The Official Languages Thread - Page 20

Ruinel · 11-12-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Grey_Wolf
Perhaps I'm veering off the subject but I always thought that Irish and Scottish accents have a certain charm to them and the accents of southern US have a "warm" feeling to them. Don't ya'll think so to?

LOL!! How funny! Your location says 'Sweden' and Jonathan is from 'Sweden' also... he says he HATES the Southern (US) accent.

Artanis · 11-12-2003, 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Grey_Wolf
Perhaps I'm veering off the subject but I always thought that Irish and Scottish accents have a certain charm to them and the accents of southern US have a "warm" feeling to them. Don't ya'll think so to?

I agree. I think outhern US accent has a lazy, sexy sound.

***Valandil*** · 11-12-2003, 03:00 PM

Way-ell... HOW-dee ma-am!

Artanis · 11-12-2003, 03:14 PM

Ehrm. Very nice. Veeery nice.

***Valandil*** · 11-12-2003, 04:09 PM

So... does "Southern" qualify as a language around these here parts?

Reminds me: after Jimmy Carter was elected US President in 1976, someone came out with a cute little booklet called "How to Speak Southern" - it was a riot!

If "Southern" is NOT an acceptable language for this thread... well, I had some Deutsch in der Hoch Schule (drei Jahre... mit einer (r??) sehr gute Lehrerin - aber es ist vor uber zwanzig Jahre!). I speak only bits of Spanish and remember a little of the Mandarin I learned for my China trip.

Uh... did I say that German part right?

Lalaith · 11-12-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Artanis
I agree. I think outhern US accent has a lazy, sexy sound.

I don't know, but I don't like it when it gets to lazy ....

Grey_Wolf · 11-12-2003, 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
LOL!! How funny! Your location says 'Sweden' and Jonathan is from 'Sweden' also... he says he HATES the Southern (US) accent.

Does he now? How rude.

jellyfishannah · 11-12-2003, 10:49 PM

Zdravstvuy!(hello) The thing about russian is it's hard to pronounce so many consonants! For english-speakers anyway...I know a russian guy who was saying that it is hard to pronounce so many vowels!

Important russian sentences...Let's see...lol. I've really only started learning. The learning-a-new-alphabet thing wasn't a problem at all, really. The worst parts so far are the verbs of motion and cases. I haven't really gotten into the verbs of motion, thank goodness. But I hear it's pretty crazy.

Russian pronunciation is pretty simple. I was listening to my mother explaining to my youngest sister about long a's and short e's and all that junk....I was horrified! How do they expect people to understand such a complicated language? lol.

But really...when you think about it...in english, any vowel can sound like any other vowel. There are almost no rules. That is, compared to other languages. Scary. I'm glad I was born into the language instead of trying to learn it mid-life.

***Khamûl*** · 11-13-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by Artanis
I agree. I think outhern US accent has a lazy, sexy sound.

Music to my ears as long as you don't deduct about 20 IQ points immediately after hearing the Southern accent.

BTW, I started a thread about accents here a while back.

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=6834

jellyfishannah · 11-13-2003, 11:29 AM

Here's an 'important' russian sentence: 'Ya skuchayu po tebye.' (I miss you)

Tell me if you can see these russian letters...(maybe some of you can and some of you can't)

? ?????? ?? ????.

Argh! It's so hard to type in russian when you don't know where the letters are!

(not to mention, I'm pretty bad at typing in english, anyway)

jellyfishannah · 11-13-2003, 11:32 AM

It didn't work! That's so annoying!

jellyfishannah · 11-13-2003, 11:40 AM

Oh, and, "Kak dyela?" is, basically, "How're things?"

Dobriy dyen-Good day

Dobriy vecher-Good evening

pozhaluysta-please (used as 'please' and 'you're welcome')

Shto?-What?

Kto?-Who?

Kogda?-when?

inogda-sometimes

vsegda-always

Artanis · 11-13-2003, 11:46 AM

Russian reminds me of Yugoslavian. Not surprising.

Grey_Wolf · 11-13-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by jellyfishannah
Oh, and, "Kak dyela?" is, basically, "How're things?"

Dobriy dyen-Good day

Dobriy vecher-Good evening

pozhaluysta-please (used as 'please' and 'you're welcome')

Shto?-What?

