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Old 06-14-2001, 05:08 AM   #21
Lord Xanthyz
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Re: Inoldonil, I have a question for you...

I spend a little time getting prepared to move, then I come back and I got my answer=)

Now I have just one more question...
Is there a better "dictionary" for the Elven langauges (Sindarin, Quenya, any others) than the one in the back of Silmarillion?
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Old 06-14-2001, 07:22 PM   #22
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Re: Inoldonil, I have a question for you...

Oh yeah. All online stuff. Before I give you anything though, do not buy The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth by Ruth S. Noel. Bad guide.

I really like Helge Fauskanger's
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Old 06-17-2001, 01:07 PM   #23
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Re: Inoldonil, I have a question for you...

I never knew you could get books about the Tolkien language. Reminds me of the guy I saw on TV who made up a whole language for the movie Atlantis.
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Old 06-21-2001, 11:05 PM   #24
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Re: Inoldonil, I have a question for you...

Quote:
So 'flame' in Sindarin was lach?
Actually, Inoldonil, lhach is leaping flame according to the back of the Silmarillion if my memory serves me correctly...

Just HAD to make sure you realized that "h" was in there
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Old 06-22-2001, 12:22 PM   #25
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re: "flame"

According to David Salo (the best Sindarist I know of and was consulted for the movie) the Silmarillion entry "lhach" may be an error ... attested Sindarin example "Lachend" shows no initial lh- in any event, and would not be a case showing lenition.
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Old 06-22-2001, 03:26 PM   #26
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Re: Inoldonil, I have a question for you...

You said that Ingoldo was the mother name of Finarfin. I was under the impression that it was the mother name of Finrod. Could be wrong, but I was sure I saw that somewhere.
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Old 06-22-2001, 10:35 PM   #27
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"lhach" mispelled....

Hmmm....I was to come back with evidence against what you said about lhach being mispelled, but when I went to find another word that dropped a letter like that, I couldn't find one.:P

So now in my mind it is a POSSIBILITY is was mispelled
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Old 06-26-2001, 02:09 PM   #28
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Re: "Ingoldo"

Findarato, the fuller text can be found in "The Shibboleth of Fëanor" note 30, but here's a part re. "Ingoldo":

"... It was the mother-name of Arafinwë [Finarfin], and like the name Arakáno 'High chieftain' that Indis gave to Nolofinwë [Fingolfin] was held to be 'prophetic'. Eärwen gave this name [Ingoldo] to her eldest child Artafindë (Finrod), and by it he was usually called by his brothers and sister ..."

Anyway, as I say the fuller explanation is in PoMe. Cheers~
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Old 06-26-2001, 09:48 PM   #29
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Re: "Ingoldo"

Don't think either, Findarato, that because of this quote your name ought to be Artafindë, that was just the purer Quenya version, 'Findarato' is Telerin in form, Finrod's mother's people.
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