Depression - Page 2

Ragnarok · 08-20-2003, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by LuthienTinuviel
that sounds like youve pulled it out of a dictionary.

Eh, I have read my fair share of articles and researched some information about depression (no I'm not claiming to be a know-it-all but those things i had listed above were common). I have also looked into shyness and social anxiety disorder which I might have. I'm not sure which one I have because shyness and social phobia are very closely related but I think its just shyness. Anyway it is a fact that almost half of social phobics also suffer from depression or some other mental illness such as obsessive-compulsive disorder for example. The reason I am mentioning this is because most social phobics suffer from low self-esteem, poor self-image, and little self-worth which are the same symptoms that are found in some cases of depression.

***azalea*** · 08-20-2003, 10:40 PM

I used to want to kill myself when I was a teenager (My favorite fantasy about it was that I wanted to cut open the side of my mattress, take out some of the springs and hide them, then get inside and sew it up from the inside and then stay there, and no one would know where I was) -- I think many do, because it's such an awful time in life for most of us, despite what the media is constantly telling us (and the images we see of perfect teens with perfect lives -- or not so perfect teens who always find a way to deal with things that allow them to come out on top -- probably make it worse). But I was too curious about who I would be and what I'd be doing as an adult to go through with it (along with other more obvious reasons). And I'm I glad I didn't do it? Absolutely -- being an adult is hard in many ways, but life is definately worth living. You have the freedom to be who you want and to make your own choices (of course, that does come with responsibilities). Besides, I was never one to shy away from a challenge, and that's how I look at life a lot of times -- as a challenge that I can attempt to "win" by taking it day by day and acting in the best way I can to "succeed." It's worked so far!

Ruinel · 08-21-2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Valaróma

errrr...

... excuse me for pointing this out to all of you... but... isn't this the same stupid @$$ that claimed her sister was killed in a car accident? And then she posted a pic, from an accident that occured 8 yrs ago, of the actual accident where Blackboar supposedly died. Give me a break people!

There's more I could say, but I just won't.

Ragnarok · 08-21-2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
errrr... ... excuse me for pointing this out to all of you... but... isn't this the same stupid @$$ that claimed her sister was killed in a car accident? And then she posted a pic, from an accident that occured 8 yrs ago, of the actual accident where Blackboar supposedly died. Give me a break people!

There's more I could say, but I just won't.

Oh... I had no idea... I don't check these boards enough to keep track of these types of things.

Sheeana · 08-22-2003, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
errrr... ... excuse me for pointing this out to all of you...

Some of us had noticed. Does that somehow invalidate this topic?

***IronParrot*** · 08-22-2003, 12:27 PM

Don't let that distract you from the legitimate discussion here.

A word of advice to the depressed: self-mutilation is completely unnecessary, I assure you. I highly recommend the following:

- reading cheerful literature
- watching movies (particularly musicals)
- board games (you wouldn't believe how well this works)

Having never felt suicidal in my life I can't entirely sympathize, but it might also help to remember that you have so much more to look forward to. Two more Harry Potter books, another Star Wars movie, another LOTR movie - and that's just for starters...

***Khamûl*** · 08-22-2003, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by IronParrot
- watching movies (particularly musicals)

Somehow, I don't think musicals would help me if I was depressed. Unless you consider The Blues Brothers a musical.

***azalea*** · 08-22-2003, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronParrot
...remember that you have so much more to look forward to. Two more Harry Potter books, another Star Wars movie, another LOTR movie - and that's just for starters...

LOL, I love this!

I know, sometimes I think "oh, no, what if I die before seeing the final SW installment!"

As if that is right up there with "I won't get to experience my kids' growing up," etc.!

Sminty_Smeagol · 08-23-2003, 10:25 PM

i think anyone who's been here a while,,, came here when I used to come here has guessed my answer... mebbe lol
I wrote an interesting paper on teen depression (+suicide and self mutilation) for my school. Interesting stuff. men are something like 4 times as likely to kill themselves as women... but women make more efforts...

Anglorfin · 08-24-2003, 12:55 AM

Ahh depression. It's a hard topic. But I think everyone has their own individual ways of dealing with it. Mostly because everybody's idea of happiness is different. The only danger in happiness is if it's an object or a person responsible for your happiness and it goes away, then you are right back at sqaure one and probably worse off than to begin with.

