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joe · 08-14-2002, 12:27 AM

I say - join the film and LOVE the book!! The book of JRR must be better than the film, that could not tell the HOLE story and could not describe the FULL characters of the fellowship the ring. Forgive him!!!

Giladrial · 08-14-2002, 08:38 PM

Ok I remeber as a Kid watching The Hobbit cartoon evin Playing The tsr games I never got to reading jrr tolkings Novels I PROMICE I WILL I HAVE THEM SAVED AT The Libray Ok I got The dvd I am Planning On getting The collectors edition. I do Beleieve That a world Like This dose or at least could exsist. call me a dreamer I found My self cheering for frodo and His companions and Then yelling at The end of The MOVIE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED! welol here I am If One of you wounderful Knolageable people who have read The books can Help Me I would be More Then greatful

Lizra · 08-14-2002, 10:32 PM

Hi Giladrial, Really. it would be too much hassle to tell you what happens to Frodo, You'll just have to take some time and read the books! Trust me, you'll be glad you did.

Sicirus · 08-14-2002, 10:38 PM

I agree CBG. The books are quite more important than the movie.
(I finally get how to work that placement thing.)

Lady Legolas · 08-15-2002, 07:14 PM

I have a friend who keeps asking me that! It's just not the same if someone tells you what happens. You have to read the books.

It's way better that way!

¤Lady Legolas¤

LegolasSoulMate · 08-17-2002, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe
I say - join the film and LOVE the book!! The book of JRR must be better than the film, that could not tell the HOLE story and could not describe the FULL characters of the fellowship the ring. Forgive him!!!

I agree...

Rhûnboy · 09-15-2002, 03:17 AM

Grrr... I just typed a long, complicated reply, and it didn't make it through, so now I get to type it all over again. Anyway, I must seem like Mr. Disagreeable, mumbling dissent all over the place (and maybe this is why nobody's replied to any of my posts here...)

Still, I think I'm going to be the voice of dissent here as well.

In principle, I agree with what you're saying. Off topic discussion is a problem, first, because it wastes time (you spend time reading something you aren't looking for) and second, because it wastes space (a lot is unnecessarily repeated).

For these reasons, posts that are explicitly off-topic should be closed or deleted.

However, I find that with regards to the book vs. movie, there has to be some flexibility. Because the movie is adapted from the book, and because they share essentially the same plot, characters, and much dialogue and exposition, many things about the movie are definitely "on topic" about the book, and vice versa. You cannot expect these two subjects to always be mutually exclusive.

I might sound like I'm being picky, but this has bothered me in several threads I've read tonight. The most extreme case was a thread dealing with "inspiring quotes" from the book and movie. The administration first chastized people for leaving quotes from the movie (some which are very similar with lines of dialogue from the book), suggested a parallel thread be opened in the movie forum to deal with movie quotes, and ultimately threatened to close the thread.

I think this is both counterproductive and overreactive.

I say above that wasted space is a problem of off-topic discussion, but think of how much space is wasted by having two seperate threads in two separate forums to deal with one topic, that is, inspiring quotes.
I also say that wasted time is a problem, yet think of how much time is wasted when someone has to go to two different forums to read up on one subject.

I think a much more reasonable expectation is to say that any thread in the Books forum must say something relevant to the books, regardless of whether the movie is involved or not. This will save time, save space, and it will be a lot less confusing to someone who wants to post an ambiguous subject relevant to both the movie and book.

Dissentingly yours,

Connor (Rhûnboy)

PS. Edited, because my HTML code was bunk! :P

Hannah · 10-28-2002, 05:30 AM

I agree with with all great literature and films made about them there a great differences and indeed large bits left out in the films which can change the overall opinion of ther charactyer for someone who hasn't read the boo

Aeryn · 11-10-2002, 01:01 AM

Yeah! Okay!

Lollypopgurl · 11-22-2002, 10:44 PM

Yeah, I agree with you. Peter Jackson did a great job making the movie, but it's still no book, and will never be.

**Nurvingiel** · 11-30-2002, 03:47 PM

The book is an endless well of discussion topics, and can easily be discussed independant of the movie.

The movie is adapted from the book, so it's inevitable that in the discussion of the movie, it will be compared to the book, or quotes from the book will be added etc.

