France Bans 'e-mail' from vocabulary - Page 2

Spock · 07-22-2003, 01:42 PM

France has "language police" to keep the language pure. It's one of the few things they have that I wish the US had.

Ruinel · 07-22-2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by gdl96
If Quebec were to split from Canada some time in the future, what do you think will happen to eastern Canada? They would be separated from the rest of canada.

Alaska is separated from the US, and they are doing just fine.

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Originally posted by Spock
France has "language police" to keep the language pure. It's one of the few things they have that I wish the US had.

What language would the US want to keep pure? That is insane!

If the US had a 'language police' to keep any language pure in the US, I'd be one of the first people arrested in a protest, I'm sure.

jerseydevil · 07-22-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Spock
France has "language police" to keep the language pure. It's one of the few things they have that I wish the US had.

Why should the US have a similar thing? It';s one of the great things that make English and America so great. English grows and expands and is more accepting of words. America accepts immigrants and they bring their heritage and it gets incorporated into the American fabric. Both have the effect of making America a much more rich and exciting culture and making the English language more rich and expressive.

Spock · 07-22-2003, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
Why should the US have a similar thing? It';s one of the great things that make English and America so great. English grows and expands and is more accepting of words. America accepts immigrants and they bring their heritage and it gets incorporated into the American fabric. Both have the effect of making America a much more rich and exciting culture and making the English language more rich and expressive.

I DIDN'T say that. I said I wished we had it. They are two different things. .......

jerseydevil · 07-22-2003, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Spock

I DIDN'T say that. I said I wished we had it. They are two different things. .......

I knew what you were saying. But why would you wish we had "language police"? I don't want English to become a closed off language. I think the introduction of foreign words is what makes English such a rich and descriptive language.

***gdl96*** · 07-22-2003, 05:26 PM

didn't I start the Canada Wars?
Well, not me, actually. That was greg at age 13. I am greg at age 17 now. Much has changed

I keep taking my own thread off topic.

jerseydevil · 07-22-2003, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by gdl96
didn't I start the Canada Wars?
Well, not me, actually. That was greg at age 13. I am greg at age 17 now. Much has changed

I keep taking my own thread off topic.

Yeah - it was you and IP mostly. But don't worry - everyone knows the US is the best. They just have a hard time admitting it.

And yeah - this thread has somewhat gone off topic. But it's not COMPLETELY off topic.

Spock · 07-22-2003, 05:32 PM

"Canadian Bacon" w/John Candy.

Ruinel · 07-22-2003, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Spock
I DIDN'T say that. I said I wished we had it. They are two different things. .......

Then what do you mean?

Spock · 07-22-2003, 08:10 PM

I said exactly what I meant and meant exactly what I said not one thing more or less. It's all in the verbage of those who commented.

jerseydevil · 07-22-2003, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by Spock
I said exactly what I meant and meant exactly what I said not one thing more or less. It's all in the verbage of those who commented.

Well then you wish that the US had the "language police" like the french. I however - I like the fact that English is such a dynamic language and isn't afraid of incorporating foreign words into it's vocabulary.

Spock · 07-22-2003, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
Well then you wish that the US had the "language police" like the french. I however - I like the fact that English is such a dynamic language and isn't afraid of incorporating foreign words into it's vocabulary.

what IS your problem my fellow American?

you like
I wish
this isn't a dictatorship
we can have differing views, that's what America is all about

More we should be outraged that Streisand's husband (Brolin) is playing R. Regan in the fall sweeps on CBS.

Ruinel · 07-22-2003, 08:34 PM

Dude! This thread is about the 'language police' of the French gov't banning non-French words! And you are saying it would be nice to do that in the US?

jerseydevil · 07-22-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Spock
what IS your problem my fellow American?

Nothing is wrong - I'm just wondering why you would want a "language police".

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you like
I wish
this isn't a dictatorship
we can have differing views, that's what America is all about

No it's not a dictatorship - but if there were "language police" - then it would be on it's way to becoming one then.

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More we should be outraged that Streisand's husband (Brolin) is playing R. Regan in the fall sweeps on CBS.

That is outrageous - but what would you expect - Hollywood is mostly liberal. I'm actually surprising they're doing a movie on Ronald Reagan though. I figured they would have picked Hollywood's darling - Bill Clinton. I wonder if they'll include how Ronald Reagan was a Democrat and then abandoned the party for the Republicans.