It's hard to find happiness that stays, mostly because it has to come from inside, not outside. I hate to say this but it's true, NOTHING OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF IS GARUANTEED 100% PERMANENT. I guess for me it's not so much an issue about finding happiness but being able to accept things as the natural flow of life, realizing that there will be lows and doing all you can to prepare for them and riding the storm to its end.

Argh, I hate to ramble about such a personal topic but this is how it is for me. I'm not asking you to agree, but this is how I view depression and my apparent distrust of happiness.

Bombadillo · 08-24-2003, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronParrot
Don't let that distract you from the legitimate discussion here.

A word of advice to the depressed: self-mutilation is completely unnecessary, I assure you. I highly recommend the following:

- reading cheerful literature
- watching movies (particularly musicals)
- board games (you wouldn't believe how well this works)

Having never felt suicidal in my life I can't entirely sympathize, but it might also help to remember that you have so much more to look forward to. Two more Harry Potter books, another Star Wars movie, another LOTR movie - and that's just for starters...

I think if I was depressed and I took your advice here, I'd probably just feel crazy. I'm not sure why, that's just how it would happen.

Anglorfin-
Really? I actually find it extremely easy to deal with losses and bad times and whatnot. I always ask myself "What are you gonna do?" in any situation. If there is no answer, if you can't do anything, then meh, no reason to fuss then is there? Problem solved.
Trust me, I do know what you mean and I know my method is a bit abnormal and in some cases it seems socially unacceptable. Like if Dad died or something, I'd still have memories of him and I know it would suck that he's dead, but honestly, I wouldn't care. I couldn't, so I wouldn't.

Either way I hope this helps people. "What are you gonna do?"

kiwi · 09-09-2003, 04:41 PM

thanx! it has helped slightly!

dorfsquest · 09-10-2003, 02:19 PM

I've been depressed quite often. Not THAT suicidal. Small things that people stopped me at, but I'd rather not get into talking about it.

I don't want to kill myself though. Too many things to like in my life. I just sometimes hate myself. I feel incompetent at whatever I put my hands to, even though people say it isn't true.

Starr Polish · 09-12-2003, 04:50 PM

Sminty, isn't that because men are more likely to use more effective methods, such as guns, while women usually choose pills, which often simply make you really sick? I remember that from my psych class.

Cheerful literature and happy sappy movies make me more depressed when I'm in an extremely low, dark mood. Being around certain people helps if they aren't trying too hard to cheer me up. If they try to hard I just get angry for some reason.

A good thing I've found is turning up the radio extremely loud (I suggest Dashboard Confessional or Thursday) and screaming the lyrics.

I think that in the past decade or so depression has become 1) more acceptable to admit to and 2) glorified and glamorized. Pressure on teens HAS become extremely high, and I can't stand the whole "this person isn't perfect but managed to get exactly what he/she wanted anyway", because it's so unrealistic. I've never been diagnosed with depression, but I have had what I call "episodes", and I've gotten into some destructive behaviors because of self esteem problems and the like. I guess I'm very good at hiding it, because people that don't know me very well think I'm very confident when that's a complete lie.

Rána Eressëa · 09-14-2003, 07:55 PM

I've been depressed before. I've had suicidal thoughts before. I've never actually done anything to myself, though. I can't willingly inflict that kind of pain on my body.

My depression wasn't about hating myself. It was life that I had the big issue with. I was pissed off with everyone else and hating everyone but me. I challenged and forsook all my beliefs and came out as a completely different person. I was quite self-destructive for about a year, though. I became an anarchist. Not exactly the best times of my life.

I think getting caught breaking the law was a good thing for me, because that's what woke me up. If that had not have happened, I would have continued down that path and something worse would have happened to me. I think if you're doing something bad, you should be introduced to the consequences of it in a way that will scare the crap out of you, and chances are you'll come around. That's what happened to me.

I'm well past my depressive state, and I honestly can't see myself going there again because I've faced most of the worst that life can throw at me already. And I'm only seventeen years old.

I hope you can figure out a way out of it. Life will get better somehow. It always does. Most people just don't give it the chance.

