The two most depressing words... - Page 2

cameronkendrick · 02-22-2002, 09:35 PM

I've also recently started the Silmarillion. It reads kinda like the Bible. I recommend that it be read after LOTR or you'll quickly lose interest in what Tolkien considered his greatest work (which he actually intended to be read first). A must for any true Tolkien fan.

Cam

Renille · 02-22-2002, 09:44 PM

A word of advice for reading the more "advanced" books...buy it if you don't think you'll be able to read the whole thing in a few weeks. I made the mistake of checking the Silmarillion out from the library, and I succeeded in never finding a moment to read it! It took me the better part of a year to get through the thing, because I never had it long enough to finish.I always ended up starting over, because I was too busy to sit down and read for an hour or more, and I would forget my place. So learn from my stupidity and buy the book unless you're alot smarter than me...

athelas · 02-23-2002, 11:30 PM

Sigh...I bought the Silmarillion 2 months ago and I am still reading it. Not that it's extremely boring though, it's just filled with so many tales, characters and places that it makes it hard to absorb it all in a short time, and now im rather busy, so there is not much time to sit for hours reading it. Ive just got through the chapter on the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.

Wow KGamgee!!! You read LotR 12 times in a row??? Amazing!!!

Earenya · 02-24-2002, 03:13 AM

Where does one find a copy of these 'Unfinished Tales'? Lately it seems as though the only Tolkien books I can find are FotR, TTT, TRotK- complete with their movie photos plastered on the cover (not that I didnt love the movie- I went 5 times- I just hate it when a good thing is ruined by too much commercialism).

Btw, The Hobbit is still one of my top 5 favorite books of all time.

***Earniel*** · 02-24-2002, 08:05 AM

I've just finished the Unfinished Tales, well not exactly finished as I'm still flipping through the index..It took me quite a while frankly. Longer than it took me to read the silmarillion, mainly I think because the UT requires more than just a basic knowledge of ME. I think I'll read something differently at the moment. I've run out of Tolkienbooks anyway. Have to do some shopping in the near future.

Renille · 02-24-2002, 12:59 PM

I was able to find UT at Wal-Mart! I had to search a little, but I was downright elated to find it!

I lost it though, so now I have to find it yet again before I can finish it!

So I imagine it's in other,better bookstores too...you just have to look really, really hard!(Fun!

)

cameronkendrick · 02-24-2002, 03:54 PM

There is a book/movie/music store where I presently go to college called Hastings. I don't know if it is wide spread but they have almost every Tolkien book in stock and any that they lack they'll order for you ASAP. I recommend everyone finds a good bookstore to purchase any literature from. Make sure it's a dependable one.

Cam

Menelvagor · 02-24-2002, 06:21 PM

I just bought the last copy of UT Waldenbooks had down here. (that's our only book store of any worth) but I haven't started it yet. I really have to concentrate on it, and I just don't have time right now. Hm, I need some energy, I'm going to go over to the lembas thread now...

Earenya · 02-25-2002, 09:37 AM

Walmart! Im quite impressed, I will have to search more to find this treasure....

cameronkendrick · 02-25-2002, 10:51 AM

Wal-Mart works well to a limited basis. I bought my original FOTR at Wal-Mart but was unable to find TT or ROTK. They usually have the hobbit in stock and at times I have seen UT, but just the first one. Though you may have to go to numerous stores to succeed in the task, you can keep the Tolkien rolling in and for quite a while dodge the "the end." we so fear. If you run out of Tolkien books, go to reading books wrote about Tolkien by other authors. You'll be surprised by the number of such books that are out there. One I recommend is The Tolkien Letters. It is around 200 letters Tolkien wrote as he was writing the Hobbit, LOTR, and most of his other books. A great source for understanding the mind of JRRT.

Cam

Lalaith · 07-14-2003, 03:00 PM

... discovered an old thread ....
Yup, you are right. THE END are really two depressing words.

Radagast The Brown · 07-14-2003, 03:20 PM

Neh, they're not. They could've been, if The Silmarillion wasn't existed, and other books Tolkien wrote... when you finish a series of books you liked, you usually get depressed when you find out there is not continuation. But when there is - you shouldn't get depressed, really, becuase there are more many things to read.

Lalaith · 07-14-2003, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
Neh, they're not. They could've been, if The Silmarillion wasn't existed, and other books Tolkien wrote... when you finish a series of books you liked, you usually get depressed when you find out there is not continuation. But when there is - you shouldn't get depressed, really, becuase there are more many things to read.

But you will never live the excitement again, that you had when you first read LotR.
(Yah, I know, when you read it more often you discover more and more new things)

Radagast The Brown · 07-14-2003, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
But you will never live the excitement again, that you had when you first read LotR.
(Yah, I know, when you read it more often you discover more and more new things)

You will. I actaully enjoed the Sil more then LOTR.

