What people think of Two Towers (*SPOILERS*) - Page 21

eowyngirl14 · 01-06-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Cirdan
Maybe it's the odd green glow you're eminating.

Oh that... it happens all the time... something in the water the doctors say!

I liked the agimili humor... i didn't at first, but it isn't really that bad!

But I agree about Aragorn falling of the cliff. VERY VERY VERY pointless...

LuthienTinuviel · 01-06-2003, 08:59 PM

Aren't the Female soldiers just the Haradrim?
I always thought that they helped out sauron. And, coming from a place like africa or egypt (which i KNOW is in africa!

) they would have that olive-y skin tone and dark thick eyelashes
yes, the makeup was done terribly, and i could have done much better, but i think that thick curly lashes was the effect that they shot for. They missed that target, but there's my two cents anyways.

Churl · 01-08-2003, 12:08 AM

What I noticed is that Jackson and company went out of their way to portray the Easterners and Southrons as Caucasian. I think this was a wise decision — with isolated but vocal twerps like Shapiro crying "racism," the filmmakers probably wished to avoid unflattering real-world ethnic parallels like the plague.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-08-2003, 04:41 AM

That was a well thought-out post Huan, and I think it deserves a comment. I especially enjoyed your humorous run-down of all the idiotic scenes, but you left out the excorcism of Theoden.

The first time I saw TTT, I cringed and writhed during the major and pointless book deviations. The second time, I actually enjoyed it more than FOTR, for its pure entertainment value, completely seperate from the book.

I have to disagree with you on two points. One, even though the scene in Osgiliath was definately well filmed, the part where Frodo tries to give the Nazgul the Ring was so incredibly lame, it destroyed the otherwise decent scene. I consider Sam's speech immediately after to be seperate, because he actually says something like that in the book, and it's very moving.

Two, I liked Faramir in the book enough to be saddened and horrified that his character was stripped of the dignity and will power that he had in the book.

Parts that I still cringe at (and probably always will) are:
1. Dwarf tossing jokes (Seriously! This is not Austin Powers!!)
2. Osgiliath
3. Aragorn-cliff scene
4. Those ridiculous looking Wargs that aren't scary.

eowyngirl14 · 01-08-2003, 05:17 PM

the wargs are reallly cute! they look like little puppies! only with ADD or something!

i though they were kinda scary! But then again, they could easily be Stitch from Lilo and Stich reincarnated!

Huan · 01-09-2003, 12:25 AM

Nurvingiel, I neglected Theoden's "in tha name of the Lord ah release thee" scene because I hadn't read the real thing in a while. Just reread it during jury duty (arrgh), and everyone's right, they really should have left that scene alone. I was also reminded of this line of Gimli's that I wish had made the movie: "Since Gandalf's head is now sacred, let us find one that is right to cleave!" Perhaps in my reread I will learn to respect Faramir properly, but I suppose no one could seem to me worthy of Eowyn.

TinuvielChild · 01-09-2003, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
the wargs are reallly cute! they look like little puppies! only with ADD or something! i though they were kinda scary! But then again, they could easily be Stitch from Lilo and Stich reincarnated!

Ummmm......

Eruviel Greenleaf · 01-09-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by Huan
Perhaps in my reread I will learn to respect Faramir properly, but I suppose no one could seem to me worthy of Eowyn.

I've never liked Faramir for the same reason--likewise, I did not mind the character changes so much in the movie

Huan · 01-09-2003, 01:35 AM

Quote: I've never liked Faramir for the same reason--likewise, I did not mind the character changes so much in the movie

Yeah. I think the guy playing him at least will make a pretty picture in the same frame as the movie's Eowyn. In my mind, I always saw this dumb-looking guy with a handle-bar mustache and long hair, like Frank Zappa or a member of Three Dog Night: might explain why I thought him unworthy of a daughter of kings.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 01-09-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Huan
Yeah. I think the guy playing him at least will make a pretty picture in the same frame as the movie's Eowyn. In my mind, I always saw this dumb-looking guy with a handle-bar mustache and long hair, like Frank Zappa or a member of Three Dog Night: might explain why I thought him unworthy of a daughter of kings.

I wish he had dark hair, like he was supposed to in the book. That would make a prettier picture, at least

**Nurvingiel** · 01-09-2003, 05:38 PM

No problem about leaving out the Theoden thing Huan! I find whenever I make a long list, I always leave out one thing... TTT book deviations make a pretty long list.

Even though a lot of my posts along these lines are very negative, I actually really enjoyed watching TTT. Maybe it just rankles me that PJ and his writers thought this was a tangeant, when TTT is my favourite book.

barrelrider110 · 01-10-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by eowyngirl14
the wargs are reallly cute! they look like little puppies! only with ADD or something! i though they were kinda scary! But then again, they could easily be Stitch from Lilo and Stich reincarnated!

I think they looked like bears. Did they talk?

BeardofPants · 01-10-2003, 03:06 PM

I believe I heard one of them say, "My porridge is too hot."

