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04-15-2009, 02:27 PM | #1 | |
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04-16-2009, 12:35 AM | #2 |
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There's this in UT:
Wilt thou learn the lore that was long secret of the Five that came from a far country? Only one returned. Others never again under Men's dominion Middle-earth shall seek until Dagor Dagorath and the Doom cometh. ... |
04-17-2009, 09:08 AM | #3 |
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I think the "master of shapes and hue" probably was at Rhosgobel (or nearby) when they sought him there, but hiding in another guise.
I also think he had a hand in sending the Eagles to the Black Gate for the fall of Sauron.
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04-18-2009, 11:26 AM | #4 | |
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Found something in HOME 7.
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04-18-2009, 12:37 PM | #5 |
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Good find, Gordis. To me, the least worrisome thing is to find "Rhadagast's old home at Rhosgobel deserted." This seems to imply that there was a newer one, but, then, why should the Elven scouts feel called upon to report that the 'old home' was deserted? And, Saruman did not plan Gandalf's execution, but to leave it to Sauron to 'devise a fitting punishment ...for Gandalf the Grey.' Perhaps it was beyond Saruman's powers to kill another of his fellow Istari? But not Sauron's. Gandalf certainly implies the latter.
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As for the 'old home' part - I suspect that the home itself was just old. Radagast had lived there a long time. Interesting what Gordis found... though JRRT could have changed his mind about this, as well as so many other things. I don't think Radagast sent the Eagles to the Black Gate. They had previously come to the Lonely Mountain on their own volition, and they had been clearly keeping an eye on things in February/March of 3019. This watchfulness was more at Gandalf's prompting than Radagast's, I should think.
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How much, I wonder, of Saruman's vulnerability to Wormtongue's blade was due to the fact that Gandalf broke Saruman's staff and cast him from the Order?
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