Whe you read LOTR again, after reading the Sil and other books, you understsnd that Tolkien thought about the other books when he was writing LOTR. But no, it's not the same... and it gets pretty boring after a while to read again, and again and again...

Finrod Felagund · 07-15-2003, 08:29 PM

Nononono...read the Silmarillion and then re-read the LotR! It makes it so fascinating!

FoolofaTook · 07-15-2003, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
read the Silmarillion and then re-read the LotR! It makes it so fascinating!

I agree. I just finished reading LotR again(it only took me 2 weeks).....after I read Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, and I enjoyed it even more.

Gæwan · 10-16-2003, 04:30 PM

just an fyi, EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO READ THAT BOOK CRIED THEIR A$$ OFF WHEN IT WAS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the difference between really apreciating it and reading it so u can say you'v read it is this: those who really apreciate will continue to read the remainder of the seires such as Return of the Shadow, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and will go as far to buy a Middle Earth atlas. Others will read the series boks 1-3 and stop. they loved it but aren't willing to go through another six months of speaking in old-english-style speech and head aches from such long wordy sentences. i fully understand, but if i am only thirteen and i'v read seven of Tolkien's works and other adults stopped because it has been too confusing, i find a problem. i am no severely gifted child. IM NORMAL!!! but i suggest you read the rest because once you get into it, ur hooked.

Gæwan · 10-16-2003, 04:31 PM

I fully agree with Finrod Fellagund! Once you read the other histories you see TONS of things in the stories that you never saw before and you can only begin to see how intriate of a web he wove.

Tuor of Gondolin · 10-16-2003, 07:12 PM

And two points:

1) Christopher Lee is said to read LOTR once a year (I believe he wanted to play Gandalf in a movie version in the past)

2) A related Middle Earth book, which seems to have reliable information with good explanatory maps, is "The Atlas Of Middle-Earth, by Karen Wynn Fonstad.

Anadriewen · 10-16-2003, 07:28 PM

I almost cried too. I've read it lots of times and I still almost crie at the end.

My friend who used to say that LOTR was weird acutally watched it. She loved the part in ttt where gollum argues with himself.

02-22-2002, 09:35 PM	#21
cameronkendrick Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Eastern Kentucky University Posts: 16	I've also recently started the Silmarillion. It reads kinda like the Bible. I recommend that it be read after LOTR or you'll quickly lose interest in what Tolkien considered his greatest work (which he actually intended to be read first). A must for any true Tolkien fan. Cam __________________ "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!"

02-22-2002, 09:44 PM	#22
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	A word of advice for reading the more "advanced" books...buy it if you don't think you'll be able to read the whole thing in a few weeks. I made the mistake of checking the Silmarillion out from the library, and I succeeded in never finding a moment to read it! It took me the better part of a year to get through the thing, because I never had it long enough to finish.I always ended up starting over, because I was too busy to sit down and read for an hour or more, and I would forget my place. So learn from my stupidity and buy the book unless you're alot smarter than me... __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

02-23-2002, 11:30 PM	#23
athelas Enting Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Twilight Meres Posts: 87	Sigh...I bought the Silmarillion 2 months ago and I am still reading it. Not that it's extremely boring though, it's just filled with so many tales, characters and places that it makes it hard to absorb it all in a short time, and now im rather busy, so there is not much time to sit for hours reading it. Ive just got through the chapter on the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Wow KGamgee!!! You read LotR 12 times in a row??? Amazing!!! __________________ Farewell sweet earth and nortern sky, for ever blest,since here did lie and here with lissom limbs did run beneath the Moon, beneath the Sun, Lùthien Tinùviel more fair than mortal tongue can tell. Though all to ruin fell the world and were dissolved and backward hurled unmade into old abyss, yet were its making good, for this-- the dusk, the dawn, the earth, the sea-- that Lùthien for a time should be. "I am glad you are here with me. Here at the end of all things, Sam."-Frodo FRODO LIVES!!! (erm...Sam does too, right?)

02-24-2002, 03:13 AM	#24
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	Where does one find a copy of these 'Unfinished Tales'? Lately it seems as though the only Tolkien books I can find are FotR, TTT, TRotK- complete with their movie photos plastered on the cover (not that I didnt love the movie- I went 5 times- I just hate it when a good thing is ruined by too much commercialism). Btw, The Hobbit is still one of my top 5 favorite books of all time. __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

02-24-2002, 12:59 PM	#26
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	I was able to find UT at Wal-Mart! I had to search a little, but I was downright elated to find it! I lost it though, so now I have to find it yet again before I can finish it! So I imagine it's in other,better bookstores too...you just have to look really, really hard!(Fun! ) __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

02-24-2002, 08:05 AM	#25
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I've just finished the Unfinished Tales, well not exactly finished as I'm still flipping through the index..It took me quite a while frankly. Longer than it took me to read the silmarillion, mainly I think because the UT requires more than just a basic knowledge of ME. I think I'll read something differently at the moment. I've run out of Tolkienbooks anyway. Have to do some shopping in the near future.

