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11-08-2003, 01:23 PM | #22 | |
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Re: Scenes PJ got right
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It was not necessary to have Aragorn surprised by Arwen. In fact, I thing if he had stick to the book there he could have managed easily a good scene, with more tension that the one on film. Neither was it necessary to have Arwen ride with Frodo. What for? Super-elf faces the riders, so? Having Arwen act as Glorfindel and temporarily partially healing Frodo, putting him on a horse, pursued by the black riders and letting him have his moment, despite the apparent impending doom, only to be saved by Gandalf and Elrond, well, that would have work better, much better. As for Bilbo, I have enjoyed much that part.
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11-08-2003, 02:55 PM | #23 |
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Yes, JD really hates the movies... How many times did you go and watch Fellowship, JD?
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I think all the bilbo in shire scenes were all very well done. I think that goes for most of the shire parts as well.
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By the way - with how many times Gandalf had been in Bag End - you would think he would have enough brains to remember that the chandelier was there. I was an Isatari.
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Really, How? Saruman is head of the white council, it is not unreasonable that gandalf looked up too him and agreed with him. As for dottering old fool, I think you've gone off your rocker. But apparently you can not enjoy any good old humor. Since I guess humor was not in the books. |
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Nehheh. A thread about the scenes that PJ supposedly got right and it's turned again in a debate on what he didn't get right.
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I do agree with JD about most things in his first post. Elrond was horible, and Gandalf was an idiot, not becuase of the doors of Moria though, because I can guarantee 99% of the people who watched the movie didn't notice, and if noticed didn't know anyway (I didn't notice ). I think the scene with Boromir and Aragoern was unnecessary. |
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As for that I think that Bilbo's birthday party looked rather well done. It looked cheerful and, well, hobbit-y IMO.
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He did screw it up with Merry and Pippin - the town idiots
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There are all kinds of small and large things that he has gotten right. Here are some of my favs off the top of my head:
Bilbo's party Orthanc How the ring itself is depicted Balrog/Moria/Bridge of KD Argonath/Falls of Rauros Black Riders Casting 90% excellent Looking for King's Foil (up until Arwen arrived) Weathertop (for the most part) Balin's Tomb - just as I imagined it, even though the fight with the troll was different Caradhras Rohan
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I thought most of the extended scenes were good. They added a lot more accuracy to the story. The gift giving scene was very good, except for Sam's gift.
I thought the Moria/Balrog scene was awesome. I loved the Shire/ birthday party scenes. several others too To me the good scenes outway the bad. The reason I like the movies is because in the scenes that are pretty accurate (maybe not 100%, but pretty close) I feel as if I am watching the books, I am seeing Middle Earth. It's awesome. Yes, there are scenes were I am just well... , but I didn't expect them to be perfect. There is no way PJ can make up for some of the damage he has done. But there are scenes that were very well done and I appreciate seeing them. When watching them now I just skip the scenes I don't like and it's all good
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