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Old 09-02-2001, 11:16 AM   #21
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This also reminds me of the conversation between Finrod and Andreth in the Athrabeth. Andreth says:"Your Valar do not trouble us with care or instruction. They sent no summons to us." Finrod replies: "Has it never entered your thought Andreth, that out there in ages long past ye may have put yourselves out of their care, and beyond the reach of their help? Or even that ye, the Children of Men were not a matter that they could govern? For ye were too great. Yes, I mean this and do not only flatter your pride, too great. Soul masters of yourselves within Arda, under the hand of the One."
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Old 09-08-2001, 11:07 AM   #22
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no offense to any one who likes celeborn, but he's a bit of a jerk
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Old 09-08-2001, 04:54 PM   #23
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no offense to any one who likes celeborn, but he's a bit of a jerk
Well, he's related to Thingol.
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Old 09-20-2001, 05:24 PM   #24
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really, i didn't know that. (Seriously)
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Old 09-20-2001, 06:03 PM   #25
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He was Thingol's grand nephew. I originally posted a little geneology here, but it doesn't come out well once it's posted.

But Thingol's brother was Elmo. Elmo was the father of Galadhon, the father of Galathil and Celeborn (Galathil was Nimloth's father, Nimloth being the wife of Dior {son of Beren and Lúthien}).
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