12-22-2003, 02:59 PM | #21 |
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Feanor Vs Fingolfin
Feanor was mightiest of the sons of Finwe. He was arrogant at times but if he fought Fingolfin I think Feanor would win mainly because when he died Tolkien says “Thus ended the mightiest of the Noldor.” Fingolfin is calmer and not as valiant has Feanor. Feanor is described has mightier in body mind and skill. To conclude I say Feanor would win in a one on one with Finglofin but it would be a fight to remember and probably a close one.
PS: I would like to see gothmog fight glaurung and Turin V Fingolfin, I would like to see how a men fights an elf. I’d put my money on fingolfin but Turin could snatch it, if he wasn’t cursed. |
12-22-2003, 03:37 PM | #22 |
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Two fights that would have been awesome as well would be:
Ecthelion of the Fountain vs. Gothmog Lord of Balrogs For those that don't know or remember, Ecthelion was a Lord of Gondolin and Warden of the Great Gate, here is a description of him from Unfinished Tales: "All in silver was he clad, and upon his shining helm there was set a spike of steel pointed with a diamond; and as his esquire too his shield it shimmered as if it were bedewed with drops of rain, that were indeed a thousand studs of crystal." Ecthelion and Gothmog slew each other in their fight. The other fight is the battle of Glorfindel vs. the Balrog, he was with Tuor & Idril and their young son Eärendil. He allowed them to escape by fighting the Balrog...
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Are you nutz mr.manafirogh Turin vs Fingolfin?????????????
Filgolfin would slap him silly.
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12-22-2003, 03:40 PM | #24 |
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How about Turin vs Aragorn? or Hurin vs Durin (the dwarf)
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12-22-2003, 03:57 PM | #25 |
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turin vs aragorn
Aragorn with Narsil would at least give Turin a sratch lllllolllll. the turin would cut him to pieces but dont underestamate an underdog. but we can safely say turin would destroy aragorn. lol
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Manafirogh I think you underestimate Aragorn. No offense to Túrin Turambar, but he was just a regular man, a man of old. Whereas Aragorn was of a richer bloodline, that of Númenor. Granted his bloodline was somewhat diminished, but it was still filled with greatness. Aragorn was referred to as 'the greatest traveller and huntsman in the third age of the world'. No less was he either as a warrior...
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Without having to go into bloodlines & such... I TOTALLY agree with Dunedain. I mean, maybe Turin was the best the First Age had to offer, as far as a human warrior... but he wouldn't stand much of a CHANCE against Aragorn! Aragorn (muh MA-un!) was tough! I don't think we ever see much of it in LotR - he doesn't get the big one-on-one showdowns with equal opponents. But he woulda taken Turin DOWN!
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im gonna have to agree with mr.manafirogh Turin was the son of the greatest warrior of men and he himself was counted among the greats. The men of the first age were different in body and mind to the men of the third age. Even though Aragorn was a great warrior Turins strength would crush him.
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Feanor Vs Fingolfin
Anyway back to Feanor Vs Fingolfin. I know it says Fingolfin was stronger in page 60 but feanor was still the greatest of the noldor and he had the raging flame within him. I aint sure but i think he was of higher structure then fingolfin and allways i thinks is described as a better swords men allthough he didnt get the chance to fight much apart from before he died. It would be pretty close.
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Concerning fiery spirits no one could match Fëanáro. He wore out his mother to the point that she wouldn't live anymore. His body was burned to ashes when he died. Fingolfin wasn't even close.
But whether Fëanáro's spirit would be much of an advantage in a fight with his half-brother, I couldn't say. Bah. I actually loathe the thought of those two fighting each other.
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What about Feanor and Sauron. When sauron has his ring on?
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I'm inclined to give the edge to Fingolfin. The entire relevant quote seems to give the warrior's edge to Fingolfin and the inventiveness edge to Feanor:
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Feanor Vs Fingolfin
Everyone has their own opinion. I would be a close fight maybe 50-50. Im talking about feanor Vs fingolfin if your wondering.
Feanor and Sauron with the ring? That would be good. If sauron is not careless he should win but never the less if Feanor cut his hand of the fight would be over right? I think Sauron should win unless Feanor pulled an Isuldur lol! (struck lucky i mean). Or just cut his hand off and the fight would be over. |
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Sauron aint all that and we all know it. I do think thought he could beat any one in signle combat of the third age if he had the ring. He is a maia after all.
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Sauron is just more than a maiar he was given terrible sorcerous powers by Morgoth and was very powerful. He beat Finrod in single combat which takes some doing let me tell you.
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