kärring/?
Ok, what about sked (spoon)?/B]

Hexe or Alte Frau
At least I think so.

According to a pronunciations site:
SK wird zu (deutsch: "SCH") wenn es vor einem dieser Buchstaben steht: e, i, y, ä, ö.
wich means .... Sk gets a german sch when it is before the letters: e, i, y, ä, ö
So I think it is like the german Schule.
But I am not quite shure, as I think you have mentioned that pronunciation before.

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Originally posted by Jonathan
And yes, I'm recommending Kent to everybody

I like them.
Vi blev som dom andra

Lin, I didn't steal anything. Plus: you can still come here and anticipate my wedding.

jerseydevil · 11-16-2003, 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
And yes, I'm recommending Kent to everybody

I have more Kent than you do though.

Linaewen · 11-16-2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
Ooh, let me think...

Apparantly 'moving the goat' in Dutch is an old way of saying 'going to the toilet'. We thought this so hilarious that we used that certain sentence at home ever since.

That is rather funny. It reminded me of the polite way of saying 'Do a poo' or 'Wee' in Cambodian. Literally, 'Pooing' is 'Squatting big' and 'Weeing' is 'Squatting small'.

There are also some other ways of expressing the need to go to the toilet.

I was only kidding about you translating those things, by the way, just to frustrate you. I love those untranslatable things of languages. In Chinese, a way of expressing disbelief is by saying 'your head!'. As in 'Big, you head!' for 'It's big, my a**!'.

Ok, let's do a Kent poll. I would have much more Kent if a) I had a faster connection or b) if those who had Kent on their computer were even online for me to download it off them.

jerseydevil · 11-16-2003, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
Ok, let's do a Kent poll. I would have much more Kent if a) I had a faster connection or b) if those who had Kent on their computer were even online for me to download it off them.

I've gotten everything that I was able to find off of Kazaa.

I have -
Utan Dina Andetag
747
December
Pärlor (my favorite)
If You Were Here (english)
Avtryck
De Andra
Kärleken Väntar
Sverige
Socker
Om du Var Här (If you were here - Swedish version)
Kräm
Istället för Ljud

***Earniel*** · 11-16-2003, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
I was only kidding about you translating those things, by the way, just to frustrate you. I love those untranslatable things of languages. In Chinese, a way of expressing disbelief is by saying 'your head!'. As in 'Big, you head!' for 'It's big, my a**!'.

I knew you were kidding.

The untranslatable things are what make the different languages so unique IMO. I think you can only say you master a different language if you understand the words and expressions that have no equal translated counterpart in your own language.

Lalaith · 11-16-2003, 07:11 AM

Well, I only have Dom Andra and Pärlor. Too sad. Too sad. Should start WinMX now.

Linaewen · 11-16-2003, 07:12 AM

Ack, du har fler sånger än jag, JD.
Jag har:

Om du var har
Kärleken väntar
Bianca
Vad två öron klarar
En himmelsk drog
Sverige

I've put it roughly in order from favourite to least here. I hate Sverige, it's so slow and unlike the rest of their music I have.

Hur mycket förstår du? (of the lyrics, jag menar)
Jag ska få 'Pärlor' och 'Dom Andra' nu.

[Edit] And now I have 'Dom Andra' too. Wow, it's very easy to understand compared to some other songs.
...and now also Pärlör.

***Jonathan*** · 11-16-2003, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
I hate Sverige

How can you say that? I hate Australia!

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Originally posted by Linaewen
Hur mycket förstår du? (of the lyrics, jag menar)

The lyrics are so strange that even I can't understand them

Lalaith · 11-16-2003, 07:24 AM

Jon, could you please help me with something?

Du sa som det var och det kändes så bra så nu kan jag göra nånting själv, göra nå’t själv.
I think the first part means You say how it was and that sounds so good .... (at least I understand it that way)
but could you please tell me what the rest means?
Tack.