Arathorn · 01-10-2003, 04:53 PM

I thought they looked like wingless, soggy balrog cubs.

Lizra · 01-10-2003, 05:13 PM

Their mouths were funky!

BandobrasBaggins · 01-10-2003, 06:50 PM

I'm new to this board but I thought the TTT movie was outstanding and the best movie of the year.

durin's bane · 01-10-2003, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eowyngirl14
the wargs are reallly cute! they look like little puppies! only with ADD or something! i though they were kinda scary! But then again, they could easily be Stitch from Lilo and Stich reincarnated!

Wargs cute? I always pictured Wargs as big, muscular, purple-and-black wolves. The Wargs weren't cute, but...whatever you say...

'Course, I can't talk....I thought Gollum was cute.

Lady of Rohan · 01-10-2003, 07:06 PM

I've got a question about what happened with Aragorn after he had that fight with the warg rider. He fell off a cliff right? then did he die or was he just knocked out or did he die and just come back to life?

durin's bane · 01-10-2003, 07:11 PM

He died but then Arwen comes and does her little prayer thing (how many times is she going to do this? she did it with Frodo too) and he comes back alive. I would've preferred if he had stayed dead, though. I really hate Aragorn.

cassiopeia · 01-11-2003, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by durin's bane
He died but then Arwen comes and does her little prayer thing (how many times is she going to do this? she did it with Frodo too) and he comes back alive. I would've preferred if he had stayed dead, though. I really hate Aragorn.

Why didn't she save Boromir then?

I have no idea what the scriptwriters were thinking when they wrote that part. Frodo didn't die, he was fading. I hope she doesn't do anything like that in the ROTK. Hmm, maybe she will save Eowyn. Could be interesting........

01-06-2003, 08:59 PM	#402
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	Aren't the Female soldiers just the Haradrim? I always thought that they helped out sauron. And, coming from a place like africa or egypt (which i KNOW is in africa! ) they would have that olive-y skin tone and dark thick eyelashes yes, the makeup was done terribly, and i could have done much better, but i think that thick curly lashes was the effect that they shot for. They missed that target, but there's my two cents anyways. __________________

01-08-2003, 05:17 PM	#405
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	the wargs are reallly cute! they look like little puppies! only with ADD or something! i though they were kinda scary! But then again, they could easily be Stitch from Lilo and Stich reincarnated! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-10-2003, 03:06 PM	#413
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I believe I heard one of them say, "My porridge is too hot." __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

01-10-2003, 04:53 PM	#414
Arathorn Bard of Mangled Songs Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West of Middle Earth...oh alright...Manila Posts: 2,679	I thought they looked like wingless, soggy balrog cubs. __________________ Power attracts the corruptible. Absolute power attracts the absolutely corruptible. -Missionaria Protectiva, Frank Herbert *Accio, Ash Nazg!* Elennuru s?la lúmenn' omentielvo* (The Death Star shines on the hour of our meeting) - Darth Arathorn Put aside the ranger... Start looking for Mumakil action figures...

01-10-2003, 05:13 PM	#415
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Their mouths were funky! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

01-08-2003, 12:08 AM	#403
Churl Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 128	What I noticed is that Jackson and company went out of their way to portray the Easterners and Southrons as Caucasian. I think this was a wise decision — with isolated but vocal twerps like Shapiro crying "racism," the filmmakers probably wished to avoid unflattering real-world ethnic parallels like the plague.

01-09-2003, 12:25 AM	#406
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	Nurvingiel, I neglected Theoden's "in tha name of the Lord ah release thee" scene because I hadn't read the real thing in a while. Just reread it during jury duty (arrgh), and everyone's right, they really should have left that scene alone. I was also reminded of this line of Gimli's that I wish had made the movie: "Since Gandalf's head is now sacred, let us find one that is right to cleave!" Perhaps in my reread I will learn to respect Faramir properly, but I suppose no one could seem to me worthy of Eowyn.

01-09-2003, 01:35 AM	#409
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	Quote: I've never liked Faramir for the same reason--likewise, I did not mind the character changes so much in the movie Yeah. I think the guy playing him at least will make a pretty picture in the same frame as the movie's Eowyn. In my mind, I always saw this dumb-looking guy with a handle-bar mustache and long hair, like Frank Zappa or a member of Three Dog Night: might explain why I thought him unworthy of a daughter of kings.

01-10-2003, 06:50 PM	#416
BandobrasBaggins Sapling Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 4	I'm new to this board but I thought the TTT movie was outstanding and the best movie of the year.

01-10-2003, 07:06 PM	#418
Lady of Rohan Doughy Elf Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 1,006	I've got a question about what happened with Aragorn after he had that fight with the warg rider. He fell off a cliff right? then did he die or was he just knocked out or did he die and just come back to life?

01-10-2003, 07:11 PM	#419
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	He died but then Arwen comes and does her little prayer thing (how many times is she going to do this? she did it with Frodo too) and he comes back alive. I would've preferred if he had stayed dead, though. I really hate Aragorn. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

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