Smeagol - Page 2

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 02-04-2003, 08:47 AM

I thought that Smeagol would have looked different but he sounds the same as I thought.

***azalea*** · 02-04-2003, 03:23 PM

As this is really tending to be about Gollum in the movie, I'm moving it to the movies forum.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-04-2003, 04:58 PM

I agree with Elf Girl; He was corrupt long before the Ring-making ever began, and the chief lieutenant of Morgoth, I believe.

straight_face · 02-04-2003, 08:46 PM

You've got to remember all that has happened to Gollum to make him the way that he is. He can't help being an evil imp, can he?

Black Breathalizer · 02-04-2003, 08:47 PM

I never ever felt pity for Gollum in the books -- and I've read the books countless times over the years.

But when I actually saw Gollum for the first time in the movie theatre, I really did view the character in a whole new light.

After seeing the movie on opening night, I said to my daughter, "you know, I'm just like Frodo---now that I've seen him, I do pity him."

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-04-2003, 09:16 PM

straight_face; I wouldn't call Gollum evil; pitiful, wretched, and wicked, yes, but not evil.

**Nurvingiel** · 02-05-2003, 12:12 AM

I loved and hated book Gollum, and movie Gollum moved me just as much. This says a lot, since I felt Gollum was a very powerful character.

I loved Gollum when I pitied him and wanted Smeagol to come out on top.

Hated him when he pissed off Sam, my favourite character!

Go Sam!

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 02-08-2003, 02:01 PM

I felt so sorry of Smeagol because Golllum was always telling him want he should do and Gollum is not evil he is just like that because of the way he has lived his live.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 02-25-2003, 01:35 PM

Kiwi is saying that I'm Gollum and that she is Smeagol. She is so wrong!!!!!!!!!!!

Dúnedain · 02-27-2003, 09:04 PM

Not sure if anyone noticed, but I was watching my copy of TTT before, yes I have a copy

, and I paid close attention to the Gollum/Smeagol scenes. If you notice, the only times you see his eyes bright blue, it is when he is Smeagol. When he is Gollum, the brightness goes away in his eyes and you can barely tell they are blue. I just thought it was awesome the way they did that, even though it is a small little feature, it shows Smeagol breaking through the evil Gollum!

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 03-02-2003, 03:45 PM

Yea it is amazing how they make Gollum and do all of his movements and stuff like that.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-02-2003, 03:50 PM

But they still forgot the green glow.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 03-02-2003, 03:52 PM

But they still did a good job on Smeagol.

straight_face · 03-09-2003, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by L@ur@y Elven Warrior
Gollum is strange in the book but even stranger in the movie.

You've been to the Barrow-Downs, haven't you? Great website.

L@ur@y Elven Warrior · 03-09-2003, 12:48 PM

Yes I have been on Barrow-Downs it's an ok website.

gimli7410 · 03-09-2003, 01:15 PM

barrow downs is a pretty good site. how long do their themes last there?

***azalea*** · 03-09-2003, 04:43 PM

Please stay on topic. PMs are great for that kind of thing.

Indril Anarion · 03-09-2003, 07:32 PM

I love the way that the Gollum/Smeagol split personality thing was played out. I love Smeagol, he's so cute and you pity him. Gollum on the other hand, doesn't evoke one ounce of sympathy out of me.

Fanëar · 03-14-2003, 09:04 PM

i loved smeagol and gollum I felt so sorry for him in FotR and I thought he was sooooo cute in TTT too bad he has to go andbite of frodos finger and somehow make sam go blind(?)

Dúnedain · 03-14-2003, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fanëar
i loved smeagol and gollum I felt so sorry for him in FotR and I thought he was sooooo cute in TTT too bad he has to go andbite of frodos finger and somehow make sam go blind(?)

huh? he doesn't make Sam go blind....

