What do you most admire about Hobbitts ? - Page 2

Wayfarer · 07-17-2002, 06:19 PM

They get six meals a day.

I'm lucky to squeeze in two.

The Ringbearer · 07-19-2002, 06:02 AM

Well, I suppose BoP COULD be right.

I think I read somewhere that their years were longer then ours; like somewhere near 1000 days.....

I don't remember the number except that it was alot more than the modern number.

And no, BoP, I am NOT saying I trust you!

Wayfarer · 07-19-2002, 03:25 PM

An elven yen is close to a 100 years.

But the hobbits based thier calander on a loa- the sun round, which is the same as our year.

However, bilbo was the oldes hobbit ever at 130, so I doubt 150 is the average. I seem to recall 90-100 being generally considered a god time to die.

Radagast The Brown · 07-20-2002, 05:17 AM

if Wayfarer right, hobbits don't live a lot more then men. (as I said before)

Wayfarer · 07-20-2002, 05:36 PM

I'm right.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-20-2002, 06:51 PM

Of course. Hobbits were Men, so naturally they died in the same time span. Bilbo was the exception, because the Ring gave him a greater life span. Remember though that the life span of men was greater after they came to Beleriand, and Aragorn lived to be something like 210 years old. Not sure.

The Ringbearer · 07-21-2002, 02:22 AM

What do you mean they were Men?!?

That would mean Frodo and Strider were BOTH Men...

Could you explain that please?

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-21-2002, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by The Ringbearer
What do you mean they were Men?!? That would mean Frodo and Strider were BOTH Men...
Could you explain that please?

That is correct. Frodo and Strider were both Men, just not of the same branch or breed. Hobbits were an off shoot of Men. I think Michael Martinez said it best this way: All daisys are flowers, but not all flowers are daisys. Make sense? So, all Hobbits are Men, but not all men are Hobbits.

BeardofPants · 07-21-2002, 07:00 PM

Yeah, they're a sub-species. Which brings up an interesting question: are there any instances of hobbits and men interbreeding? (I haven't made my way into HoME yet.)

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-21-2002, 10:11 PM

None that I know of. I have most of the HoMe, but I have not covered everything.

Starlite · 07-21-2002, 11:23 PM

I admire the Hobbits sense of family. They all know they're family history and who's related to who. They're very loyal to family as well. Which kind of reminds me of my own family.

Blackheart · 07-22-2002, 11:57 AM

I like the way they are self basting when you roast them.

Must be all that butter under their waistcoats.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-22-2002, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
Yeah, they're a sub-species. Which brings up an interesting question: are there any instances of hobbits and men interbreeding? (I haven't made my way into HoME yet.)

I just remembered that little description Tolkien wrote about Hobbits, and how he said they tend to shy away from the Big Folk as they call us. So I doubt there was any interbeeding.

BeardofPants · 07-22-2002, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
I just remembered that little description Tolkien wrote about Hobbits, and how he said they tend to shy away from the Big Folk as they call us. So I doubt there was any interbeeding.

Yeah, I remember that: from the LOTR "concering hobbits" wasn't it? I'm guessing it was possible though, since they were descended from men.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-22-2002, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants

Yeah, I remember that: from the LOTR "concering hobbits" wasn't it? I'm guessing it was possible though, since they were descended from men.

Absolutely possible I would think, but I recall no account of it in the books. I would think considering their makeups, most all the people of Middle-earth were capable of interbreeding.

cassiopeia · 07-22-2002, 09:53 PM

We know that Men and Elves can interbreed, and since Hobbits are related to Men, then elves and Hobbits could interbreed. That would be an interesting combination.

I don't know about dwarves, since they were created separately.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 07-22-2002, 10:15 PM

If a male Dwarf interbreeded with a female Elf, and they had a female child, would the child have a beard?

BeardofPants · 07-22-2002, 10:19 PM

Oh dear eru...

***Khamûl*** · 07-22-2002, 10:33 PM

Now that's a disturbing thought...

Erawyn · 07-24-2002, 11:27 PM

well did female dwarves have beards??

but back to the main topic, the scouring of the shire basically sums up what i admire most about hobbits. They are usually easygoing and peaceful but when someone takes away their 6 meals a day and makes life uncomfortable they aren't afraid to fight!

07-17-2002, 06:19 PM	#21
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	They get six meals a day. I'm lucky to squeeze in two. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

07-19-2002, 06:02 AM	#22
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	Well, I suppose BoP COULD be right. I think I read somewhere that their years were longer then ours; like somewhere near 1000 days..... I don't remember the number except that it was alot more than the modern number. And no, BoP, I am NOT saying I trust you! __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

07-19-2002, 03:25 PM	#23
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	An elven yen is close to a 100 years. But the hobbits based thier calander on a loa- the sun round, which is the same as our year. However, bilbo was the oldes hobbit ever at 130, so I doubt 150 is the average. I seem to recall 90-100 being generally considered a god time to die. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

07-20-2002, 05:17 AM	#24
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	if Wayfarer right, hobbits don't live a lot more then men. (as I said before) __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

07-20-2002, 05:36 PM	#25
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I'm right. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

07-20-2002, 06:51 PM	#26
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Of course. Hobbits were Men, so naturally they died in the same time span. Bilbo was the exception, because the Ring gave him a greater life span. Remember though that the life span of men was greater after they came to Beleriand, and Aragorn lived to be something like 210 years old. Not sure.

07-21-2002, 02:22 AM	#27
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	What do you mean they were Men?!? That would mean Frodo and Strider were BOTH Men... Could you explain that please? __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

07-21-2002, 07:00 PM	#29
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yeah, they're a sub-species. Which brings up an interesting question: are there any instances of hobbits and men interbreeding? (I haven't made my way into HoME yet.) __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-21-2002, 10:11 PM	#30
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	None that I know of. I have most of the HoMe, but I have not covered everything.

07-21-2002, 11:23 PM	#31
Starlite Sapling Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Land of Lullabyes Posts: 7	I admire the Hobbits sense of family. They all know they're family history and who's related to who. They're very loyal to family as well. Which kind of reminds me of my own family. __________________ Snoogins! "If you get confused, listen to the music play."--Grateful Dead

07-22-2002, 11:57 AM	#32
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	I like the way they are self basting when you roast them. Must be all that butter under their waistcoats. __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ...

07-22-2002, 09:53 PM	#36
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	We know that Men and Elves can interbreed, and since Hobbits are related to Men, then elves and Hobbits could interbreed. That would be an interesting combination. I don't know about dwarves, since they were created separately. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

07-22-2002, 10:15 PM	#37
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	If a male Dwarf interbreeded with a female Elf, and they had a female child, would the child have a beard?

07-22-2002, 10:19 PM	#38
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Oh dear eru... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

07-22-2002, 10:33 PM	#39
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	Now that's a disturbing thought... __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

07-24-2002, 11:27 PM	#40
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	well did female dwarves have beards?? but back to the main topic, the scouring of the shire basically sums up what i admire most about hobbits. They are usually easygoing and peaceful but when someone takes away their 6 meals a day and makes life uncomfortable they aren't afraid to fight! __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann