04-30-2003, 05:13 PM | #21 |
'Sober' Mullet Frosh
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The usual answer I heard was that wars raged on the borders of the realms-and Kings led armires in battles, while Queens could not. Thus, no Queens.
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05-02-2003, 07:24 PM | #22 |
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HISory is determined by rulers...if you dare to question aragorns legitimate right to be ruler i dare you to say it to his face rather than hiding (cowardly IMO) behind the anomity of a message board..
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05-02-2003, 07:42 PM | #23 |
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Hee!
What makes you think Aragorn would have a problem with that? I picture him softspokenly replying and making a logical rebuttal. But that's just me.
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05-02-2003, 07:52 PM | #24 |
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tell that to the corsairs...i'm sure aragorn in his many guises battled them with soft speech rather than hard metal!!
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05-09-2003, 12:12 AM | #25 |
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Hmm, I could have sworn that I posted here . . .
Anyway, Aragorn's claim is totally legitimate IMO. Besides all the arguments about his lineage, Gondor's line of succession has in some instances followed influence and power. Just like Earnil was a successful military leader who captured the hearts of the people, so was Aragorn. He had that to his advantage plus the fact that he had no real competition. The people were already behind him because they experienced his leadership firsthand, as was the case with Earnil vs. Arvedui.
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05-10-2003, 03:41 PM | #26 |
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Aragorn's the real King of Gondor. Simple as that. Everyone liked him, too, so that means more people on his side.
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05-10-2003, 10:48 PM | #27 |
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I thought this was a topic about whether or not he was a bastard...
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07-09-2004, 03:30 PM | #29 |
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Does anyone see the 'dumbing down' of responses to this topic after I brought it out of the depths in 2003 compared to the discussion of 2000?
Amazing....
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07-09-2004, 04:10 PM | #30 |
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Sometimes best to let sleeping dogs lie... in the snow. Or is it, 'best let sleeping snowdogs lie'? Or 'best let lying snowdogs sleep'?
Uh-oh... I think I just made it worse.
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I would add to the (excellent) discussion, here, by quoting Ioreth, who said "the hands of the king are the hands of a healer, and so would the rightful king be known." Aragorn proved himself as a healer as well as a captain of war. Faramir touched on this by saying:
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