02-24-2002, 03:54 PM	#27
cameronkendrick Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Eastern Kentucky University Posts: 16	There is a book/movie/music store where I presently go to college called Hastings. I don't know if it is wide spread but they have almost every Tolkien book in stock and any that they lack they'll order for you ASAP. I recommend everyone finds a good bookstore to purchase any literature from. Make sure it's a dependable one. Cam __________________ "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!"

02-24-2002, 06:21 PM	#28
Menelvagor Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: lurking on the edge of conversations Posts: 924	I just bought the last copy of UT Waldenbooks had down here. (that's our only book store of any worth) but I haven't started it yet. I really have to concentrate on it, and I just don't have time right now. Hm, I need some energy, I'm going to go over to the lembas thread now...

02-25-2002, 09:37 AM	#29
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	Walmart! Im quite impressed, I will have to search more to find this treasure.... __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

02-25-2002, 10:51 AM	#30
cameronkendrick Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Eastern Kentucky University Posts: 16	Wal-Mart works well to a limited basis. I bought my original FOTR at Wal-Mart but was unable to find TT or ROTK. They usually have the hobbit in stock and at times I have seen UT, but just the first one. Though you may have to go to numerous stores to succeed in the task, you can keep the Tolkien rolling in and for quite a while dodge the "the end." we so fear. If you run out of Tolkien books, go to reading books wrote about Tolkien by other authors. You'll be surprised by the number of such books that are out there. One I recommend is The Tolkien Letters. It is around 200 letters Tolkien wrote as he was writing the Hobbit, LOTR, and most of his other books. A great source for understanding the mind of JRRT. Cam __________________ "Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun The frumious Bandersnatch!"

07-14-2003, 03:00 PM	#31
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	... discovered an old thread .... Yup, you are right. THE END are really two depressing words. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

07-14-2003, 03:20 PM	#32
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Neh, they're not. They could've been, if The Silmarillion wasn't existed, and other books Tolkien wrote... when you finish a series of books you liked, you usually get depressed when you find out there is not continuation. But when there is - you shouldn't get depressed, really, becuase there are more many things to read. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

07-15-2003, 08:29 PM	#35
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Nononono...read the Silmarillion and then re-read the LotR! It makes it so fascinating! __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

10-16-2003, 04:30 PM	#37
Gæwan Sapling Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 6	fyi just an fyi, EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO READ THAT BOOK CRIED THEIR A$$ OFF WHEN IT WAS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the difference between really apreciating it and reading it so u can say you'v read it is this: those who really apreciate will continue to read the remainder of the seires such as Return of the Shadow, Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and will go as far to buy a Middle Earth atlas. Others will read the series boks 1-3 and stop. they loved it but aren't willing to go through another six months of speaking in old-english-style speech and head aches from such long wordy sentences. i fully understand, but if i am only thirteen and i'v read seven of Tolkien's works and other adults stopped because it has been too confusing, i find a problem. i am no severely gifted child. IM NORMAL!!! but i suggest you read the rest because once you get into it, ur hooked. __________________ namar?*ë nilde, rinquessiel aka: gæwan

10-16-2003, 04:31 PM	#38
Gæwan Sapling Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 6	I fully agree with Finrod Fellagund! Once you read the other histories you see TONS of things in the stories that you never saw before and you can only begin to see how intriate of a web he wove. __________________ namar?*ë nilde, rinquessiel aka: gæwan

10-16-2003, 07:12 PM	#39
Tuor of Gondolin Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,215	And two points: 1) Christopher Lee is said to read LOTR once a year (I believe he wanted to play Gandalf in a movie version in the past) 2) A related Middle Earth book, which seems to have reliable information with good explanatory maps, is "The Atlas Of Middle-Earth, by Karen Wynn Fonstad. __________________ Democrat for Kerry-Edwards! Take Back America Aure entuluva! Last edited by Tuor of Gondolin : 10-16-2003 at 07:33 PM.

10-16-2003, 07:28 PM	#40
Anadriewen Enting Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I'm not telling Posts: 56	I almost cried too. I've read it lots of times and I still almost crie at the end. My friend who used to say that LOTR was weird acutally watched it. She loved the part in ttt where gollum argues with himself. __________________ Sorry for not posting in such a long time. Long story short i forgot my password.

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