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Second, The Two Towers will never pass Titanic, because it does not have the legs. In fact, it is bringing in less money than FotR did at the same time last year. From here and here: Week of 11 Feb '02: FotR daily domestic gross from Monday $295,000 Week of 10 Feb '03: TTT daily domestic gross from Monday $229,338 FotR Tuesday $372,000 TTT Tuesday $259,670 FotR Wednesday $364,000 TTT Wednesday $252,027 FotR Thursday $638,000 TTT Thursday $251,277 FotR Friday $962,000 TTT Friday $820,000 (est.) FotR Saturday $2,046,000 TTT Sunday $1,335,000 (est.) FotR Sunday $1,694,000 TTT Sunday $995,000 (est.) Additionally, as of 9 Feb the US domestic gross for TTT made up 40.8% of the worldwide gross. The final US domestic tally for FotR made up 36.3% of the worldwide takings. Even though TTT has overtaken FotR domestically, I highly doubt that it will beat FotR worldwide, since:
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In any event, if we are just going to group movies together, we end up with this: Of SW, episodes 1, 2, 4, 5, 6 = $3381m + $600m est. for Ep. 3 = $3.98bn. And that's without adjusting for inflation. Therefore, RotK will have to bring in not $1bn but (allowing an additional $100m for then rest of TTT) arround $1.63bn. I think not. Quote:
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i hated titanic....it was such a chic-flic and it sucked
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02-18-2003, 05:07 PM | #28 |
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The only reason TTT hasn't passed FOTR on the worldwide boxoffice is because TTT hasn't been released in Japan yet.
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Now as for this 3 films are 1 film thing: I really dont think you can make the argument that the trilogy should be counted as one big fat movie because thats just not gonna work. i mean you cant have a 10 hour movie. BUT that being said I cant recall ever three movies (or two for that matter) being filmed all at once, placed in the can, then doled out once a year as three different films. Has anything like that ever been done before? I mean keep in mind there are scenes for the Return of the King that were shot before hobbiton was completed. So this is a different animal all together. But its definitely three movies. Now someone already said they havent released it yet in Japan and Im pretty sure the same is true for India as well. Two pretty big markets. So the question is will Two Towers push its way to second place all time by the time its finally done?
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Titanic was OK but after about an hour of water and ice I found myself just wishing the ship would hurry up and sink!
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02-18-2003, 07:56 PM | #31 |
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LOTR is three films BUT what I am saying is that it is ONE single storyline versus the traditional movie trilogy of three separate stories tied together.
The LOTR trilogy is NOT the original Star Wars trilogy. The only similarity is that they both involve three films. Star Wars (it WASN'T A New Hope when it first came out, folks) was a single movie. Lucas claims to have had some big masterplan in mind when he wrote Star Wars but if this were really true, why did he have old Ben tell Luke that Darth Vader killed his father in the original? Why create unnecessary plot logic difficulties for himself? More importantly, each sequel was written, produced, and filmed years apart from each other. The sequels were clearly written to pay homage to, and capture the "feel" of, the original. In the case of LOTR, TTT and ROTK were essentially "in the can" before FOTR ever hit the big screen. |
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I don't really know much about Star Wars, but let's just say, for the sake of argument, that Episodes I through VI are part of one movie. Why can't LotR be the new King?
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Therefore, either way, it loses. Take each film separately, as the box office does, and none of the LotR films will come close to beating Titanic. Combine the films because of the storyline and it will never come close to beating Star Wars. |
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Wonders if any crown previously worn by "Titanic" is THAT worth having....
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Lol, Draken, good thought.
As for 9 hours being too long, it reminded me of a movie my brother told me about: the guy who made it filmed himself sleeping for eight hours. (it was actually produced, not just some home movie.) |
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didnt the owners or the people who wanted to make the movie only wanted to make it one movie
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There is a very real difference between producing sequels to a popular movie versus telling a clearly defined tale in more than one movie. The reason some of you seem to be having difficulty understanding the difference is because it was never really done before LOTR came out. Some of you have been "sequelized" (a form of hypnotism) into believing that anytime a greedy writer/director/producer decides to throw us another sequel to a hit movie, it was "always planned to be a part of the FULL story." yeah, riiiiight. You may buy that line from hollywood sequel-makers, but I don't. Maybe some of them may be pretty good at fitting newly invented story pieces together but its certainly not the same as telling Tolkien's story in three parts. |
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Back to the Future 2&3, I believe were filmed together. BB, Interesting point about Obi-wan's line in SW:ANH. I thought they had an interesting way of glossing over that fact in SW:ESB (Obi-wan told a lie {or if you wish to be charitable, twisted the truth to suit his purposes}) Whether you are correct or GLucas would be hard to prove. I think (My Opinion Here) that more than likely Lucas had a general idea of the entire (StarWars Ep.4-6, 1-3 and 7-9). He thought out Ep. 4-6 best and considered SW:ANH to be his best idea to sell to a studio. If it proved to sell well he would move on to ESB & ROTJ. I think the distance (in years between ep.4-6 and ep.1-3 gives more credence to thinking that Lucas did not completely think out the "entire story" of SW episodes 1-9 before the filming of SW:ANH. -------------------------------------------------- Does it really matter which film makes more $ in deciding which film is better? Different ways can be used to interpret the $$$ and tickets sold. (Inflation, competition the film was against when it came out, How original the film was in idea, etc.) The $$$ made by a film does not (for me anyway) determine whether a film is good or not. Jurassic Park 2 for example. I think the LOTR films are very good. Titanic is a rehashed idea (there were at least 3 previous films & a few documentaries) and it is about 3 hours to boot. For disclosure I only saw about 5 min. of recent Titanic (where they show the computer model of the Titanic sinking, nearthe start of the film), but I have seen the other Titanic films. I also have a bias against Di'Caprio, but I thought he was good in the Man Behind the Iron Mask (the 3 muskuteer based film). I think the SW:4-6 were very good. I am generally disapointed with SW:1&2 and I don't expect much from SW:3 Sincerely, Anthony
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