Next Big Question... - Page 2

***azalea*** · 01-03-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Cirdan

Will we see ghan-buri-ghan? the paths of the dead? Will sam and frodo have to pass as orcs? Will sam carry frodo up orodruin?

OH, I hope, I hope!!

eowyngirl14 · 01-03-2003, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by azalea
OH, I hope, I hope!!

me too!!! me too!!! me too!!!

BeardofPants · 01-04-2003, 12:24 AM

Ditto.

Cirdan · 01-04-2003, 12:49 AM

yeah. yeah! me too! hehe hehe

Is it too late to add the scouring of the shire?

and the elven ships?

and the ghost army?

and the song in my sig?

and Sauron embodied(but not the gold lamae) looking out barad-dur and seeing the ring just before it's gone and looking panic-stricken and...

Millane · 01-04-2003, 03:11 AM

stuff Ghan buri Ghan i want to see Elladan and Elrohir and if luck prevails maybe just maybe they might bring Anduril...

cassiopeia · 01-04-2003, 04:02 AM

My theory is that PJ likes to have a big action/fight scene very early on in the movies - like the last alliance in the FOTR and Gandalf vs. the Balrog in TTT. So I think there will be a action scene early on in the ROTK. Maybe Frodo's encounter with Shelob or the witchking. I can swallow all the changes so far, but if PJ messes up

Sam rescuing Frodo from Cirith Ungol and Frodo's departure from the grey havens, I am going to get very angry.

Celebréiel · 01-04-2003, 04:07 AM

I totally agree cassiopeia, I loved Sam going in to rescue Frodo! All the orcs thinking its a mighty elven warrior and sam getting a kick out of that.

Ive somewhat lost faith in PJ for the two towers, but......well, ill be optimistic and hope he can do RoTK justice.
~Celebréiel

Menelvagor · 01-04-2003, 10:09 PM

Does anyone else foresee a problem with Saruman? From where they left off in TTT they still have to kill (break his staff, but it's much more likely since they cut the Scouring that they'll just kill him) Saruman at the begining of RotK. To me that seems a bit abrupt, it would have fit much better at the end of TTT (with plenty of drama so that it wouldn't seem anticlimatic

) and then they could've just concluded Saruman's story nicely. Now it seems as though they will have to push his punishment to later in the movie (maybe it's just my perception, but he's been such a major villan so far, I can't see them just killing him offhand in the first 10 minutes) will Gandalf stay to deal with him while the others leave? Will he be left to his own devices until Grima convieniently kills him? Am I over analyzing this way too much?

eowyngirl14 · 01-04-2003, 10:14 PM

Nope, your not... I agree completly!

Menelvagor · 01-04-2003, 10:27 PM

I guess we'll just have to wait and see how PJ does it.

eowyngirl14 · 01-04-2003, 10:30 PM

I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm okay! I swear!

**Nurvingiel** · 01-04-2003, 11:55 PM

Saruman's death is going to get screwed up without the Scouring no matter what. I just hope PJ's writers can do a half-decent job of killing off such a noble villain.

I guess they won't go off on any 'tangeants'. TTT happens to be my favourite Tolkien book.

Renille · 01-05-2003, 03:59 PM

I was wondering if we've actually already seen the wild men...remember in the TTT movie, when Saruman was talking to Sauron, and they showed a clip of him sending out all those men (not orcs) to destroy the Rohirrim? Later, someone, Eowyn, I think, called them wild men. But were they WILD MEN or just wild men? I don't know. But I hope they're at least in ROTK. That would be wonderful!

But I'm positive Saruman's death is going to be twisted...at least, if the spiked wheel thing is true.

And I still hate spiders. Not looking forward to Shelob very much at all.

legolasluvr2931 · 01-05-2003, 04:05 PM

Grrr!
I wish that they had put the spider in the second one. Thatis where they will probably start. pooo! I was hoping for it. I DONT like spiders but i wanted to see how the did it. i havent found any spoilers yet that have pictures of the spider that they did for it.

**Nurvingiel** · 01-05-2003, 07:21 PM

I believe those people were from Dunland. The movie doesn't go into a lot of detail, but if they were Dunlanders, it would coincide fairly happily with the book.

Dúnedain · 01-05-2003, 07:37 PM

The thing I am worried about is with them ending so soon in TTT and cutting off so much, it seems as though RotK is going to be so wickedly compressed. I just don't see how they are going to put it all into 3 hours.

The 2 things I want to see the most are the Paths of the Dead and the arrival of the ships, I really want to see Anduril and Imrahil the Prince of Dol Amroth, as well as Elladan & Elrohir.

ok ok I know that was more than 2 things but they are really bunched together anyway

eowyngirl14 · 01-05-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by legolasluvr2931
Grrr!
I wish that they had put the spider in the second one. Thatis where they will probably start. pooo! I was hoping for it. I DONT like spiders but i wanted to see how the did it. i havent found any spoilers yet that have pictures of the spider that they did for it.

I wanted Shelob too! My friend thinks she saw a picture of Shelob on theonering.net, but I haven't seen it yet, so she may just be saying that to watch me get all exited, and then really dissapionted, and the WRING HER SORRY LITTLE NECK! Sorry, I'm okay now...

