05-05-2006, 07:56 AM | #381 |
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I'll second that BoP. I've often seen "conservatives" questioned as to why they are so obsessed with what goes where and never seen a satisfactory answer.
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05-05-2006, 11:59 AM | #382 |
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Well, I can give you a couple of responses to that, but I'm expecting someone any minute so it will have to wait a few hours.
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05-05-2006, 01:49 PM | #383 |
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Well, I don't feel qualified to make blanket statements about gayness because it's not my life and my frame of reference is different.
But I do know that when they moved in next door, the property value went up. I kid you not. My new neighbors have really fixed up that run-down old place next door. I hope another gay couple moves in on the other side. I hope the whole street goes gay. Then I could re-finance and combine my two mortgages. As it happens the neighbors on the other side are the flag-waving leave-a-rusty-car-parked-on-the-lawn type. The guy has a mullet, even. Maybe if I put up a rainbow flag they'll sell their property to some more gays. If so, I'll be the first bring them a welcoming chocolate cake! I suppose some folks will think I'm making this up. It's all true. My city is becoming a Mecca for gays, and our property values are going through the roof, so to speak! It's because they decorate, I think. The yards have flowers and they keep them mowed. It's really nice here now. When all the anti-gay people leave, it will be an even better place. |
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P. S. Marion, in response to your question: Any form of sexual activity.
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05-05-2006, 02:47 PM | #386 |
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What makes you assume that only heterosexuals believe homosexuality is wrong? QUOTE] you be saying personally be yes Mr Gwai man Windy gem that this is case no? |
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05-05-2006, 03:24 PM | #391 |
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Sorry, BJ, the so-called "conservatives" are supposed to answer.
Anyway, you're not supposed to say "Fear of Change", but "Fear of Things They Don't Know".
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05-05-2006, 03:26 PM | #392 |
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thanking you be anyways Mr gwai man windythingy ... hah ha funny name be! mr Gwaimir Windgem easy peesy be to copy name is! |
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I'll have to speak only for myself, and I'll say that I am NOT by any means "obsessed" with "what goes where". If the pro-gay people want to stop bringing things into public, then I'd be thrilled. I'd love to stop hearing about the details of other people's sex lives, believe me - I'm tired of signs like "Gay Love Rules" which shoves "what goes where" into my face. Tell the people who go to the White House Easter Egg roll wearing rainbow hats to stop being "obsessed" and putting their sexuality in the public square. They are supporting homoSEXUAL marriage - of course it involves sex. And I repeat - I'd be thrilled if they take it out of the public and do whatever they want to in private. So this "obsession" about "what goes where" knock about conservatives is just totally invalid, IMO. More later - gotta get ready for the kiddos!
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05-05-2006, 05:59 PM | #396 |
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Yeah great but the point is that you arent letting them keep it in private and out of your face. Thats WHY they are demonstrating. Because they are being told what they can and cant do. Wouldnt you demonstrate and keep it in public? Its folly to blame people for reacting to restrictions imposed on them by others.
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You'll be waiting a long time. These people have TV shows based on this premise - you know, the gay guys make over some poo hetero slob so he can look nice for a date with (yuch!) a girl. On the other hand, if I were to say that limp-wristed effiminate acting alleged males who wore pink and purple well always made superb interior designers, I'd probably get blasted for being bad, acting nasty, and violating the political correctness taboo. And don't even get me started on the need for a national society for the protection of gerbils - wait, doesn't PETA do that when they're not doing each other (without regard to gender or orientation)?
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As for getting blasted for violating political correctness... some will blast you, yes. For my part, I know blasting you, or anyone else for not being politically correct won't do any good. It won't eliminate any stereotypes and no one can be politically correct all the time, if you try, you just end up sounding silly. Quote:
The 'don't ask, don't tell' system only fosters the inequality. And even when homosexuals do keep to themselves it doesn't make them any less discriminated against. Do you see what I'm getting at? About why it has to be brought into the public? Very few people really want to flaunt themselves and make others uncomfortable. That is not the goal, the goal is to be treated on an equal level, to not be forced to hide our relationships with the threat of ostracism or violence hanging over our heads if we don't and to have our long term relationships be recognized by the government as being on an equal level with marriage. Is equality really so much to ask?
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05-05-2006, 07:38 PM | #399 |
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I thought gay rights were about hospital visits, parental privileges, inheritance, and all that. I didn't know it was about sex. Whoa!
I am a bisexual, and a member of PETA. So, hi! I'm sorry, let me clarify, I am a monagamous bisexual in a committed relationship with a member of the opposite sex, who is also a monogamous bisexual in a committed relationship with a member of the opposite sex. As I said, my frame of reference is different. Last edited by Elfhelm : 05-05-2006 at 07:41 PM. |
05-05-2006, 07:48 PM | #400 |
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That's called civil partnership. Marriage is a different issue - for which we have a separate thread.
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