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so with all these authors using names like "moria" and others...do you think i'd still get away with using Valandil as a horse's name?
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I don't think one horse name is going to cause much trouble.
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[QUOTE=Eärniel]I suppose that's something to be judged case by case.
But personally I think, that if you're trying to rip off as much source material as you can without being sued, you're approaching orginal fiction the wrong way. no no no im not trying to rip Tolkien off. i was just curious. i have already started making up my own language and its going pretty well actually. i would not rip him off ...its an insult to his memory
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Then I misunderstood you. Apologies.
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I write as a hobby. There is a remote possibility my stuff could get published. The closest to get to using Tolkien elements is to say that the person in the book is a fan of Tolkien. She finds herself in another world that is obviously not Tolkien's, even though her mind tries to make comparisions because this planet had short bearded folk and walking tree creatures. I don't specifically mention Tolkien's creatures, but it is inferred that is what the main character is thinking. It is apparent right away that these beings are not Tolkien Dwarves or Ents.
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Slightly different topic, but...
What are everyone's thoughts on making veiled references to literary characters? For example: if you happen to have a halfling race, and you mention a pair of unusually tall halflings popping up in an inn, as minor characters. Most LOTR readers would recognize Merry and Pippin look-alikes, but you never actually put Merry or Pippin into the story.
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Those can be real fun, if used properly, and sparingly IMO. And I can think of at least one published author who I can readily see using that technique.
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Property rights issues aside, I think there's a very reasonable tendency to gravitate towards Tolkien's languages when it comes to naming people, places and things. Given Tolkien's background, it's no surprise to me that he's the only high fantasy author I can immediately think of whose constructed languages (and nomenclature) make sense, and have a feeling of consistency to them. And you'll notice that when it came to the Rohirrim, he borrowed most of the names and language directly from Old English, which made sense considering the kind of society he was depicting. And George R.R. Martin's names are a very limited departure from Middle English (and its continental counterparts of the period), which makes sense because A Song of Ice and Fire is modelled after the War of the Roses.
Obviously, don't steal. But do acknowledge that even if you go off inventing your own thing, you're following certain principles that were likely inspired by somebody - even if it's as broad as how Tolkien used consonants inflected at the front of the mouth for the Elves to make them seem light and flowing, and lots of hacking/coughing glottal sounds for the Orcs to make them seem, well, dirty. And please, for the love of God, go easy on the apostrophes. Quote:
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