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the big problem that I have with Melkor is that he was created the greatest of the Ainur but he was not lord of them. That title and job belonged to Manwe. I think that is why he was just plain peeved! ![]() |
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![]() Well the silmarillion did say he wanted to be the master of his peers. I think it said he wanted them to give him fealty, was the term used if I remember correctly.
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I think the biggest problem is that Eru gave Melkor freewill, didn't give him any guidelines on how he wanted it to be used, then got angry when it was used in a way he did not appreciate.
Basically, in creating Melkor, Eru created a being that was too much like himself but was not willing to treat him as such.
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Yea... right... saving by killing.
But just don't tell me that "his purpose is their joy" Eru killed almost all the numenoreans, likely his "favourite" human race, he abandoned all the rest of the Edain who remained in ME during the Second Age to Sauron's darkness. His gift... let us call it "highly questionable." It is not a great gift if 99.9 percent of Men do not see it as such. ![]() I think I have reason enough to say that Eru didn't favour the race of Men. |
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i dont feel sorry for morgoth and sauron, but feanor, i GUESS, has a purpose for his actions due to his fathers death and morgoth stealing the silmarils, but he could of done it in a better way so i have no remorse for the bad guys.
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It seemed that he wanted to help them in order to use them later on, but maybe I'm reading in too much - it's been awhile since I read that!
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