***gdl96*** · 01-06-2003, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by Dúnadain
The thing I am worried about is with them ending so soon in TTT and cutting off so much, it seems as though RotK is going to be so wickedly compressed. I just don't see how they are going to put it all into 3 hours.

Keep in mind Return of the King is by far the shortest of the three books. In the end, I think it will all even out without rushing too much.

Cirdan · 01-06-2003, 12:14 AM

Will heads fly from the orc catapults? I think PJ would insist on it.

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-06-2003, 02:03 AM

If you search under "Return of the King" on IMDB you'll find an actor listed for Ghan-buri-ghan, so he's in it and has lines. There isn't anybody listed for Imrahil, so methinks he's gone the way of Bombadil, Glorfindel and Erkenbrand. Perhaps Faramir won't get himself nearly killed and he'll take on Imrahil's role as adjunct leader of Minas Tirith, which is what he would have been had he not gotten wounded so badly.

01-04-2003, 12:24 AM	#23
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Ditto. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

01-04-2003, 12:49 AM	#24
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	yeah. yeah! me too! hehe hehe Is it too late to add the scouring of the shire? and the elven ships? and the ghost army? and the song in my sig? and Sauron embodied(but not the gold lamae) looking out barad-dur and seeing the ring just before it's gone and looking panic-stricken and... __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

01-04-2003, 03:11 AM	#25
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	stuff Ghan buri Ghan i want to see Elladan and Elrohir and if luck prevails maybe just maybe they might bring Anduril... __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

01-04-2003, 04:07 AM	#27
Celebréiel Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A house! Posts: 376	I totally agree cassiopeia, I loved Sam going in to rescue Frodo! All the orcs thinking its a mighty elven warrior and sam getting a kick out of that. Ive somewhat lost faith in PJ for the two towers, but......well, ill be optimistic and hope he can do RoTK justice. ~Celebréiel __________________ Peace Yeah, Your an individual...just like everyone else. http://cartalien.deviantart.com/ - Arty goodness

01-04-2003, 10:14 PM	#29
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	Nope, your not... I agree completly! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-04-2003, 10:09 PM	#28
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	Does anyone else foresee a problem with Saruman? From where they left off in TTT they still have to kill (break his staff, but it's much more likely since they cut the Scouring that they'll just kill him) Saruman at the begining of RotK. To me that seems a bit abrupt, it would have fit much better at the end of TTT (with plenty of drama so that it wouldn't seem anticlimatic ) and then they could've just concluded Saruman's story nicely. Now it seems as though they will have to push his punishment to later in the movie (maybe it's just my perception, but he's been such a major villan so far, I can't see them just killing him offhand in the first 10 minutes) will Gandalf stay to deal with him while the others leave? Will he be left to his own devices until Grima convieniently kills him? Am I over analyzing this way too much?

01-04-2003, 10:27 PM	#30
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I guess we'll just have to wait and see how PJ does it.

01-04-2003, 10:30 PM	#31
eowyngirl14 i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,353	I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm okay! I swear! __________________ 'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn 'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” - Benjamin Franklin arms are made for hugging avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan

01-05-2003, 03:59 PM	#33
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	I was wondering if we've actually already seen the wild men...remember in the TTT movie, when Saruman was talking to Sauron, and they showed a clip of him sending out all those men (not orcs) to destroy the Rohirrim? Later, someone, Eowyn, I think, called them wild men. But were they WILD MEN or just wild men? I don't know. But I hope they're at least in ROTK. That would be wonderful! But I'm positive Saruman's death is going to be twisted...at least, if the spiked wheel thing is true. And I still hate spiders. Not looking forward to Shelob very much at all. __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

01-05-2003, 04:05 PM	#34
legolasluvr2931 Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 30	Grrr! I wish that they had put the spider in the second one. Thatis where they will probably start. pooo! I was hoping for it. I DONT like spiders but i wanted to see how the did it. i havent found any spoilers yet that have pictures of the spider that they did for it.

01-05-2003, 07:37 PM	#36
Dúnedain High King of Númenórë Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Númenórë <--United States of America Posts: 1,947	The thing I am worried about is with them ending so soon in TTT and cutting off so much, it seems as though RotK is going to be so wickedly compressed. I just don't see how they are going to put it all into 3 hours. The 2 things I want to see the most are the Paths of the Dead and the arrival of the ships, I really want to see Anduril and Imrahil the Prince of Dol Amroth, as well as Elladan & Elrohir. ok ok I know that was more than 2 things but they are really bunched together anyway

01-06-2003, 12:14 AM	#39
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	Will heads fly from the orc catapults? I think PJ would insist on it. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

01-06-2003, 02:03 AM	#40
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	Re: the Wild Men If you search under "Return of the King" on IMDB you'll find an actor listed for Ghan-buri-ghan, so he's in it and has lines. There isn't anybody listed for Imrahil, so methinks he's gone the way of Bombadil, Glorfindel and Erkenbrand. Perhaps Faramir won't get himself nearly killed and he'll take on Imrahil's role as adjunct leader of Minas Tirith, which is what he would have been had he not gotten wounded so badly. __________________ Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye.

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