Kto?-Who?

Kogda?-when?

inogda-sometimes

vsegda-always

Is nekulturny the correct spelling of the word?

ayarella · 11-13-2003, 11:52 AM

Hey jellyfishannah! Would you be interested in typing in spanish with me?

***Jonathan*** · 11-15-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
Hectorberlioz, there are languages both beautiful and pronounceable. Swedish, for one. Oh, which leads me to something else. Jonathan, what's the most common pronunciation of the sk sound? I've heard it as Spanish /j/, German 'ich as well as this /sh/+/f/ sound.
Thanks! (That's the only pronunciation problem I have)

So you think Swedish is pronounceable? Sometimes Ruinel sometimes ACKs about how it's seemingly impossible to pronounce Swedish words, especially those with lots of consonants

Världsschlager! (8 consonants in a row

).
The most common pronunciation of the /sk/ sound? Surely that must the [s]+[k] sound, like in the English word /skull/.
/sk/ can also be pronounced like the German word ich. /sk/ has a third possible pronunciation too, which might be a little similar to Spanish /j/ but still it's different. I have no idea of how to describe the sound

. I'm sure it exists in German but I never had German so I can't come up with any German word as an example

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Originally posted by Falagar
I've heard that many Swedish people like Norwegian better than Swedish (this is of course just something I've heard, we should ask Jonathan if it's true).

Nah

. Norwegian has a sweet intonation but I like Swedish better

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
LOL!! How funny! Your location says 'Sweden' and Jonathan is from 'Sweden' also... he says he HATES the Southern (US) accent.

I don't hate the Southern accent, it just isn't my favourite English accent

. I agree with Grey Wolf that the Scottish and Irish accents have a certain charm.

Linaewen · 11-15-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
So you think Swedish is pronounceable? Sometimes Ruinel sometimes ACKs about how it's seemingly impossible to pronounce Swedish words, especially those with lots of consonants Världsschlager! (8 consonants in a row ).

Vad bra! Ruinel, are you learning svenska too?
Wow! 8 consonants! That takes the cake; I've been analysing so many words lately and I've been trying to find one with the most consonants in a row. But that's a compound word, eller hur? So it doesn't count.

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The most common pronunciation of the /sk/ sound? Surely that must the [s]+[k] sound, like in the English word /skull/.

Oh yeah, I meant followed by a soft/front vowel, i.e. e, i, y, ä, ö

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/sk/ has a third possible pronunciation too, which might be a little similar to Spanish /j/ but still it's different. I have no idea of how to describe the sound

. I'm sure it exists in German but I never had German so I can't come up with any German word as an example

The third sound I have seen described as this saying f with the mouth in sh position. Consequently, it is ..ah hem..slightly difficult.
Unfortunately I have heard the lead singer of Kent pronounce them all three ways. Ack! *Delights that she has the translation, though*

Eh! Everybody, we Aussies have charming accents too, thanks very much!

Lalaith · 11-15-2003, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Jonathan
So you think Swedish is pronounceable? Sometimes Ruinel sometimes ACKs about how it's seemingly impossible to pronounce Swedish words, especially those with lots of consonants Världsschlager! (8 consonants in a row ).
The most common pronunciation of the /sk/ sound? Surely that must the [s]+[k] sound, like in the English word /skull/.
/sk/ can also be pronounced like the German word ich. /sk/ has a third possible pronunciation too, which might be a little similar to Spanish /j/ but still it's different. I have no idea of how to describe the sound . I'm sure it exists in German but I never had German so I can't come up with any German word as an example

I am german ... maybe I could come up with a word. But not at the moment.

I also don't have any problems with pronouncing so many consonants.

I hate the word kärring, it's so not similar to any german pronunciation of /k/.

Jon, give me a swedish word with /sk/ and I try to figure out a german word.

And are you recommending Kent to everybody?

Linaewen · 11-15-2003, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by jellyfishannah
Here's an 'important' russian sentence: 'Ya skuchayu po tebye.' (I miss you)

Tell me if you can see these russian letters...(maybe some of you can and some of you can't)

No, I can't see them, though I can see Russian characters on another site?! I can also see Hebrew and I think Arabic characters, as well as the Roman alphabet.

How are you typing these Russian characters, anyway?

