pronunciations - Page 2

Gamigar · 07-01-2003, 01:03 AM

Oh well

***Rían*** · 07-01-2003, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Sheeana
I know it's supposed to be Tol-keen, but I say Tol-kin. Too hard to break the bad habits I'm afraid.

Yeah, me too.

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Originally posted by cassiopeia
If I remember correctly, Tolkien said in the Letters that it's pronounced 'Tol-keen'. If that's how Tolkien says it, then that's how we should say it. Unfortunately I've been saying 'Tol-kin' for years, so I always have to correct myself.

Like I always said 'Leg-gol-las', instead of 'Lego-las'. [/B]

Yes, IIRC he says in Letters that it's Tol-keen, but I've been saying Tol-kin for years, too, and it's hard to break. I said Legolas as "Le-GO-las" because it reminded me of the Legos toys to say it the other way.

***Jonathan*** · 07-05-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by Artanis
I say Tol-kee-en, with emphasis on the first syllable, but only because that's the natural Norwegian pronunciation

The same with my language, it's natural to say 'TOL-kee-en'. I don't think anyone says 'tohl-keen' where I live.

I pronounce Legolas 'leh-goh-las', don't care that it reminds me of the Lego toys

Ruinel · 07-05-2003, 03:19 PM

We pronounce his name...
Velicë Ingolmo Eldaron

HobbitChick88 · 07-24-2003, 04:47 PM

I've heard Tolkien pronounced both ways, but I think Tol-keen is the right way, though I'm not sure. However, I usually pronounce it Tolkin b/c people around here will give me weird looks if I pronounce it the other way

. No idea why though...

cee2lee2 · 07-24-2003, 11:07 PM

I've always heard it as Tol-keen, so that's how I've pronounced it.

Ornelírë Mistë · 07-27-2003, 11:44 AM

When I first came across the name, I pronounced it like: "toh-ki-en", with not much of an L sound in there. Though I still think that sounds better, I use tol-keen now.

GrayMouser · 07-29-2003, 05:38 AM

I still can't say "Souron" instead of "Sawron".

Bombadillo · 07-29-2003, 05:49 AM

I say Toll-kun. As in, a toll atr a bridge, and then something that rhymes with gun.

Elbereth Gilthoniel · 08-02-2003, 04:41 PM

don't know if anyone remembers me, haven't been for a while. but pople where nice and even sayd happy birthday to me.

I have no idea what's the diffrence between Tolkin to tolkeen to anything else that have been written, I think I could hear the diffrence. but even if I can I don't know to spel it, so I don't know which of them I'm saying.

But I have no problem saying Sauron of legolas of any other name. Maby hebrew accent good for the names, but it'll probebly just sound wierd to anyone who doesn't know it.

Durin1 · 08-21-2003, 08:43 AM

Definitely pronounce it the British way! Americans are Americans and they will have their own peculiarities concerning pronunciation of words (meant as no offence!), but Tolkien was British and the name itself has a long history so it should be pronounced the way the Tolkien family would have.

p.s (only slightly relevant)

I'm from Birmingham, England, which just happens to be where Tolkien was brought up and where his family was from. It's probably well known but Tolkien got a lot of inspiration for names from the regional dialect - "Gamgee" for instance

TopazJedi · 08-29-2003, 09:26 PM

What does Gamgee mean?

***azalea*** · 08-31-2003, 02:36 PM

I forget (I don't think it has a meaning, but is an actual English name or play on an English name), but it was discussed in a couple of threads. If you do a search, you're sure to find one.
Ooh, an opportunity to use my new knowlege from reading Letters!

Tolkien wished he had given a different last name, one that made more sense in terms of geography (? I think) -- that his mental equivalent to the Gamgees was a different type of English counrtyside type. But his son Christopher (in the army at that time) would not let him change it because he liked Gamgee (so do I!).

I am currently listening to the American radio play of LotR (I wanted the BBC version, but didn't know this was not it), and it's driving me batty because they keep placing the accent of names on the second syllable instead of the first, and I say the names with the accent on the first syllable (which I think is correct). For instance, they pronounce SARuman as sarUman. And LEGolas as legOlas. They are doing that with other names, too.

cassiopeia · 09-01-2003, 10:41 PM

I listened to the same play, azalea. What annoyed me was that they pronounced "Sauron" as "Sore-ron" All you have to do is have a peep in the appendices to check how it's pronounced. And Frodo with an American accent does not sound right to me.

***azalea*** · 09-02-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by cassiopeia
I listened to the same play, azalea. What annoyed me was that they pronounced "Sauron" as "Sore-ron" All you have to do is have a peep in the appendices to check how it's pronounced. And Frodo with an American accent does not sound right to me.