Ruinel · 07-23-2003, 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by Spock
More we should be outraged that Streisand's husband (Brolin) is playing R. Regan in the fall sweeps on CBS.

NO!!! A movie about Ronald Regan!!! NO!!!!!!!

Note to self: throw television out the window

***IronParrot*** · 07-24-2003, 02:00 PM

jerseydevil, it's interesting that you bring up America as being accepting of the dynamism of the English language. One little-known hot topic of the past few years is the official dictionary for tournament Scrabble. The rest of the world has switched to a combined American-British dictionary, including Britain itself - but America is still governed solely by the American lexicon (which does include British variants and the like - it's the obscurer words and mistaken omissions that really make the difference).

***Earniel*** · 08-13-2003, 04:48 AM

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Originally posted by gollum9630
on topic: France is stupid for banning the word e-mail. itll be to hard to do

No, I don't think they'll find it that very hard to do. In my view the word e-mail isn't used much in French altogether. In school we were taught 'le courrier électronique' as the french translation for e-mail. And I've never heard 'e-mail' used in French before. Though it stands to reason, try and give some french sound to e-mail. It just doesn't sound right. I can understand why the French want to change it. I hadn't heard 'courriel' either but that's what I'll be using in French for now on.

PS: Draken, I believe the word 'entrepreneur' is also French.

***HOBBIT*** · 08-13-2003, 10:52 AM

I thought they used e-mail. The french use a ton of english words.

Were you taught that french word for email in france or in a french class? There is a difference.

One example of english words in french would be "le weekend" I was taught that as the weekend (currently taking french).

My mom has told me that the french gov tried to ban that word too - it didn't work, and neither will banning email; im sure that they use it.

***Earniel*** · 08-13-2003, 02:41 PM

I know there'a difference. I learned it in French class, though my teacher lived the better part of her life in France.

Now that I think of it, of course there should be at least some of the French who use e-mail. What the use of banning the word otherwise? All I can say is that I haven't heard a Frenchman use the word e-mail before.

I must admit I forgot all about the word weekend. Since we've got the same word in Dutch, I forgot it was originally English. My mistake. Did they try to ban weekend as well? Never would have guessed. In class I learned both 'week-end' and 'fin de la semaine'.

07-22-2003, 01:42 PM	#21
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07-22-2003, 05:32 PM	#28
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07-22-2003, 08:10 PM	#30
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	I said exactly what I meant and meant exactly what I said not one thing more or less. It's all in the verbage of those who commented. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

07-24-2003, 02:00 PM	#36
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	jerseydevil, it's interesting that you bring up America as being accepting of the dynamism of the English language. One little-known hot topic of the past few years is the official dictionary for tournament Scrabble. The rest of the world has switched to a combined American-British dictionary, including Britain itself - but America is still governed solely by the American lexicon (which does include British variants and the like - it's the obscurer words and mistaken omissions that really make the difference). __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

08-13-2003, 10:52 AM	#38
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	I thought they used e-mail. The french use a ton of english words. Were you taught that french word for email in france or in a french class? There is a difference. One example of english words in french would be "le weekend" I was taught that as the weekend (currently taking french). My mom has told me that the french gov tried to ban that word too - it didn't work, and neither will banning email; im sure that they use it. __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

07-22-2003, 05:26 PM	#26
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	didn't I start the Canada Wars? Well, not me, actually. That was greg at age 13. I am greg at age 17 now. Much has changed I keep taking my own thread off topic.

07-22-2003, 08:34 PM	#33
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Dude! This thread is about the 'language police' of the French gov't banning non-French words! And you are saying it would be nice to do that in the US?

08-13-2003, 02:41 PM	#39
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I know there'a difference. I learned it in French class, though my teacher lived the better part of her life in France. Now that I think of it, of course there should be at least some of the French who use e-mail. What the use of banning the word otherwise? All I can say is that I haven't heard a Frenchman use the word e-mail before. I must admit I forgot all about the word weekend. Since we've got the same word in Dutch, I forgot it was originally English. My mistake. Did they try to ban weekend as well? Never would have guessed. In class I learned both 'week-end' and 'fin de la semaine'. __________________ We are not things.

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