***Jonathan*** · 11-16-2003, 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
Du sa som det var och det kändes så bra så nu kan jag göra nånting själv, göra nå’t själv

'You said how it was and it felt so good so now I can do something myself, sm'thing myself'

Linaewen · 11-16-2003, 07:35 AM

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Posted by Eärniel
I knew you were kidding. The untranslatable things are what make the different languages so unique IMO. I think you can only say you master a different language if you understand the words and expressions that have no equal translated counterpart in your own language.

I agree to all of that! Send me that Dutch stuff now, if you please.

I don't care if it's half-finished, I want it now!

And Lai, send me some German essay of yours too, will you dear?

*Awaits to see if her own translation matches that of the Swede*

Lalaith · 11-16-2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
'You said how it was and it felt so good so now I can do something myself, sm'thing myself'

TACK. Jag lärde mycket av dig.

(I don't have the talent to learn sentences online as well as Lin, but I know some ...

)

Yah, I can try .... let me think. I have one about asylum. I'll send it to you later.

Linaewen · 11-18-2003, 04:50 AM

Ben je gereed om koningin van het oerwoud te zijn tot de dag waarop wij onze tocht gaan maken?

Lalaith · 11-18-2003, 03:26 PM

I thought once more about the /sk/ pronunciation you are searching. The one pronounced like the spanish /j/. I think that would be a german /ch/ like in the word ICH.

jellyfishannah · 11-18-2003, 05:12 PM

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Is nekulturny the correct spelling of the word?

I believe it's nyekulturny...which means 'incultured' or 'uncivilised' (at least I think so

) I'm not sure. Of course since I am writing it with the Latin alphabet, it's all phonetic.

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How are you typing all these Russian characters. anyway?

ummmmm...It's not very, VERY complicated but...for a computer-illiterate geek like me it's, well.....

My russian teacher taught me how to set my computer to type different alphabets. I still have the email. But it's only for Windows XP.

So...

***Earniel*** · 11-19-2003, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
Ben je gereed om koningin van het oerwoud te zijn tot de dag waarop wij onze tocht gaan maken?

Waar komt dit vandaan?

Queen of the jungle... nehheh.

***Jonathan*** · 11-19-2003, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
I thought once more about the /sk/ pronunciation you are searching. The one pronounced like the spanish /j/. I think that would be a german /ch/ like in the word ICH.

Info assimilated. However in that case, if the German /ch/ sound in ICH is pronounced like Spanish /j/, then it is not really the same sound as Swedish /sk/ in eg SKED (though there are some Swedes who pronounce it that way).

Lalaith · 11-19-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
Info assimilated. However in that case, if the German /ch/ sound in ICH is pronounced like Spanish /j/, then it is not really the same sound as Swedish /sk/ in eg SKED (though there are some Swedes who pronounce it that way).

Hmmmm ... I thought you werer talking about pronouncing it like the spanish /j/ ... am I wrong? Or is it just similar to the spanish /j/?

Anyway, what does "I am ill" mean in Swedish?

11-16-2003, 07:11 AM	#408
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Well, I only have Dom Andra and Pärlor. Too sad. Too sad. Should start WinMX now. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-16-2003, 07:12 AM	#409
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	Ack, du har fler sånger än jag, JD. Jag har: Om du var har Kärleken väntar Bianca Vad två öron klarar En himmelsk drog Sverige I've put it roughly in order from favourite to least here. I hate Sverige, it's so slow and unlike the rest of their music I have. Hur mycket förstår du? (of the lyrics, jag menar) Jag ska få 'Pärlor' och 'Dom Andra' nu. [Edit] And now I have 'Dom Andra' too. Wow, it's very easy to understand compared to some other songs. ...and now also Pärlör. Last edited by Linaewen : 11-23-2003 at 05:45 AM.

11-16-2003, 07:24 AM	#411
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Jon, could you please help me with something? Du sa som det var och det kändes så bra så nu kan jag göra nånting själv, göra nå’t själv. I think the first part means You say how it was and that sounds so good .... (at least I understand it that way) but could you please tell me what the rest means? Tack. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-18-2003, 03:26 PM	#416
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I thought once more about the /sk/ pronunciation you are searching. The one pronounced like the spanish /j/. I think that would be a german /ch/ like in the word ICH. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

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