02-04-2003, 08:47 AM	#21
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	I thought that Smeagol would have looked different but he sounds the same as I thought. __________________ Ni melme legolas

02-04-2003, 04:58 PM	#23
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I agree with Elf Girl; He was corrupt long before the Ring-making ever began, and the chief lieutenant of Morgoth, I believe. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-04-2003, 08:46 PM	#24
straight_face Enting Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angband Posts: 91	Gollum/Smeagol You've got to remember all that has happened to Gollum to make him the way that he is. He can't help being an evil imp, can he? __________________ 'There was no need. He halted just by us and looked down at us. "Gandalf!" I said at last, but my voice was only a whisper. Did he say: "Hullo, Pippin! This is a pleasant surprise!" No, indeed! He said: "Get up, you tom-fool of a Took! Where, in the name of wonder, in all this ruin is Treebeard? I want him. Quick!"' 'What are we going to do now then?' asked Pippin, undaunted by the wizard's bristling brows. "Knock on the door with your head, Peregrin Took,' said Gandalf. 'But if that does not shatter them, and I am allowed a little peace from foolish questions, I will seek for the opening words.' 'Fool of a Took!' he growled. 'This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!'

02-04-2003, 09:16 PM	#26
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	straight_face; I wouldn't call Gollum evil; pitiful, wretched, and wicked, yes, but not evil. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-08-2003, 02:01 PM	#28
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	I felt so sorry of Smeagol because Golllum was always telling him want he should do and Gollum is not evil he is just like that because of the way he has lived his live. __________________ Ni melme legolas

02-04-2003, 03:23 PM	#22
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	As this is really tending to be about Gollum in the movie, I'm moving it to the movies forum.

02-04-2003, 08:47 PM	#25
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	I never ever felt pity for Gollum in the books -- and I've read the books countless times over the years. But when I actually saw Gollum for the first time in the movie theatre, I really did view the character in a whole new light. After seeing the movie on opening night, I said to my daughter, "you know, I'm just like Frodo---now that I've seen him, I do pity him."

02-25-2003, 01:35 PM	#29
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	Kiwi is saying that I'm Gollum and that she is Smeagol. She is so wrong!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Ni melme legolas

02-27-2003, 09:04 PM	#30
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	Not sure if anyone noticed, but I was watching my copy of TTT before, yes I have a copy , and I paid close attention to the Gollum/Smeagol scenes. If you notice, the only times you see his eyes bright blue, it is when he is Smeagol. When he is Gollum, the brightness goes away in his eyes and you can barely tell they are blue. I just thought it was awesome the way they did that, even though it is a small little feature, it shows Smeagol breaking through the evil Gollum! __________________ 'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen

03-02-2003, 03:45 PM	#31
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	Yea it is amazing how they make Gollum and do all of his movements and stuff like that. __________________ Ni melme legolas

03-02-2003, 03:50 PM	#32
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	But they still forgot the green glow. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-02-2003, 03:52 PM	#33
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	But they still did a good job on Smeagol. __________________ Ni melme legolas

03-09-2003, 12:48 PM	#35
L@ur@y Elven Warrior Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Halkirk Posts: 208	Yes I have been on Barrow-Downs it's an ok website. __________________ Ni melme legolas

03-09-2003, 01:15 PM	#36
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	barrow downs is a pretty good site. how long do their themes last there? __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

03-09-2003, 04:43 PM	#37
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Please stay on topic. PMs are great for that kind of thing.

03-09-2003, 07:32 PM	#38
Indril Anarion Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: My heart is forever in Mirkwood Posts: 429	I love the way that the Gollum/Smeagol split personality thing was played out. I love Smeagol, he's so cute and you pity him. Gollum on the other hand, doesn't evoke one ounce of sympathy out of me. __________________ I'm a Jesus Freak and proud of it... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to us." -Gandalf, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody tosses a Dwarf." - Gimli, FOTR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Save Ferris!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My true Elven name is Idril Anarion, but I misspelled in the username, and now I can't fix it... Oh, well...now you know... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't be afraid of death....Be afraid of the unlived life- Tuck Everlasting

03-14-2003, 09:04 PM	#39
Fanëar Hobbit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SC Posts: 43	i loved smeagol and gollum I felt so sorry for him in FotR and I thought he was sooooo cute in TTT too bad he has to go andbite of frodos finger and somehow make sam go blind(?) __________________ ~Fanëar~ "Aragorn, Le naa belegohtar" "Legolas, Le naa curucuar" ~Omentuva~

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