An unreleased Middle Earth inspired movie - Page 2

jerseydevil · 03-24-2002, 02:53 AM

If Tolkien was alive today he might have been insulted by Jackson's intreptation of LOTR and hated the movie.

This is actually the first I've heard of this movie - so I'd have to look into it. I can't really pass judgement on a film until I see more about it.

jerseydevil · 03-24-2002, 03:27 AM

I looked fully at their site and I didn't see any mention of Middle Earth. No place names or anything. They only say that it was inspired by LORT.

After thinking about it - I was concerned. I couldn't picture someone stumping around in Tolkien's history of Middle Earth. I know that a lot of Tolkien's history is based on his notes that Christopher put together and are in some respects very incomplete, but to have someone else change the history of Middle Earth would have been wrong.
I'll still have to reserve my final thoughts on the movie until I see more. I will, however, be keeping my eye out for it.

Evenstar_Elfstone · 08-11-2002, 10:30 PM

WHAT???????????????????????? THEY WERE GOING TO DO A MOVIE ABOUT ARAGORNS LIFE BUT TOLKIEN ENTERPRISE STEPPED IN???????????????? HOW COULD THEY???????? THAT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY RIVALED LOTR!!!!!!!!! I'M SUING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEM F***N SONS OF A B***H! D**N THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! D****T D****T D****T D****T D****T D****T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LuthienTinuviel · 08-11-2002, 11:16 PM

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WHAT???????????????????????? THEY WERE GOING TO DO A MOVIE ABOUT ARAGORNS LIFE BUT TOLKIEN ENTERPRISE STEPPED IN???????????????? HOW COULD THEY???????? THAT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY RIVALED LOTR!!!!!!!!! I'M SUING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEM F***N SONS OF A B***H! D**N THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! D****T D****T D****T D****T D****T D****T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

someone must like a spicy internet sauce.

either that or their just very very .. er... perturbed

i'll have to look into the site, but to tell everyone the truth, the only fansay that i like is LOTR, i really like reading non fantasical sotires and other things. that is why im so fascinated by lotr, it's the only thing like it's kind that well likeable to be. so sadly to say, if it does turn out to be a LOTR or D&D ish film, i will have no desire to see it. one, i fear i will lose interest inLOTR, two, given the above mottled information, there is a 94% chance that i won't like it anyways.

EDIT: I WILL NOT BE SEEING THIS MOVIE. I WILL DIE BEFORE I DO!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-12-2002, 06:01 PM

Anyone know when it's supposed to come out? I've never heard of this movie before, but it certainly looks interesting and I want to see it.

Rána Eressëa · 08-12-2002, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by LuthienTinuviel

EDIT: I WILL NOT BE SEEING THIS MOVIE. I WILL DIE BEFORE I DO!

I really don't see what the big deal is. It's based in Middle-earth, but it isn't a "re-write of it's original history". It's simply a tale placed in his world, minus all his original characters and place names. It has the basic races: human, elf, dwarf, etc. and besides that the whole "in Middle-earth" thing - which is as far as I'm concerned, the only actual Tolkien name they left alone. That's all they adapted in the final version from him - so where's the sacrilege at?

So what, is was originally meant to be Elessar's life. It isn't now, is it? There really isn't much you can complain about.

Claenoic · 08-13-2002, 01:19 PM

This part, though subtle and sad, gave me a laugh.

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Ancanar is an original story.

No, not entirely original, if you don't mind *snort*

Nevertheless, you will NOT see me going to this movie. Not if you payed me a million dollars, no sir.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-13-2002, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Claenoic
This part, though subtle and sad, gave me a laugh.

No, not entirely original, if you don't mind *snort*

Perhaps not entirely original, but close enough, eh?

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Nevertheless, you will NOT see me going to this movie. Not if you payed me a million dollars, no sir.

Pray tell, why not?

Sween · 08-13-2002, 03:56 PM

You see the problem with tolkiens works is he was just so darn good. I mean the guys come up with some great ideas for movies with epic battles and elves and s***.

Why can we not make movies based in middle earth that are not directally related to tolkiens work? Not all world war 2 movies have anything to do with what acctually happened in world war 2 but they make good movies all the time. i for one have an appitete for middle earth i much prefer epic armys armed with swords and bows going into combat against the forces of evils its good stuff.

Rûdhaglarien · 08-14-2002, 01:53 AM

Well, I have nothing really original to say. I don't really like the idea of a Middle-Earth based movie if it's not actually based on one of Tolkien's books. I didn't even like the idea of FotR because I was afraid that they would kill it. (As a matter of fact, the whole Arwen thing was about enough to kill me, but that's another story.) I mean, I was happy when I saw it, but, for me, making a story in Middle-Earth that Tolkien never wrote down just doesn't seem... right... I don't know... I just don't like the idea.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-14-2002, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Rûdhaglarien
Well, I have nothing really original to say. I don't really like the idea of a Middle-Earth based movie if it's not actually based on one of Tolkien's books. I didn't even like the idea of FotR because I was afraid that they would kill it. (As a matter of fact, the whole Arwen thing was about enough to kill me, but that's another story.) I mean, I was happy when I saw it, but, for me, making a story in Middle-Earth that Tolkien never wrote down just doesn't seem... right... I don't know... I just don't like the idea.

I take it you don't like fanfiction?

I don't mind it, I mean, from what I've seen of their site they aren't calling in Middle Earth, but saying that's what it's based on. Something like that; I could be wrong. Anyway.

Rûdhaglarien · 08-14-2002, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf

I take it you don't like fanfiction?

No, no, I do like fanfiction... it's just that, to me, making a movie makes it more... real... you know? Oh well, maybe I'm just odd....

