What is Gollum? - Page 2

Ararax · 03-12-2002, 03:08 PM

i maybe wrong about the rand mother part but hobbits in the same family seem to share similer names frodo bilbo aka smegol degol

FrodoFriend · 03-12-2002, 03:14 PM

Hmmm . . . I find the most provocative post on this thread to be Arathorn's question about how to make a gollum sound. I've been trying for ages!! But it still doesn't sound right!

How is "gollum" pronounced anyway - "go-llum" as in the word "go" or "goll-um" as in the word "golly"? I know in the movie they used the second way, but I've always imagined the first way when I read the books.

Kwijibo · 03-12-2002, 03:15 PM

I'm sure it said that they were realated as cousins.

They don't always have similar names if they're related - Samwise and Hamfast were father and son!

Kwijibo · 03-12-2002, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrodoFriend
How is "gollum" pronounced anyway - "go-llum" as in the word "go" or "goll-um" as in the word "golly"? I know in the movie they used the second way, but I've always imagined the first way when I read the books.

I thought it was goll-um as in golly. I think go-llum sounds like golem, and that's a kind of statue thing. I probably wouldn't be able to take him seriously if it was the second way.

But I guess the only one who can really tell how it's said is Prof. T himself. And he's dead. Darn

FrodoFriend · 03-12-2002, 03:31 PM

LOL, a profound statement on death - "Darn." I hope people say that when I die!

03-12-2002, 04:11 PM

"long after,but still very long ago,there lived by the banks of the great river on the edge of Wilderland a clever handed and quiet footed little people. I guess they were of hobbit kind;akin to the fathers of the fathers of the stoors, "

i have no idea if this contributes to the subject but i thought , when in doubt turn to the all wise all knowing and all powerfull books. so there you are, he was akin to the fathers of the fathers of the Stoors. So i guess that kinda makes him an ancestor to hobbits.

Elfmaster XK · 03-12-2002, 04:30 PM

Gollum is cool

I know that's so helpful and you all needed to know.

Comic Book Guy · 03-12-2002, 06:07 PM

I always believed that the noise was pronouced without using the vowels through your throat, making it 'Gllm'.

**crickhollow** · 03-12-2002, 06:23 PM

for those of you consumed by the burning desire to know the correct pronounciation of gollum's name, do not fear, there is hope. there exists somewhere on this planet (probably many places, my local library, for one) a recording of Tolkien reading the riddles chapter of the hobbit. here's a link:

Darn, I don't have the link anymore. but it's chapter five, i think.

Nibs · 03-12-2002, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arathorn
Just curious? How does one make a gollum sound with one's mouth/throat anyway? Is it like a gurgle or a burp?

Do I look like a friggin' Stoor?!? (Don't answer that)

Wayfarer · 03-12-2002, 07:01 PM

I've alwasy been of the opinion that it was a deep throated gurgling sound.

markedel · 03-12-2002, 08:07 PM

What isn't Gollum?

Wayfarer · 03-12-2002, 08:09 PM

A picky eater?

FrodoFriend · 03-12-2002, 08:13 PM

Actually, he did seem rather picky . . . demands raw meat, won't eat any other food group, is disgusted by culinary preparation of any kind.

Wayfarer · 03-12-2002, 08:15 PM

Good point...

A brilliant conversationalist?

**crickhollow** · 03-12-2002, 09:03 PM

if anyone is still curious, here's a link. Not the one I had before; Nytimes online took that page down. This one actually has more poetry etc, than the first one I had.

http://www.tolkien.karlson.ru:8101/a...lk/index.shtml

**crickhollow** · 03-12-2002, 09:06 PM

I think JRRTolkien sounds like Cary Grant.

FrodoFriend · 03-12-2002, 09:09 PM

Ah, so it is "Goll-um" as in "golly". Thanks, crickhollow!

Nenya · 03-12-2002, 09:15 PM

As to the question of how to make a gollum sound in your throat, I always find that a mouthful of water is handy...

Afterall, Gollum does seem to like water

**crickhollow** · 03-12-2002, 09:55 PM

Glad to be of service, my lady." *Crickhollow makes a deep curtsey, tangles her feet together, and falls backwards onto her butt*

Ouch!

