Time Zones and Places! - Page 2

sun-star · 03-17-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by Valandil
When we were little kids and my older brother knew everything, he told me that Benjamin Franklin invented Daylight Savings Time. Some of you can probably check that much easier than I could... any takers?

According to http://en.wikipedia.org it was firstly seriously suggested by someone called William Willett, from London, in 1907.

I know it's off-topic, but who was Cotton Mather?

***Valandil*** · 03-17-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by sun-star
I know it's off-topic, but who was Cotton Mather?

Interesting... I see Ben Franklin gets mention over it...

Cotton Mather was an early American colonial, settler, writer, philosopher, preacher... I believe he was a generation or two before Franklin... say late 17th cent or so... and I think from a New England state (our states in our NE corner... anything north and east of New York), probably Massachusetts. Don't remember a whole lot about him... but DO remember that Franklin borrowed much from his writings.

sun-star · 03-17-2004, 11:44 AM

Thanks

***Jonathan*** · 03-17-2004, 12:31 PM

Sweden is CET exactly, which is GMT + 1, which is exactly the same as UTC + 1, which corresponds to EST + 6, which also corresponds to PST + 9, meaning it's 9 pm when it's noon in California. We have DST.

[edit] If you're completely ignorant about your timezone, go to The World Clock

Lalaith_Elf · 03-17-2004, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Last Child of Ungoliant
I also am in Greenwich Mean Time
and i hate British Summer Time, with all the clock cjanging
it messes my head up

Yeah, I'm also in Greenwich Mean Time. And I always forget to change my clocks and alarms so in Spring I'm nearly always around an hour late for school.

***RÃan*** · 03-17-2004, 01:57 PM

whew, I think I'll just ignore the DST part - too confusing. I had no idea that it was as common as it is!

JD - I had relatives in Indiana, and it was frustrating that they didn't switch - we would always end up calling them after they were asleep when the time switched over!

Good theory about why the Americans say the month first, Val. I never thought about why we did that. The Brit/European way makes more sense. If someone asks us the date, we always say the month first.

***RÃan*** · 03-17-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by Valandil
I see that Rian already got me (the nerve... attempting to deny me a post in addition to a thread!! ... )

heh heh heh .... *polishes up post count*

Falagar · 03-17-2004, 02:01 PM

I'm GMT+1 I think, same as Jon.

Beruthiel's cat · 03-17-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Valandil
When we were little kids and my older brother knew everything, he told me that Benjamin Franklin invented Daylight Savings Time

Just remember, Val, big sisters always know everything!! (heh heh heh). I still know everything. Just ask my mom. (Do not bother asking the siblings, as they seem to have a distorted view of my omniscience...).

My timezone is Eastern Standard, (upstate New York) soon to be (April 3rd) Eastern Daylight.

I don't know why people have a hard time adjusting. I just change my watch and alarm clock before I go to sleep. I'd probably see things differently if I had to change the clock on my VCR, but it changes automatically. As for losing an hour's sleep, I'm so sleep-deprived already that I don't even notice!

***Jonathan*** · 03-17-2004, 03:48 PM

Hey RÃ*an, just wondered why you sometimes point out in which city a mooter lives in, like

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Falagar : GMT + 1, Oslo, Norway (9 pm)

while for some mooters, you only mention the country, like

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Jonathan : GMT + 1, Sweden (9 pm)

even though both Falagar and I have mentioned which cities we live in under 'location'

***Earniel*** · 03-17-2004, 04:38 PM

I'm on GM+1: Antwerp, Belgium which means, which means....

*tries calculation*

*fails miserably*

*finishes lamely* What he said ....

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan
Sweden is CET exactly, which is GMT + 1, which is exactly the same as UTC + 1, which corresponds to EST + 6, which also corresponds to PST + 9, meaning it's 9 pm when it's noon in California. We have DST.

***Valandil*** · 03-17-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by EÃ¤rniel
I'm on GM+1: Antwerp, Belgium which means, which means....

*tries calculation*

*fails miserably*

*finishes lamely* What he said ....

-->

So you posted at 9:38 pm your time? (on 17-03-04, right? not 03-17-04!

)

***Earniel*** · 03-17-2004, 05:01 PM

Correct.

