09-26-2002, 05:43 PM | #21 |
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Yeah... they do get darker. I believe, at one point, she said that she wanted her books to grow with her audience, so that the readers wouldn't get... how should I say... bored...?? I know that I won't... I hope... unless the fifth book never gets here!!
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09-26-2002, 11:38 PM | #22 |
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You must remember when comparing HP to LOTR, Tolkien started out with children's books. He just made his more historical-sounding (is that a word?) as he went on. I mean, look at
'The Hobbit'! It's a kid's book, and if you've ever read it then LOTR, Whoa! does it move quickly! Lanelf.
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10-26-2002, 01:04 AM | #23 |
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I like Harry Potter but I don't really take the series seriously (I might take it Siriusly but that's a different matter)
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10-26-2002, 03:49 PM | #24 |
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IronParrot, good point about children's lit...I mean, C.S. Lewis said in his essay "on writing for children" that the best children's books aren't just for children...He said he read "A Wind in the Willows" in his late twenties, and didn't feel cheated for it; in fact he felt that good children's literature should grow with its reader. Chronicles of Narnia being the handiest example, (not that I'm comparing them with HP) when I first read Narnia at age 8 or 9, I loved the story, but of course did not understand the symbolism. Every time I go back and re-read, I get something new, a deeper understanding. They are the kind of books you can never outgrow, like Baum's Oz, like Montgomery's Anne and Emily series', they withstand repeated explorations by revealing new aspects as you grow. I'm not positive HP will do the same, but I do think that dismissing the genre of children's lit categorically as being shallow as so many scholars seem to do is bad logic.
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I thought the Harry Potter series were okay, but nowhere near LOTR of Narnia or anything like that. You read them once and you were done, if you tried to read them a second time, they were boring. I think that they got way too much press.
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I agree with the Telperion fellow.
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I like Harry Potter. It got me involved in fantasy books. If it weren't for HP I'd still probably still be reading Sweet Valley Twins. Yuck.
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Harry Potter! Yuck! Don't want to offend anyone but finally somewhere I can vent my absolute hatred for those damn books. They're such a cheap mix of everything that's gone before. I read the first got utterly bored and tried the others but failed to get beyond chapter three! I saw a thing about the new movie on the news today and saw something about there being a giant spider in it- does anyone remember Shelob in 2Towers- coincidence? I think not. LOTR is the King of all fantasy fiction and it shall never be bettered. Even Gandalf himself could write a better tale and he's been around for God knows!! Tee hee. Mx
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When they first came out i was like 7 or 8 so they were good, but then I tried rereading them a year later and they were boring. Theres nothing that you miss really the first time that you will see the second time. I tried again last year but still deathly boring.
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I personally have a soft spot for Harry Potter. That got me into fantasy. It IS over hyped, it doesn't mean it's quite bad though. I'm waiting for the 5th book, since Rowling says it'll get darker. More for adults, maybe, by the 7th book. Who knows? And if you've only read the first book and said you hated it, that's a bit like generalizing, isn't it? Each book has a certain style. And once you scratch the surface, there's more underneath. Goodness, perservering is what got me halfway through The Book of Lost Tales, and then it was all downhill...
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dont just read the first book and give up. They get better. I also like the films because i cant remeber everything from the book so it makes it more interesting. I hope they get darker as i grow up so i can follow them. I'm the same age as Daniel Radcliffe (no idea where that came from )
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Hmm, wouldn't say I hated them, but I'll be in no hurry to read them again. Great characters but absolutely rubbish storyline
The 4th book was especially terrible, Rowling seemed to be so confused about the plot herself that she wrote a summory (from the characters POV) as the last chapter............aaaargghh, I hate it when an author does that.......I prefer stories where actions are told as they happen, not when a character "fills in the gaps" to round it off . Maybe in the next books we'll be told less about what the characters are eating (which is all they seem to do until the bad guy turns up) and more about what is actually happening to shape the events of the tale |
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But seriously, folks. Try to judge Harry Potter by its peers, not by time-tested, proven masterpieces. What else has been published in the late 90s/early 2000 that compares with Harry Potter? Nothing. If the world of fantasy literature were a school, I wouldn't say that JKR has received the highest marks in the history of the institution, but she has darn well earned the top marks of her class.
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