Oh, yeah, Sore-on bugs me, too!
I don't know that I'm going to even have time to finish listening to it before I have to take it back.

cassiopeia · 09-02-2003, 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by azalea
Oh, yeah, Sore-on bugs me, too!
I don't know that I'm going to even have time to finish listening to it before I have to take it back.

I didn't get to finish it all either; I only listened to about half of the CDs. Reading the book is so much better.

07-01-2003, 01:03 AM	#21
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07-24-2003, 04:47 PM	#25
HobbitChick88 Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Sweet Home Alabama Posts: 237	I've heard Tolkien pronounced both ways, but I think Tol-keen is the right way, though I'm not sure. However, I usually pronounce it Tolkin b/c people around here will give me weird looks if I pronounce it the other way . No idea why though... __________________ "Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars..." ~The Hobbit "And if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose for yourselves this day whose you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." -Joshua 24:15 Step follows step, Hope follows courage. Set your face toward danger Set your heart on victory! "Where is Elizabeth?" "She's safe, just like I promised. She's all set to marry Norrington just like she promised, and you get to die for her just like you promised. So we're all men of our word, really....except for Elizabeth who is, in fact, a woman." ~Will Turner and Jack Sparrow, POTC fROdO LIVeS!!!!

07-27-2003, 11:44 AM	#27
Ornelírë Mistë Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	When I first came across the name, I pronounced it like: "toh-ki-en", with not much of an L sound in there. Though I still think that sounds better, I use tol-keen now. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

07-29-2003, 05:38 AM	#28
GrayMouser Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ilha Formosa Posts: 2,068	I still can't say "Souron" instead of "Sawron". __________________ Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep. Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man; But will they come when you do call for them? "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."- Winston Churchill

07-29-2003, 05:49 AM	#29
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	I say Toll-kun. As in, a toll atr a bridge, and then something that rhymes with gun. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

07-05-2003, 03:19 PM	#24
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	We pronounce his name... Velicë Ingolmo Eldaron

07-24-2003, 11:07 PM	#26
cee2lee2 Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 2nd star to the left..... Posts: 566	I've always heard it as Tol-keen, so that's how I've pronounced it.

08-02-2003, 04:41 PM	#30
Elbereth Gilthoniel Enting Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: israel Posts: 80	don't know if anyone remembers me, haven't been for a while. but pople where nice and even sayd happy birthday to me. I have no idea what's the diffrence between Tolkin to tolkeen to anything else that have been written, I think I could hear the diffrence. but even if I can I don't know to spel it, so I don't know which of them I'm saying. But I have no problem saying Sauron of legolas of any other name. Maby hebrew accent good for the names, but it'll probebly just sound wierd to anyone who doesn't know it. __________________ O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! We still remember, we who dwell In this far land beneath the trees, thy starlight on the Western Seas.

08-21-2003, 08:43 AM	#31
Durin1 Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 221	Definitely pronounce it the British way! Americans are Americans and they will have their own peculiarities concerning pronunciation of words (meant as no offence!), but Tolkien was British and the name itself has a long history so it should be pronounced the way the Tolkien family would have. p.s (only slightly relevant) I'm from Birmingham, England, which just happens to be where Tolkien was brought up and where his family was from. It's probably well known but Tolkien got a lot of inspiration for names from the regional dialect - "Gamgee" for instance __________________ Durin the Sleepless!

08-29-2003, 09:26 PM	#32
TopazJedi Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Imladris Posts: 105	What does Gamgee mean? __________________ Your cursor is magically drawn to my smiley

08-31-2003, 02:36 PM	#33
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I forget (I don't think it has a meaning, but is an actual English name or play on an English name), but it was discussed in a couple of threads. If you do a search, you're sure to find one. Ooh, an opportunity to use my new knowlege from reading Letters! Tolkien wished he had given a different last name, one that made more sense in terms of geography (? I think) -- that his mental equivalent to the Gamgees was a different type of English counrtyside type. But his son Christopher (in the army at that time) would not let him change it because he liked Gamgee (so do I!). I am currently listening to the American radio play of LotR (I wanted the BBC version, but didn't know this was not it), and it's driving me batty because they keep placing the accent of names on the second syllable instead of the first, and I say the names with the accent on the first syllable (which I think is correct). For instance, they pronounce SARuman as sarUman. And LEGolas as legOlas. They are doing that with other names, too.

09-01-2003, 10:41 PM	#34
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I listened to the same play, azalea. What annoyed me was that they pronounced "Sauron" as "Sore-ron" All you have to do is have a peep in the appendices to check how it's pronounced. And Frodo with an American accent does not sound right to me. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

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