The 17-03-04 or 03-17-04 always gives me a headache! When you're looking something up on the internet and you get a date like 02-12-03 you can never tell whether you're talking about the 2nd of December or the 12th of February! Very irritating.

jerseydevil · 03-17-2004, 05:57 PM

Rian - why is gollum listed as Vancouver Canada and I'm only listed as New Jersey USA? I want Plainsboro in there, since that is where I live - just like he gets vancouver. Otherwise Gollum should only get British Columbia Canada - just like I am listed as just New Jersey USA. I think that either all towns and cities get eliminated or they go in for everyone that posts their town/city.

Nerdanel · 03-17-2004, 05:59 PM

Me: GMT +2

This was a great thread, 'cause these timezones have sometimes made me wonder.. I'm always here in the middle of the night (almost: 11pm-01am).

jerseydevil · 03-17-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by Valandil
The UK however, because of proximity to and interaction with the continent, may have found it easier to adjust to them.

Also the fact that America leads and doesn't follow.

We do what makes sense to us. If the world wants to use metric or use a certain date format - that is up to them. It doesn't mean our way is wrong.

luinilwen · 03-17-2004, 06:45 PM

Americans always have to do everything their OWN WAY, don't they? bloody stubborn! with your miles and gallons and backwards dates! *grumble* it always used to confuse the heck out of me when i was little because my grandma (Canadian) always insisted on referring to weight in pounds etc... and i used to make fun of her for saying tomAYto instead of tomAHto, so she sang that stupid song... ANYWAY, just a little off topic

jerseydevil · 03-17-2004, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by luinilwen
Americans always have to do everything their OWN WAY, don't they? bloody stubborn! with your miles and gallons and backwards dates! *grumble* it always used to confuse the heck out of me when i was little because my grandma (Canadian) always insisted on referring to weight in pounds etc... and i used to make fun of her for saying tomAYto instead of tomAHto, so she sang that stupid song... ANYWAY, just a little off topic

TomAHto is the stuck up with the nose in the air way of saying it.

Lalaith_Elf · 03-17-2004, 06:52 PM

I don't like the 'month first' way either. It can be very confusing if you're looking at the best before date on food packaging. The amount of time I've eaten food past it's sell-by date. Especially the food that my sister's friend from America had sent over to us - I kept on forgetting that the dates were different.
But then you Americans, and any other country that uses the month first way, will probably say that the European way is wrong. It's just what you've grown up with that seems right.

Hanza · 03-17-2004, 06:54 PM

oh but it does....

i be alonely englander with real bad english

so thats well GMT + 0 and i live in Bedfordshire,England
as i have no state thought id go for county instead. clever huh?

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03-17-2004, 05:01 PM	#33
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Correct. The 17-03-04 or 03-17-04 always gives me a headache! When you're looking something up on the internet and you get a date like 02-12-03 you can never tell whether you're talking about the 2nd of December or the 12th of February! Very irritating. __________________ We are not things.

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03-17-2004, 06:45 PM	#37
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	Americans always have to do everything their OWN WAY, don't they? bloody stubborn! with your miles and gallons and backwards dates! grumble it always used to confuse the heck out of me when i was little because my grandma (Canadian) always insisted on referring to weight in pounds etc... and i used to make fun of her for saying tomAYto instead of tomAHto, so she sang that stupid song... ANYWAY, just a little off topic

03-17-2004, 06:52 PM	#39
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	I don't like the 'month first' way either. It can be very confusing if you're looking at the best before date on food packaging. The amount of time I've eaten food past it's sell-by date. Especially the food that my sister's friend from America had sent over to us - I kept on forgetting that the dates were different. But then you Americans, and any other country that uses the month first way, will probably say that the European way is wrong. It's just what you've grown up with that seems right. __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

03-17-2004, 06:54 PM	#40
Hanza Woolly Jumper Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In my field of paper flowers and candy clouds of lullaby Posts: 1,200	oh but it does.... i be alonely englander with real bad english so thats well GMT + 0 and i live in Bedfordshire,England as i have no state thought id go for county instead. clever huh? __________________ :: there's nothing comforting in change:: Why dont sheep shrink in the rain??