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-14-2002, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by Rûdhaglarien

No, no, I do like fanfiction... it's just that, to me, making a movie makes it more... real... you know? Oh well, maybe I'm just odd....

Really? That's funny, because I can't stand fanfiction on Tolkien's works, (though I don't mind Harry Potter, but that's a different story) but I don't mind the movies. Well, that's not exactly true, but, for example, I have no objection to this particular movie.

Have you looked at the website? I've been spending rather a lot of time there in the past day or so. . .it looks like they at least got the elves more accurately than PJ...lack of pointy ears. As much as I like pointy ears, Tolkien never said they have them. Er.

Rûdhaglarien · 08-14-2002, 02:36 AM

Yes, I have been to the website, didn't stay too long though, I just didn't like the idea, like I said... so, I read a bit, then left.... Maybe I should look into it more.
Hey, never judge a book by its cover, nor a movie by its initial review.

Yes, I AM odd... and proud of it.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 08-14-2002, 02:43 AM

Believe me, you are not very odd

And you should look at the website more; it's very nice

Rûdhaglarien · 08-14-2002, 02:47 AM

I shall do that, yes, I shall.

Radagast · 08-14-2002, 04:57 AM

EDIT.

***Earniel*** · 08-14-2002, 03:27 PM

My first thought was: "Ooooh the dragon." I misread Ancanar for Ancalagon. :s Wishful thinking, probably.

My second thought was: "And now the fultures come."

I'm surprised copyright allows for such a thing. I just hope they keep the middle-earth connection vague enough. We shall see.

Claenoic · 09-13-2002, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf

Pray tell, why not?

I can finally give a good answer to that. Here goes.

I don't like someone messing with the Tolkien Timeline. (That's what the Protectors of the Plot Continuum are there for.) I know it's supposed to be based on ME, but how closely? That just really bothers me. I mean, I lurve fanfiction (at least the right kind), but... Oh I dunno. How BASED ON is this going to get, if you take my meaning.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 09-13-2002, 10:02 PM

It looks like they're being, in many ways, more accurate than PJ

03-24-2002, 02:53 AM	#21
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	If Tolkien was alive today he might have been insulted by Jackson's intreptation of LOTR and hated the movie. This is actually the first I've heard of this movie - so I'd have to look into it. I can't really pass judgement on a film until I see more about it. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-24-2002, 03:27 AM	#22
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I looked fully at their site and I didn't see any mention of Middle Earth. No place names or anything. They only say that it was inspired by LORT. After thinking about it - I was concerned. I couldn't picture someone stumping around in Tolkien's history of Middle Earth. I know that a lot of Tolkien's history is based on his notes that Christopher put together and are in some respects very incomplete, but to have someone else change the history of Middle Earth would have been wrong. I'll still have to reserve my final thoughts on the movie until I see more. I will, however, be keeping my eye out for it. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

08-12-2002, 06:01 PM	#25
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Anyone know when it's supposed to come out? I've never heard of this movie before, but it certainly looks interesting and I want to see it. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

08-13-2002, 03:56 PM	#29
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	You see the problem with tolkiens works is he was just so darn good. I mean the guys come up with some great ideas for movies with epic battles and elves and s***. Why can we not make movies based in middle earth that are not directally related to tolkiens work? Not all world war 2 movies have anything to do with what acctually happened in world war 2 but they make good movies all the time. i for one have an appitete for middle earth i much prefer epic armys armed with swords and bows going into combat against the forces of evils its good stuff. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

08-14-2002, 01:53 AM	#30
Rûdhaglarien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 288	Well, I have nothing really original to say. I don't really like the idea of a Middle-Earth based movie if it's not actually based on one of Tolkien's books. I didn't even like the idea of FotR because I was afraid that they would kill it. (As a matter of fact, the whole Arwen thing was about enough to kill me, but that's another story.) I mean, I was happy when I saw it, but, for me, making a story in Middle-Earth that Tolkien never wrote down just doesn't seem... right... I don't know... I just don't like the idea. __________________ I have a very expensive pen. Last edited by Rûdhaglarien : 08-14-2002 at 01:55 AM.

08-11-2002, 10:30 PM	#23
Evenstar_Elfstone Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 4	WHAT???????????????????????? THEY WERE GOING TO DO A MOVIE ABOUT ARAGORNS LIFE BUT TOLKIEN ENTERPRISE STEPPED IN???????????????? HOW COULD THEY???????? THAT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY RIVALED LOTR!!!!!!!!! I'M SUING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEM F*N SONS OF A BH! DN THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! D*T DT DT DT DT D**T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-14-2002, 02:36 AM	#34
Rûdhaglarien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 288	Yes, I have been to the website, didn't stay too long though, I just didn't like the idea, like I said... so, I read a bit, then left.... Maybe I should look into it more. Hey, never judge a book by its cover, nor a movie by its initial review. Yes, I AM odd... and proud of it. __________________ I have a very expensive pen.

08-14-2002, 02:43 AM	#35
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Believe me, you are not very odd And you should look at the website more; it's very nice __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

08-14-2002, 02:47 AM	#36
Rûdhaglarien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 288	I shall do that, yes, I shall.

08-14-2002, 04:57 AM	#37
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	EDIT. Last edited by Radagast : 08-14-2002 at 05:52 AM.

08-14-2002, 03:27 PM	#38
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	My first thought was: "Ooooh the dragon." I misread Ancanar for Ancalagon. :s Wishful thinking, probably. My second thought was: "And now the fultures come." I'm surprised copyright allows for such a thing. I just hope they keep the middle-earth connection vague enough. We shall see. __________________ We are not things.

09-13-2002, 10:02 PM	#40
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	It looks like they're being, in many ways, more accurate than PJ __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

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