03-12-2002, 03:08 PM	#21
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	i maybe wrong about the rand mother part but hobbits in the same family seem to share similer names frodo bilbo aka smegol degol __________________ Woah Deep

03-12-2002, 03:14 PM	#22
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Hmmm . . . I find the most provocative post on this thread to be Arathorn's question about how to make a gollum sound. I've been trying for ages!! But it still doesn't sound right! How is "gollum" pronounced anyway - "go-llum" as in the word "go" or "goll-um" as in the word "golly"? I know in the movie they used the second way, but I've always imagined the first way when I read the books. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-12-2002, 03:15 PM	#23
Kwijibo Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlorien (actually Wales, but let's not talk about that) Posts: 117	I'm sure it said that they were realated as cousins. They don't always have similar names if they're related - Samwise and Hamfast were father and son! __________________ 'So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All you can decide is what to do with the time that is given to you,' - Gandalf the Grey 'I left my body to science, but I'm afraid they've turned it down' - In memory of Graham Chapman 'Rubin sits like Buddah in a 10 foot cell, An innocent man in a living hell,' - From 'Hurricane' by Bob Dylan, the only innocent Hurricane protest song, written stressing the innocence of Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter, a black, middle-weight boxer imprisoned for 19 for a triple murder which he did not commit.

03-12-2002, 03:31 PM	#25
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	LOL, a profound statement on death - "Darn." I hope people say that when I die! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-12-2002, 04:30 PM	#27
Elfmaster XK Possessive Villain Fancier Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: On my ship, riding the waves YARR! Posts: 2,008	Gollum is cool I know that's so helpful and you all needed to know. __________________ My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies, Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die, I can fly - my friends. XK

03-12-2002, 04:11 PM	#26
Jumblefish Guest Posts: n/a	"long after,but still very long ago,there lived by the banks of the great river on the edge of Wilderland a clever handed and quiet footed little people. I guess they were of hobbit kind;akin to the fathers of the fathers of the stoors, " i have no idea if this contributes to the subject but i thought , when in doubt turn to the all wise all knowing and all powerfull books. so there you are, he was akin to the fathers of the fathers of the Stoors. So i guess that kinda makes him an ancestor to hobbits.

03-12-2002, 06:07 PM	#28
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	I always believed that the noise was pronouced without using the vowels through your throat, making it 'Gllm'.

03-12-2002, 06:23 PM	#29
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	for those of you consumed by the burning desire to know the correct pronounciation of gollum's name, do not fear, there is hope. there exists somewhere on this planet (probably many places, my local library, for one) a recording of Tolkien reading the riddles chapter of the hobbit. here's a link: Darn, I don't have the link anymore. but it's chapter five, i think. __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

03-12-2002, 07:01 PM	#31
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I've alwasy been of the opinion that it was a deep throated gurgling sound. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-12-2002, 08:07 PM	#32
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	What isn't Gollum? __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

03-12-2002, 08:09 PM	#33
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	A picky eater? __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-12-2002, 08:13 PM	#34
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Actually, he did seem rather picky . . . demands raw meat, won't eat any other food group, is disgusted by culinary preparation of any kind. __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-12-2002, 08:15 PM	#35
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Good point... A brilliant conversationalist? __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

03-12-2002, 09:03 PM	#36
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	what gollum sounds like if anyone is still curious, here's a link. Not the one I had before; Nytimes online took that page down. This one actually has more poetry etc, than the first one I had. http://www.tolkien.karlson.ru:8101/a...lk/index.shtml __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

03-12-2002, 09:06 PM	#37
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	I think JRRTolkien sounds like Cary Grant. __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

03-12-2002, 09:09 PM	#38
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	Ah, so it is "Goll-um" as in "golly". Thanks, crickhollow! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

03-12-2002, 09:15 PM	#39
Nenya Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 24	As to the question of how to make a gollum sound in your throat, I always find that a mouthful of water is handy... Afterall, Gollum does seem to like water

03-12-2002, 09:55 PM	#40
crickhollow The Buckleberry Fairy/Captain Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington State again (I miss Texas). Posts: 1,345	Glad to be of service, my lady." Crickhollow makes a deep curtsey, tangles her feet together, and falls backwards onto her butt Ouch! __________________ A day will come at last when I Shall take the hidden paths that run West of the Moon, East of the Sun.

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