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12-23-2001, 08:30 PM
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Elven Warrior
Join Date: Nov 2001
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There is a lot of discussion here about Balrogs & Nazgul. What is the difference between the two? This is one thing I have been confused about for a while. At first I thought they were two different names for the same thing, but now I'm not so sure.
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12-23-2001, 09:15 PM
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Sapling
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Hi,
My first post  A Balrog -"Demon of Might" (or Valarauko) are demons of fire in the service of Morgoth and are different from the Nazgul (also Ulairi) who are the Ring-wraiths, the slaves of the Nine Rings of Men and chief servents of Sauron. Graham |
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12-28-2001, 09:22 PM
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Elven Warrior
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: rural oklahoma
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Weren't the balrogs maiar....I was positive they were maiar..
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"We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm. |
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12-29-2001, 03:14 AM
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Elf Lord
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Yes, they were. Fallen Maiar, anyway; Demons rather than Angels. 'Maiar' is a complementary word, a beautiful one, it means 'the Beautiful'.
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01-17-2002, 01:37 PM
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Interesting allusion to folklore regarding the Nazgul not being able to [or reluctant to, by any rate] cross water. Some legends say that a pursuing evil spirit cannot cross moving water. I don't know whether the presence of a bridge is supposed to counteract that effect.
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