Because of this, I think any thread that mentions the movie should be in the movie forum.

OrlandoFan234 · 12-08-2002, 07:09 PM

Aragorn_iz_cool,
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Quote:

I agree. The thing that annoys me most is that some people make Legoles their fave, just becouse he looks good in the movie.

__________________________________________________ __
Why do you say that? I mean Legoles is good in the book also. (As well as in the Movie!!!) Just wondering I thought it was interesting that you and some others would say th at!
~OrlandoFan234~

**Nurvingiel** · 12-08-2002, 08:08 PM

I'm with you guys... but I know it's easy to go massively off-topic! I've sure done that a few times... but we just have to try to keep 'em seperate!

Eothain · 01-06-2003, 04:28 PM

I agree.

Herooftheworld · 01-19-2003, 09:18 PM

can some of you show me how this place works?

***azalea*** · 01-19-2003, 10:19 PM

I would suggest introducing yourself in the newbie thread in the General Messages forum, and then just explore the board a little. After you've read some of the threads, you'll get the hang of it. Also, refer to the Frequently Asked Questions. There's a lot of helpful info there.

congressmn · 01-23-2003, 11:11 AM

ya, one more peice of advise. I have been here only for a while my self.
But yes, I have had enough of my threads closed down. SO DONT POST NE RUBBUSH. Azalea and the others will shut them down immediately.
If u want proof.
goto LORD OF THE RINGS: BOOK and look for Iluventmoot, or azalea-not so good----
or goto Middle Earth and look for : SEXy Shelob, all closed down.

So i hope u get the message.

***Jonathan*** · 01-24-2003, 08:00 AM

Haha, most of congressmn's threads have been closed down! I find that quite amusing

congressmn · 01-24-2003, 11:41 AM

i see jonathan, u r finding it too funny that my threads have been closed down eh.

***Jonathan*** · 01-24-2003, 04:00 PM

Well, I guess that when you name your threads to funny names like "Sexy Shelob", "azela, not so good moderator", and "Iluventmoot" and keep posting the threads in the wrong places, then you have to count on that the threads are being closed

08-14-2002, 08:38 PM	#22
Giladrial Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San diego Posts: 1	WHAT HAPPENED TO FRODO!!!!! Ok I remeber as a Kid watching The Hobbit cartoon evin Playing The tsr games I never got to reading jrr tolkings Novels I PROMICE I WILL I HAVE THEM SAVED AT The Libray Ok I got The dvd I am Planning On getting The collectors edition. I do Beleieve That a world Like This dose or at least could exsist. call me a dreamer I found My self cheering for frodo and His companions and Then yelling at The end of The MOVIE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED! welol here I am If One of you wounderful Knolageable people who have read The books can Help Me I would be More Then greatful

08-14-2002, 10:38 PM	#24
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	I agree CBG. The books are quite more important than the movie. (I finally get how to work that placement thing.) __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

08-15-2002, 07:14 PM	#25
Lady Legolas Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 14	I have a friend who keeps asking me that! It's just not the same if someone tells you what happens. You have to read the books. It's way better that way! ¤Lady Legolas¤ __________________ Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