Tjena Lai!
Who's the question about Kent addressed to? I discovered Kent on my own, tack så mycket! Ommm duuuu varrr häääärrr...

Kärring looks nice to me, though its meaning is a bit..strange. Jag älskar svensk /u/, like it the word /slut/. (No, I'm not being rude, I just like that word!)
Nu ska vi tala på svenska här, Lai!

***Jonathan*** · 11-15-2003, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
I am german ... maybe I could come up with a word. But not at the moment.

No, you're Austrian

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
I also don't have any problems with pronouncing so many consonants.

I hate the word kärring, it's so not similar to any german pronunciation of /k/.

What is the German word for /kärring/?

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Originally posted by Lalaith
Jon, give me a swedish word with /sk/ and I try to figure out a german word.

And are you recommending Kent to everybody?

Ok, what about sked (spoon)?

And yes, I'm recommending Kent to everybody

11-12-2003, 03:14 PM	#4
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Ehrm. Very nice. Veeery nice. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

11-12-2003, 10:49 PM	#8
jellyfishannah Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Library, may it live forever!!! Posts: 269	Zdravstvuy!(hello) The thing about russian is it's hard to pronounce so many consonants! For english-speakers anyway...I know a russian guy who was saying that it is hard to pronounce so many vowels! Important russian sentences...Let's see...lol. I've really only started learning. The learning-a-new-alphabet thing wasn't a problem at all, really. The worst parts so far are the verbs of motion and cases. I haven't really gotten into the verbs of motion, thank goodness. But I hear it's pretty crazy. Russian pronunciation is pretty simple. I was listening to my mother explaining to my youngest sister about long a's and short e's and all that junk....I was horrified! How do they expect people to understand such a complicated language? lol. But really...when you think about it...in english, any vowel can sound like any other vowel. There are almost no rules. That is, compared to other languages. Scary. I'm glad I was born into the language instead of trying to learn it mid-life. __________________ "Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much." ~Oscar Wilde "Don't tell lies you can't keep." ~My little sister...

11-13-2003, 11:29 AM	#10
jellyfishannah Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Library, may it live forever!!! Posts: 269	Here's an 'important' russian sentence: 'Ya skuchayu po tebye.' (I miss you) Tell me if you can see these russian letters...(maybe some of you can and some of you can't) ? ?????? ?? ????. Argh! It's so hard to type in russian when you don't know where the letters are! (not to mention, I'm pretty bad at typing in english, anyway) __________________ "Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much." ~Oscar Wilde "Don't tell lies you can't keep." ~My little sister...

11-13-2003, 11:32 AM	#11
jellyfishannah Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Library, may it live forever!!! Posts: 269	It didn't work! That's so annoying! __________________ "Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much." ~Oscar Wilde "Don't tell lies you can't keep." ~My little sister...

11-13-2003, 11:40 AM	#12
jellyfishannah Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Library, may it live forever!!! Posts: 269	Oh, and, "Kak dyela?" is, basically, "How're things?" Dobriy dyen-Good day Dobriy vecher-Good evening pozhaluysta-please (used as 'please' and 'you're welcome') Shto?-What? Kto?-Who? Kogda?-when? inogda-sometimes vsegda-always __________________ "Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much." ~Oscar Wilde "Don't tell lies you can't keep." ~My little sister...

11-12-2003, 03:00 PM	#3
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Way-ell... HOW-dee ma-am!

11-12-2003, 04:09 PM	#5
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	So... does "Southern" qualify as a language around these here parts? Reminds me: after Jimmy Carter was elected US President in 1976, someone came out with a cute little booklet called "How to Speak Southern" - it was a riot! If "Southern" is NOT an acceptable language for this thread... well, I had some Deutsch in der Hoch Schule (drei Jahre... mit einer (r??) sehr gute Lehrerin - aber es ist vor uber zwanzig Jahre!). I speak only bits of Spanish and remember a little of the Mandarin I learned for my China trip. Uh... did I say that German part right?

11-13-2003, 11:46 AM	#13
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Russian reminds me of Yugoslavian. Not surprising. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

11-13-2003, 11:52 AM	#15
ayarella Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I am living in a large city with smog!!!!!! Posts: 27	Spanish speakers/writers! Hey jellyfishannah! Would you be interested in typing in spanish with me? __________________ always trying to learn something- aya

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