08-22-2003, 12:27 PM	#26
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	Don't let that distract you from the legitimate discussion here. A word of advice to the depressed: self-mutilation is completely unnecessary, I assure you. I highly recommend the following: - reading cheerful literature - watching movies (particularly musicals) - board games (you wouldn't believe how well this works) Having never felt suicidal in my life I can't entirely sympathize, but it might also help to remember that you have so much more to look forward to. Two more Harry Potter books, another Star Wars movie, another LOTR movie - and that's just for starters... __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

08-23-2003, 10:25 PM	#29
Sminty_Smeagol Manic Cardboard-Box Dweller Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In a house Posts: 1,071	i think anyone who's been here a while,,, came here when I used to come here has guessed my answer... mebbe lol I wrote an interesting paper on teen depression (+suicide and self mutilation) for my school. Interesting stuff. men are something like 4 times as likely to kill themselves as women... but women make more efforts... __________________ I love the fishes.

08-24-2003, 12:55 AM	#30
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	Ahh depression. It's a hard topic. But I think everyone has their own individual ways of dealing with it. Mostly because everybody's idea of happiness is different. The only danger in happiness is if it's an object or a person responsible for your happiness and it goes away, then you are right back at sqaure one and probably worse off than to begin with. It's hard to find happiness that stays, mostly because it has to come from inside, not outside. I hate to say this but it's true, NOTHING OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF IS GARUANTEED 100% PERMANENT. I guess for me it's not so much an issue about finding happiness but being able to accept things as the natural flow of life, realizing that there will be lows and doing all you can to prepare for them and riding the storm to its end. Argh, I hate to ramble about such a personal topic but this is how it is for me. I'm not asking you to agree, but this is how I view depression and my apparent distrust of happiness. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

09-09-2003, 04:41 PM	#32
kiwi Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Land Of The Un-Known Posts: 173	thanx! it has helped slightly! __________________ FEAR can hold you prisoner.............................But HOPE can set you free!

09-12-2003, 04:50 PM	#34
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Sminty, isn't that because men are more likely to use more effective methods, such as guns, while women usually choose pills, which often simply make you really sick? I remember that from my psych class. Cheerful literature and happy sappy movies make me more depressed when I'm in an extremely low, dark mood. Being around certain people helps if they aren't trying too hard to cheer me up. If they try to hard I just get angry for some reason. A good thing I've found is turning up the radio extremely loud (I suggest Dashboard Confessional or Thursday) and screaming the lyrics. I think that in the past decade or so depression has become 1) more acceptable to admit to and 2) glorified and glamorized. Pressure on teens HAS become extremely high, and I can't stand the whole "this person isn't perfect but managed to get exactly what he/she wanted anyway", because it's so unrealistic. I've never been diagnosed with depression, but I have had what I call "episodes", and I've gotten into some destructive behaviors because of self esteem problems and the like. I guess I'm very good at hiding it, because people that don't know me very well think I'm very confident when that's a complete lie. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-20-2003, 10:40 PM	#22
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I used to want to kill myself when I was a teenager (My favorite fantasy about it was that I wanted to cut open the side of my mattress, take out some of the springs and hide them, then get inside and sew it up from the inside and then stay there, and no one would know where I was) -- I think many do, because it's such an awful time in life for most of us, despite what the media is constantly telling us (and the images we see of perfect teens with perfect lives -- or not so perfect teens who always find a way to deal with things that allow them to come out on top -- probably make it worse). But I was too curious about who I would be and what I'd be doing as an adult to go through with it (along with other more obvious reasons). And I'm I glad I didn't do it? Absolutely -- being an adult is hard in many ways, but life is definately worth living. You have the freedom to be who you want and to make your own choices (of course, that does come with responsibilities). Besides, I was never one to shy away from a challenge, and that's how I look at life a lot of times -- as a challenge that I can attempt to "win" by taking it day by day and acting in the best way I can to "succeed." It's worked so far!

09-14-2003, 07:55 PM	#35
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I've been depressed before. I've had suicidal thoughts before. I've never actually done anything to myself, though. I can't willingly inflict that kind of pain on my body. My depression wasn't about hating myself. It was life that I had the big issue with. I was pissed off with everyone else and hating everyone but me. I challenged and forsook all my beliefs and came out as a completely different person. I was quite self-destructive for about a year, though. I became an anarchist. Not exactly the best times of my life. I think getting caught breaking the law was a good thing for me, because that's what woke me up. If that had not have happened, I would have continued down that path and something worse would have happened to me. I think if you're doing something bad, you should be introduced to the consequences of it in a way that will scare the crap out of you, and chances are you'll come around. That's what happened to me. I'm well past my depressive state, and I honestly can't see myself going there again because I've faced most of the worst that life can throw at me already. And I'm only seventeen years old. I hope you can figure out a way out of it. Life will get better somehow. It always does. Most people just don't give it the chance.

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