09-15-2002, 03:17 AM	#27
Rhûnboy Sapling Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Flint, Michigan, or Chicago, Illinois, depending on when you ask... Posts: 9	Hmmm... Grrr... I just typed a long, complicated reply, and it didn't make it through, so now I get to type it all over again. Anyway, I must seem like Mr. Disagreeable, mumbling dissent all over the place (and maybe this is why nobody's replied to any of my posts here...) Still, I think I'm going to be the voice of dissent here as well. In principle, I agree with what you're saying. Off topic discussion is a problem, first, because it wastes time (you spend time reading something you aren't looking for) and second, because it wastes space (a lot is unnecessarily repeated). For these reasons, posts that are explicitly off-topic should be closed or deleted. However, I find that with regards to the book vs. movie, there has to be some flexibility. Because the movie is adapted from the book, and because they share essentially the same plot, characters, and much dialogue and exposition, many things about the movie are definitely "on topic" about the book, and vice versa. You cannot expect these two subjects to always be mutually exclusive. I might sound like I'm being picky, but this has bothered me in several threads I've read tonight. The most extreme case was a thread dealing with "inspiring quotes" from the book and movie. The administration first chastized people for leaving quotes from the movie (some which are very similar with lines of dialogue from the book), suggested a parallel thread be opened in the movie forum to deal with movie quotes, and ultimately threatened to close the thread. I think this is both counterproductive and overreactive. I say above that wasted space is a problem of off-topic discussion, but think of how much space is wasted by having two seperate threads in two separate forums to deal with one topic, that is, inspiring quotes. I also say that wasted time is a problem, yet think of how much time is wasted when someone has to go to two different forums to read up on one subject. I think a much more reasonable expectation is to say that any thread in the Books forum must say something relevant to the books, regardless of whether the movie is involved or not. This will save time, save space, and it will be a lot less confusing to someone who wants to post an ambiguous subject relevant to both the movie and book. Dissentingly yours, Connor (Rhûnboy) PS. Edited, because my HTML code was bunk! :P Last edited by Rhûnboy : 09-15-2002 at 03:21 AM.

11-10-2002, 01:01 AM	#29
Aeryn Bank'ress of Sith Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a hot-hot place, heh Posts: 913	Yeah! Okay! __________________ my new account name feigndeath. This one is deactivated, I think.

08-14-2002, 12:27 AM	#21
joe Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: germany Posts: 7	I say - join the film and LOVE the book!! The book of JRR must be better than the film, that could not tell the HOLE story and could not describe the FULL characters of the fellowship the ring. Forgive him!!!

08-14-2002, 10:32 PM	#23
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Hi Giladrial, Really. it would be too much hassle to tell you what happens to Frodo, You'll just have to take some time and read the books! Trust me, you'll be glad you did.

10-28-2002, 05:30 AM	#28
Hannah Sapling Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Durham Posts: 3	I agree with with all great literature and films made about them there a great differences and indeed large bits left out in the films which can change the overall opinion of ther charactyer for someone who hasn't read the boo

11-22-2002, 10:44 PM	#30
Lollypopgurl Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 222	Yeah, I agree with you. Peter Jackson did a great job making the movie, but it's still no book, and will never be. __________________ a violinist...

01-06-2003, 04:28 PM	#34
Eothain Enting Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 73	LOTR I agree. __________________ Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing? Where is the hand on the harpsting, and the red fire glowing? Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing? They have past like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. Who shall gather the smoke of the dead wood burning, or behold the flowing years from the Sea returning? Frodo lives

01-19-2003, 09:18 PM	#35
Herooftheworld Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kiel,Wisconsin Posts: 16	What r u talking about? can some of you show me how this place works?

01-19-2003, 10:19 PM	#36
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I would suggest introducing yourself in the newbie thread in the General Messages forum, and then just explore the board a little. After you've read some of the threads, you'll get the hang of it. Also, refer to the Frequently Asked Questions. There's a lot of helpful info there.

01-23-2003, 11:11 AM	#37
congressmn Incharge: neighbourhood security Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on my 499th post Posts: 481	ya, one more peice of advise. I have been here only for a while my self. But yes, I have had enough of my threads closed down. SO DONT POST NE RUBBUSH. Azalea and the others will shut them down immediately. If u want proof. goto LORD OF THE RINGS: BOOK and look for Iluventmoot, or azalea-not so good---- or goto Middle Earth and look for : SEXy Shelob, all closed down. So i hope u get the message. __________________ i am nothing. i am a cold stone, which deceives with the light it reflects, giving illusions of warmth.

01-24-2003, 08:00 AM	#38
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Haha, most of congressmn's threads have been closed down! I find that quite amusing __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

01-24-2003, 11:41 AM	#39
congressmn Incharge: neighbourhood security Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on my 499th post Posts: 481	i see jonathan, u r finding it too funny that my threads have been closed down eh. __________________ i am nothing. i am a cold stone, which deceives with the light it reflects, giving illusions of warmth.

01-24-2003, 04:00 PM	#40
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Well, I guess that when you name your threads to funny names like "Sexy Shelob", "azela, not so good moderator", and "Iluventmoot" and keep posting the threads in the wrong places, then you have to count on that the threads are being closed __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

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