09-28-2005, 05:32 PM | #401 | |
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and the poster is NOT inked.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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09-28-2005, 05:38 PM | #402 | |
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It's terrible to have false things believed and/or said about you I certainly do NOT hate or dislike GLB people, and I'm NOT afraid of them. They're people, just like you and me
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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09-28-2005, 05:40 PM | #403 |
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(ps - nice to see you, BoP! )
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
09-28-2005, 09:03 PM | #404 | |
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09-28-2005, 09:24 PM | #405 |
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For what it's worth, I get the distinct feeling, DISTINCT feeling that Inked - you sir, inked, may be just a tad bit homophobic. Perhaps I am wrong - but then, you called me racist and uber-liberal for disliking Condoleeza Rice, when here I am literally a card-carrying Republican whose best friend is Mexican, and whose former (he's dead now, R.I.P. Cornell I love U) best friend was a black man.
Truly, inked, perhaps it may be time one checks oneself before one wrecks oneself. It can be terribly damaging to one's credibility when one comes across as biased as you, sir, tend to be able to.
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09-28-2005, 09:42 PM | #406 | |
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What I am trying to show is this - someone comes on the thread and makes a comment about gay-bashing, and looking at the recent posts in this thread, the ONLY really emotional and inflammatory (IMHO) dialogue comes from a person that no one would ever say is a gay-basher - you! I don't think it's right or wise to use language like that, especially when discussing an emotional topic like this, and ESPECIALLY when you can't support your allegations that inked said/thought those things. Please provide quotes when you make those allegations against a person - I think that's only fair, don't you? I think the only bashing going on here is what I quoted and I wish it would stop and that we can engage in a dialogue that will be helpful to both sides. This issue is tearing many people apart - let's try to repair some of the hurt and make some bridges
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 09-28-2005 at 09:45 PM. |
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09-28-2005, 09:43 PM | #407 |
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Tell that to Inked, then.
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are you talking to me? Sorry, I"m not sure - we may have cross-posted...
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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I'll repeat : I don't think it's right or wise to use language like that, especially when discussing an emotional topic like this, and ESPECIALLY when you can't support your allegations that inked said/thought those things. Please provide quotes when you make those allegations against a person - I think that's only fair, don't you? (ps - actually, I should say I don't mind when you "tell it like it is" as long as you don't use abusive language against another person. Not that that matters, I imagine )
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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The things I quoted in post #402, inked never said.
That's why I'm asking for quotes. And I defy IRex to prove inked thinks those things. I don't think people have the right to say in such a definitive manner that someone is thinking something, when they have never said it. That's what I mean.
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Inked did NOT use those words - that's my point! IREX is the one that used those words! (attributing them to inked, who never used them)
I think you are supposed to think inked thinks what he says. When did he use phrases like "evil bad gay anal sex", for example?
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How about let's you & I let those two bitch it out; I refuse to be a cheerleader 4 anyone but my boyfriend - we're both getting too caught up in THEIR little thing.
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but I would defend IRex if the tables were turned!
I'm not cheerleading for any particular side; I'm cheerleading for what I think are fair and honest tactics. But I think I'll leave the thread for tonight - need to keep an eye on that fire situation ... *prays for her firefighter friends*
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I'm not going to put words in anyone's mouth here.
But I agree with this point, paraphrased: You demonstrate that anal sex is risky, now what are you going to do about it? I don't think anyone is saying that anal sex isn't risky, what some people are saying is, now that we know anal sex is risky, what do you propose we do? I have a few ideas (I think I posted them earlier in this thread - maybe even in its first incarnation), but I'll put it to R*an and Inked first: what do you guys propose? Anyone else can, of course, feel free to chip in. The reason I'm putting this question to R*an and Inked is because, due to your posts in this thread, you seem to think that anal sex (which is the type of sex most frequently practiced by gay men) is a bad idea. If you do not think it's a bad idea, then never mind. But if you do think it's a bad idea, what do you propose people do to mitigate the risks?
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Hats off to IR for calling a spade a spade.
I could very well point out, in a dispassionate and academic manner, that men of african origin have a higher rate of prostate cancer, or that mountaineers have a higher rate of calling in the goddam air ambulance than the rest of the population and therefore they are a burden on the rest of us. But the real point, and one that I'm disappointed you don't seem to get behind, Rian, is that gays are the way they are, there is value in who they are and how they love, in and of themselves just like everybody else, and they have a RIGHT to express themselves sexually. This is particularly the case when one starts from a first principle of equality. Were this NOT the case, the implication is that we do not have equality between people of different sexual orientation and therefore we have grounds to discriminate against them. The purpose of all this unseemly data trawling and spin is to undermine that essential proposition of equality, and that's why it's homophobic. |
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